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Old May 17th 12, 06:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tecknomage[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools


Normally I run chkdsk from Command Prompt.

Example: chkdsk d: /f /v



Is there a way to have the chkdsk-run (Explorer, right-click drive,
[Tools][Error-checking]) run with the /v option?

I assume there must be a Registry entry to run chkdsk from [Tools].

So can this be done?



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Old May 18th 12, 04:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On 17/05/2012 1:20 PM, Tecknomage wrote:

Normally I run chkdsk from Command Prompt.

Example: chkdsk d: /f /v



Is there a way to have the chkdsk-run (Explorer, right-click drive,
[Tools][Error-checking]) run with the /v option?

I assume there must be a Registry entry to run chkdsk from [Tools].

So can this be done?


If you're looking to see the application message during the run, then
you can find them located in the Event Logs. They are located in
Application Log, source Wininit, Event ID 1001.

Best part of it is that you don't have sit there and watch it as it
goes, you can just come back to it and look at its output when its done,
and you won't have to worry about messages scrolling off.

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 18th 12, 04:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tecknomage[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Thu, 17 May 2012 23:30:27 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 17/05/2012 1:20 PM, Tecknomage wrote:

Normally I run chkdsk from Command Prompt.

Example: chkdsk d: /f /v



Is there a way to have the chkdsk-run (Explorer, right-click drive,
[Tools][Error-checking]) run with the /v option?

I assume there must be a Registry entry to run chkdsk from [Tools].

So can this be done?


If you're looking to see the application message during the run, then
you can find them located in the Event Logs. They are located in
Application Log, source Wininit, Event ID 1001.

Best part of it is that you don't have sit there and watch it as it
goes, you can just come back to it and look at its output when its done,
and you won't have to worry about messages scrolling off.

Yousuf Khan



You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.


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Old May 18th 12, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.


It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.


It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 21st 12, 03:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tecknomage[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.


It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.


It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan



My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.

Thanks


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Old May 22nd 12, 07:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.


It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.


It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan



My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.


No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan
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Old May 22nd 12, 01:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tecknomage[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Tue, 22 May 2012 02:58:08 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.

It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan



My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.


No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan



SIDE COMMENT: This is typical Microdunce, have the screen display
different from the Event Log. They SHOULD be the same.



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Old May 22nd 12, 02:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:57:09 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 02:58:08 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.

It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan


My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.


No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan



SIDE COMMENT: This is typical Microdunce, have the screen display
different from the Event Log. They SHOULD be the same.


No, the event log should always be verbose, even if the screen output
has been limited. That way, the info is always available in the log
without having to set the parameter.

Makes perfect sense to me, anyway.

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Old May 23rd 12, 02:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tecknomage[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:51:49 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:57:09 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 02:58:08 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.

It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan


My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.

No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan



SIDE COMMENT: This is typical Microdunce, have the screen display
different from the Event Log. They SHOULD be the same.


No, the event log should always be verbose, even if the screen output
has been limited. That way, the info is always available in the log
without having to set the parameter.

Makes perfect sense to me, anyway.


I agree with the Event Log entry, but IMHO the screen output NOT being
the same does NOT make sense. The problem with that is it is hiding
info from the every-day user who does not know about Event Logs.

Users need to know all the results when they run any test.


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Old May 23rd 12, 04:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:07:48 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:51:49 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:57:09 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 02:58:08 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.

It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan


My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.

No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan


SIDE COMMENT: This is typical Microdunce, have the screen display
different from the Event Log. They SHOULD be the same.


No, the event log should always be verbose, even if the screen output
has been limited. That way, the info is always available in the log
without having to set the parameter.

Makes perfect sense to me, anyway.


I agree with the Event Log entry, but IMHO the screen output NOT being
the same does NOT make sense. The problem with that is it is hiding
info from the every-day user who does not know about Event Logs.

Users need to know all the results when they run any test.


In my experience, when dealing with the average computer user the
verbose content does two things: First, it obscures important
information, and second, causes them to panic.

In my mind, MS got this one right. They get plenty of other things
wrong, but not this one. YMMV

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"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
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Old May 24th 12, 02:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Tecknomage[_2_]
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Wed, 23 May 2012 11:32:44 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:07:48 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:51:49 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:57:09 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 02:58:08 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.

It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan


My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.

No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan


SIDE COMMENT: This is typical Microdunce, have the screen display
different from the Event Log. They SHOULD be the same.

No, the event log should always be verbose, even if the screen output
has been limited. That way, the info is always available in the log
without having to set the parameter.

Makes perfect sense to me, anyway.


I agree with the Event Log entry, but IMHO the screen output NOT being
the same does NOT make sense. The problem with that is it is hiding
info from the every-day user who does not know about Event Logs.

Users need to know all the results when they run any test.


In my experience, when dealing with the average computer user the
verbose content does two things: First, it obscures important
information, and second, causes them to panic.

In my mind, MS got this one right. They get plenty of other things
wrong, but not this one. YMMV



You seem to be one of the dumb-down people. Dumb things down to the
lowest denominator rather than educate people up.

My philosophy is to always educate people up, especially in
technology. So they 'panic,' you just inform them why they shouldn't.
And in the case of chkdsk verbose output, only users curious about the
info would have a question. Most would not even note the difference
even if they looked at the screen display.

When I help people with their computer problems I have them sit with
me and I talk about what I am doing and why, as I do it. They may not
really care, but at least they've heard and may learn something.

Note, I've been doing this since the mid 90's. Even though I'm
retired, I still do this for friends.



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Old May 24th 12, 04:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default MVPs - chkdsk Run from Explorer Tools

On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:53:54 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Wed, 23 May 2012 11:32:44 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:07:48 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 09:51:49 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Tue, 22 May 2012 05:57:09 -0700, "Tecknomage"
wrote in article
...

On Tue, 22 May 2012 02:58:08 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 21/05/2012 10:06 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2012 13:34:25 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 18/05/2012 11:32 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
You don't understand.

I want to see the /v info *during the reboot-run*, NOT have to use
Event Logs. That is, exactly how I see it using Command Prompt run.

It'll record the chkdsk output into Event logs even for reboot runs.

Also, IF I remember correctly, the /v info is not in the Event Logs
when run from Explorer [Tools]. I will have to check this later.

It looks like verbose out to me in the event logs.

Yousuf Khan


My apologies, you are correct. The screen does not show verbose, but
the Event Log entry does.

As old as I am I can still learn.

No problem, glad to help.

Yousuf Khan


SIDE COMMENT: This is typical Microdunce, have the screen display
different from the Event Log. They SHOULD be the same.

No, the event log should always be verbose, even if the screen output
has been limited. That way, the info is always available in the log
without having to set the parameter.

Makes perfect sense to me, anyway.

I agree with the Event Log entry, but IMHO the screen output NOT being
the same does NOT make sense. The problem with that is it is hiding
info from the every-day user who does not know about Event Logs.

Users need to know all the results when they run any test.


In my experience, when dealing with the average computer user the
verbose content does two things: First, it obscures important
information, and second, causes them to panic.

In my mind, MS got this one right. They get plenty of other things
wrong, but not this one. YMMV



You seem to be one of the dumb-down people. Dumb things down to the
lowest denominator rather than educate people up.


Nope, not really, but if folks don't want to educate themselves there
isn't much I can (or am willing to) do.


My philosophy is to always educate people up, especially in
technology. So they 'panic,' you just inform them why they shouldn't.


After the 100th time, it gets old. If they want to learn, I'll assist
where I can. If not, I'm happy for those moments where the information
provided is sufficient to let you know there is or isn't a problem.
Even happier when the full detail is provided in a more permanent way
in logs, etc., without having to specify that I want it.

And in the case of chkdsk verbose output, only users curious about the
info would have a question. Most would not even note the difference
even if they looked at the screen display.

When I help people with their computer problems I have them sit with
me and I talk about what I am doing and why, as I do it. They may not
really care, but at least they've heard and may learn something.

Note, I've been doing this since the mid 90's. Even though I'm
retired, I still do this for friends.


So, you are a relative newcomer ;-). I've been doing it even longer,
and I've gotten to the place where I offer to teach, but am not
bothered if they don't want to learn. Everyone has their specialties -
although I take flights to vacation or for work, I can't fly an
airplane and have no desire to learn, but that doesn't make me less
intelligent than my relatives who can. Similarly, they are computer
users (just barely) who have no desire to learn the internals and
details.

As always, to each his own.

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years in a row.
 




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