What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

"Mayayana" on Sat, 4 Jul 2020 10:21:53 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"mechanic" wrote

| I can understand why you think of it as confusing, but personally I
| think showing it as a folder is a good idea. It lets you open it as you
| would open a folder and use the files within it (mostly) as you would
| the files in a folder.
|
| The zip archive icon is different, compared to a folder icon.

This is all obvious to people in this group. But when
someone opens a ZIP in Windows they see a folder.
They don't see a green folder with a warning, or any
other indicator that this is not a real folder.

I find it confusing for myself. It's very rare that I
might want one file out of a ZIP. Usually I'll want to
unpack it.

Or I zipped those files for a reason. Having them show up in
every search was not one of them.

--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Mayayana" on Sat, 4 Jul 2020 10:21:53 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"mechanic" wrote

| I can understand why you think of it as confusing, but personally I
| think showing it as a folder is a good idea. It lets you open it as you
| would open a folder and use the files within it (mostly) as you would
| the files in a folder.
|
| The zip archive icon is different, compared to a folder icon.

This is all obvious to people in this group. But when
someone opens a ZIP in Windows they see a folder.
They don't see a green folder with a warning, or any
other indicator that this is not a real folder.

I find it confusing for myself. It's very rare that I
might want one file out of a ZIP. Usually I'll want to
unpack it.

Or I zipped those files for a reason. Having them show up in
every search was not one of them.

In Windows XP:

regsvr32 /u zipfldr.dll
regsvr32 /u cabview.dll

and that's supposed to end "seeing inside stuff".

But note that WinXP also seems to be able to re-register
those, so their "effects" come back. I haven't been able
to figure out what triggers that.

Paul

On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:24:02 -0400, Paul
wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Mayayana" on Sat, 4 Jul 2020 10:21:53 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"mechanic" wrote

| I can understand why you think of it as confusing, but personally I
| think showing it as a folder is a good idea. It lets you open it as you
| would open a folder and use the files within it (mostly) as you would
| the files in a folder.
|
| The zip archive icon is different, compared to a folder icon.

This is all obvious to people in this group. But when
someone opens a ZIP in Windows they see a folder.
They don't see a green folder with a warning, or any
other indicator that this is not a real folder.

I find it confusing for myself. It's very rare that I
might want one file out of a ZIP. Usually I'll want to
unpack it.

Or I zipped those files for a reason. Having them show up in
every search was not one of them.

In Windows XP:

regsvr32 /u zipfldr.dll
regsvr32 /u cabview.dll

and that's supposed to end "seeing inside stuff".

But note that WinXP also seems to be able to re-register
those, so their "effects" come back. I haven't been able
to figure out what triggers that.

From my notes:

no_zip_searchXP.reg
.................................................. ........

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{E88DCCE 0-B7B3-11d1-A9F0-00AA0060FA31}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=dword:00000000
"UseDropHandler"=""
.................................................. ........
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

"Shadow" wrote

| and that's supposed to end "seeing inside stuff".
|
| But note that WinXP also seems to be able to re-register
| those, so their "effects" come back. I haven't been able
| to figure out what triggers that.
|
| From my notes:
|
| no_zip_searchXP.reg
| .................................................. .......
|
| Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
|
|
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{E88DCCE 0-B7B3-11d1-A9F0-00AA0060FA31}\ShellFolder]
| "Attributes"=dword:00000000
| "UseDropHandler"=""

Seems unlikely. A drop handler is just something that
deals with a file dropped onto something. Part of the
reason I don't use Windows search is because it doesn't
see inside CABS. Agent Ransack does. It doesn't
decompress, but both ZIP and CAB contain file names
in plain text. So it's a great way to find which system
CAB abc.sys is in when you're trying to install something
and Windows can't find needed files. Why anyone would
want to block looking for filenames inside CABs and ZIPs
is beyond me. Do you work for the CIA? A shady tax
accountant?

| .................................................. .......
| []'s
| --
| Don't be evil - Google 2004
| We have a new policy - Google 2012

Shadow on Sat, 04 Jul 2020 18:32:35 -0300 typed in
alt.windows7.general the following:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:24:02 -0400, Paul
wrote:

pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Mayayana" on Sat, 4 Jul 2020 10:21:53 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"mechanic" wrote

| I can understand why you think of it as confusing, but personally I
| think showing it as a folder is a good idea. It lets you open it as you
| would open a folder and use the files within it (mostly) as you would
| the files in a folder.
|
| The zip archive icon is different, compared to a folder icon.

This is all obvious to people in this group. But when
someone opens a ZIP in Windows they see a folder.
They don't see a green folder with a warning, or any
other indicator that this is not a real folder.

I find it confusing for myself. It's very rare that I
might want one file out of a ZIP. Usually I'll want to
unpack it.

Or I zipped those files for a reason. Having them show up in
every search was not one of them.

In Windows XP:

regsvr32 /u zipfldr.dll
regsvr32 /u cabview.dll

and that's supposed to end "seeing inside stuff".

But note that WinXP also seems to be able to re-register
those, so their "effects" come back. I haven't been able
to figure out what triggers that.

From my notes:

no_zip_searchXP.reg
................................................. ........

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{E88DCCE 0-B7B3-11d1-A9F0-00AA0060FA31}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=dword:00000000
"UseDropHandler"=""
................................................. ........
[]'s
I have a atch file to do that.

As to why shut that off? Mostly, I don't need it, and so it gets
in my way. Especially when I'm looking for a file which starts with
MONT and don't want the files with Month Altmont or the string "mont"
some where in the file / tags / random add-ons.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 20:09:47 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:04 +1000, Lucifer
wrote:

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

My w/7 machines have no problem with that.

I have an Acer One Aspire running Windows 7.
Please tell me how you did it.

On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 10:06:09 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:04 +1000, Lucifer
wrote:

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

Oh, Gawd! FINALLY!

I have sweat blood trying to get Windows 7 to stream audio
over bluetooth. Windows 10 works out of the box even with
those absurdly small USB dongles.

On 3 Jul 2020 10:19:29 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:

Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.

Nope that's not a difference between Windows 10 and Windows XP/7.

I am not the only person that has failed with Windows 7.

You *could* stream audio over Bluetooth on Windows XP and ever since,
i.e. also on Windows 7. It only needed the proper driver, profiles,
etc., but those were (and are) supplied with/for the Bluetooth adapter
(probably a USB 'dongle' on XP).

I have an Acer One Aspire running Windows 7.
Please tell me how you did it.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 19:51:11, Lucifer
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 20:09:47 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:04 +1000, Lucifer
wrote:

You can stream audio over bluetooth.

My w/7 machines have no problem with that.

I have an Acer One Aspire running Windows 7.
Please tell me how you did it.

There has to be Bluetooth hardware present in the computer, of course;
does your Acer One Aspire have it? (If so, is it showing OK in Device
Manager?)
--
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No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank
you.

Lucifer wrote:
On 3 Jul 2020 10:19:29 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:

Lucifer wrote:
You can stream audio over bluetooth.

Nope that's not a difference between Windows 10 and Windows XP/7.

I am not the only person that has failed with Windows 7.

You *could* stream audio over Bluetooth on Windows XP and ever since,
i.e. also on Windows 7. It only needed the proper driver, profiles,
etc., but those were (and are) supplied with/for the Bluetooth adapter
(probably a USB 'dongle' on XP).

I have an Acer One Aspire running Windows 7.
Please tell me how you did it.

I never had 7, but did it on XP, Vista and now 8.1. As I wrote, you
have to get the driver, profiles, etc. for *your* Bluetooth adapter/
dongle. So if the standard Microsoft supplied drivers/software does not
work, then determine (if needed with Device Manager) which adapter/
dongle you have and then go the website of the manufacturer.

FWIW, for Vista (i.e. earlier than 7) the standard Microsoft supplied
drivers/software *did* work for *my* dongle (TRUST 18187 Bluetooth 4.0
adapter, CSR (Cambridge Silicon Radio) chipset). YMMV/YMWV.