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"Keith Nuttle" wrote
| There are other temp directories you can clean | | c:/windows/Temp | Also, C:\TEMP should be checked. Note, however, that this was originally posted only in Win7. Good Guy cross-posted to Win10, apparently so that he could spread his nastiness further with less effort. It could be that some things don't apply to both 7 and 10. (I have SoftwareDistribution on Win7, but there's only 130 MB in there. I also have it on XP but that one is less than 2 MB and seems to be unused.) |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Mayayana writes: [] '---------- begin script ----------- '-- Note: Watch out for wordwrap. This script is '-- written to avoid long lines, so it should be OK. Dim FSO, s1, s2, TS, sDriv, APath(), ASize(), iCnt, iTotal, i2 s1 = "Enter path of folder to list sizes of all subfolders." s1 = s1 & " For a drive enter X:\, where X is the drive letter." sDriv = InputBox(s1, "List Folder Sizes") [rest snipped] Strange: it has come out OK in the above quote. But when I read the original post, I see: '---------- begin script ----------- '-- Note: Watch out for wordwrap. This script is '-- written to avoid long lines, so it should be OK. Dim FSO, s1, s2, TS, sDriv, APath(), ASize(), iCnt, iTotal, i2 s1 = "Enter path of folder to list sizes of all subfolders." s1 = s1 & " For a drive enter X:\, where X is the drive letter." sDriv = InputBox(s1, "List Folder Sizes") [rest snipped] In other words, the newlines after "is" and before the second "s1" and before "sDriv" have been swallowed somewhere (only to reappear when I quote!). Take the MID from the message and look it up on HowardKnight ? http://al.howardknight.net/ http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E Paul |
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In message , Mayayana
writes: [] This is the same issue you were talking about last week, isn't it? I wonder if maybe Turnpike is just disallowing returns in email as being non- compliant, stripping them out, then formatting the lines to 76 characters or less. Odder and odder! The above paragraph, when I read it in the original post, has _longer_ lines - it wraps after "I", "being", and "76". But it _does_ wrap there - the lines don't continue off the right edge, as they do in a few posts. It's a bizarre behavior that ignores the rules of English composition, assuming that all written text in an email should be a single stream. It certainly is very odd. The other line breaks in your code remain - for example: --- iCnt = iCnt - 1 ReDim Preserve ASize(iCnt) ReDim Preserve APath(iCnt) QuickSort ASize, APath, 0, 0 For i2 = iCnt to 0 step -1 s2 = s2 & APath(i2) & " -- " & CStr(ASize(i2)) & " MB" & vbCrLf Next --- I'd thought maybe it was only long lines, but the s2= line above is long. How ironic that a Brit would be the one using such software. It was written by Brits! I think mainly Richard Clayton of Locomotive Software. (I _think_ they also wrote the word processor - was it called Locoscript? - for the original Amstrad word processor. History!) I try to structure scripts I post to not be corruptbile by email software, by making the lines It is appreciated. short. In your case that doesn't seem to be possible. Does seem odd! I can usually figure out where things have gone wrong - I speak general code, though not this particular language. In case anyone can't get a usable script out of my post, I also have a copy in my "handy desktop scripts" download: https://www.jsware.net/jsware/scrfiles.php5#desk Thanks, noted. By sorting folder paths in terms of folder size it's easy to quickly see where the bulk is. Sometimes I like WinDirStat, and Scanner, for those. But people vary a lot: I remember saying that in a similar discussion, and one of the participants hated them! it's surprising. One friend had several GBs of email in Thunderbird, due to friends sending big pictures that she didn't delete. In another case, a blind friend Yes, I _never_ keep attachments in emails; if they are something I want to keep, I save (export, whatever) them, and remove them from the email; Turnpike can do this, as can Outlook, and I think Thunderbird and Outlook Express - while still keeping any _text_ in the email if wanted. was using special software to download audio books. I had specifically set it up to save the files on a data drive, but the software was poorly designed. It still saved a 2nd copy in the program's app data folder, anyway -- quickly filling C drive, so that the folder had to be purged periodically. I have found software for the blind varies considerably in quality, from very good to poor. As with most other types I suppose. 3 -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf But this can only happen if we replace the urge to blame with the urge to learn so that it is safe for staff to admit errors and raise concerns without the fear of being punished. - Former MI5 boss Eliza Manningham-Buller, RT 2016/5/7-13 |
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 10:19:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space. I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. Hi Keith, I'm curious to hear why it took hours to delete those files, when I think it should have taken less than a minute. Do you have any thoughts on what was going on? |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
| Odder and odder! The above paragraph, when I read it in the original | post, has _longer_ lines - it wraps after "I", "being", and "76". But it | _does_ wrap there - the lines don't continue off the right edge, as they | do in a few posts. | | It's a bizarre behavior that ignores the rules of | English composition, assuming that all written text | in an email should be a single stream. | | It certainly is very odd. Your description above fits the proposal that it's dropping all returns and then splitting them at 76. The other line breaks in your code remain - | for example: | --- | iCnt = iCnt - 1 | ReDim Preserve ASize(iCnt) | ReDim Preserve APath(iCnt) | | QuickSort ASize, APath, 0, 0 | | For i2 = iCnt to 0 step -1 | s2 = s2 & APath(i2) & " -- " & CStr(ASize(i2)) & " MB" & vbCrLf | Next | --- | I'd thought maybe it was only long lines, but the s2= line above is | long. | But it's under 70 characters. Without the prepended spaces I see 65 characters. The question, then, is why it's leaving returns on some short lines. It's as though it recognizes code vs prose. | How ironic that a Brit would be the one using | such software. | | It was written by Brits! Can't trust *anyone* these days. | I have found software for the blind varies considerably in quality, from | very good to poor. As with most other types I suppose. I was trying to remember what this was that stored redundant file copies despite the setting chosen. It might be the specific software for the Learning Ally website, but I'm not certain. I do remember that their whole operation was poorly designed. It wasn't even possible to choose an item in the webpage dropdown without a mouse, at least at one point! |
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freface wrote in newsho1la$1h34$1
@adenine.netfront.net: Win 7 Pro. All updates. C:\ is full. Deleted obvious stuff but only got 200MB freed. Googled and got confused. Please a little spoon feeding would help me. WinSxS has 13G in the folder. I do not see any other large file areas taking up space. TreeSizeFree being used to look at C: Suggestions please. I found that Resetting your restore point back to Zero free up a lot of Gigs for me. |
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 17:03:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Mayayana writes: [] By sorting folder paths in terms of folder size it's easy to quickly see where the bulk is. Sometimes I like WinDirStat, and Scanner, for those. But people vary a lot: I remember saying that in a similar discussion, and one of the participants hated them! That was possibly me. :-) When I tried WinDirStat, I hated it and found it to be utterly useless except as a trinket. Instead, when I tried Treesize Free, I instantly loved it. Seeing how well it worked, I hurriedly tried Treesize Pro, which I didn't like at all. We're each a little different. What one loves, another hates. it's surprising. One friend had several GBs of email in Thunderbird, due to friends sending big pictures that she didn't delete. In another case, a blind friend Yes, I _never_ keep attachments in emails; if they are something I want to keep, I save (export, whatever) them, and remove them from the email; Turnpike can do this, as can Outlook, and I think Thunderbird and Outlook Express - while still keeping any _text_ in the email if wanted. We're different here, as well. I sometimes _save_ attachments so that they're easier to access and work on, but I _never_ delete an attachment from the email which carried it. -- Char Jackson |
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freface wrote in newsho1la$1h34$1 @adenine.netfront.net: Win 7 Pro. All updates. C:\ is full. Deleted obvious stuff but only got 200MB freed. Googled and got confused. Please a little spoon feeding would help me. WinSxS has 13G in the folder. I do not see any other large file areas taking up space. TreeSizeFree being used to look at C: Suggestions please. I found that Resetting your restore point back to Zero free up a lot of Gigs for me. Yes, but while you're in System control panel and the System Protection area, you should adjust the slider for a smaller maximum space. That prevents "abuse" by the System Protection feature. For example, I might set it to 3GB, rather than 300GB. Some backup programs use VSS Shadows, and those could be lurking in a similar storage area. They're in C:\System Volume Information. If you're using fancy backup software, you should check whether there are any "space" settings for when the tool uses space on your disk drive. I thought the default on some of these, was around 30-35%. The worst part of Windows, is there is really *no* utility that shows all allocations. I would have to conclude from this behavior, that when you use a backup program (even Macrium), it doesn't actually copy everything, and there will be a few items that don't get backed up. I used to think nfi.exe (Microsoft) could see everything, but it's missing at least four files. Viewing NTFS from Linux can be educational, but you also have to be careful. I had a Windows 7 C: trashed while doing that. I was looking in System Volume Information and specifically at VSS Shadow Files (which aren't "normal" files). So if you do go on a serious hunt for stuff to remove, you should have a *backup* in hand, before you begin. I tried to reproduce the failure case a couple of months ago, and couldn't succeed in getting it to happen a second time. But for me, one incident is enough. Since I'd made a backup only two hours before the incident, I was well prepared, but... purely by accident. I didn't actually do the backup because I was expecting trouble. I did the backup because it had been several months since the last one. It's possible that some leftovers from the backup operation, actually primed the failure case to happen. Viewing NTFS from Linux now, also suffers from problems caused by Windows 10. Windows 10 creates partitions with damaged $MFTMIRR, which prevents Linux from mounting. Windows 7 CHKDSK can fix it. Windows 10 also uses a new compression reparse point type, and Linux gets "I/O error" or similar if it hits one of those. Windows 10 makes a Swiss Cheese out of the Linux ability to help. And when stuff like this happens, it's not an accident. (Windows 7 created partitions, are still perfectly usable. And Windows 7 can prepare a GPT disk for you too.) Paul |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 10:19:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space. I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. Hi Keith, I'm curious to hear why it took hours to delete those files, when I think it should have taken less than a minute. Do you have any thoughts on what was going on? I've experienced this (Win10 SoftwareDistribution) :-) I think there were more than 8GB of tiny tiny files, all unpacked in there via some crazy-ass "delta" Upgrade procedure. I didn't care to count them, because the deletion operation was already underway. But it took... forever to finish. Poor I/O performance on Windows 10, can be chalked up to Windows Defender, which can interfere with the speed of just about any operation. Not all SoftwareDistribution runs are "self-cleaning". Windows 10 seems to "clean" if the first Upgrade install attempt fails. There might be a cleaning step thrown in. But there have been cases, where users are obviously suffering from an issue where whatever cleaning is supposed to happen, no longer happens, and that folder gets bigger and bigger. That wasn't my case. Mine was a "single case of indigestion", and did not repeat. Paul |
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So hibernation is set to NEVER for both AC and Battery So how do I delete hiberfil.sys ??? Mayayana wrote: "freface" wrote .... Another notable way to save a lot of space: Disable hibernation. Disable swap file or put one only on a non-C drive. Having done those things, hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys can be deleted from C drive. |
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On 7/7/2018 12:54 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 10:19:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space. I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. Hi Keith, I'm curious to hear why it took hours to delete those files, when I think it should have taken less than a minute. Do you have any thoughts on what was going on? Yes! First there were many folders, sub folders and files. I have selected all files in a folder and it has shown 6000 files area being deleted. Second it was on my tablet which is limited memory and a slow processor. I found an article mentioned earlier in this thread, and was shocked a the number of files I found in this folder. When you are deleting that many files even on a faster computer it takes some time. The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse operation Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen. Even if you do a select all, and delete; with thousands of files you never know if the system is hung up or is working. (I can be a bit impatient.) This is how I learned about setting the immediate delete parameter in the Recycle bin. -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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On 07/07/2018 15:19, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space. I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. But you forgot to tell the OP, a person of low intelligence, that by deleting the files in SoftwareDistribution folder he would lose the history of his updates and as this is very important to him he will start swearing and cursing at you. As to exact number of bytes, it shouldn't be a lot if the machine managed to update it without any problems. The update program should be able to clean up the leftovers after updating the system. The only time you need to delete the files is when the update is corrupted and so all the downloaded files remain in that folder. Don't you think so Mr Nuttle? Can you give us some more info about this. That paedophile by the name of Arlen Holder is archiving this on his "tribal whatever" website and now he's been outed as paedophile. This will be on permanent record for people to search him out. England have reached the Semi-Final of the World Cup and now they have a very good chance of winning it unless the Russians sabotage their food to prevent them doing so. Russians have piled up "Nerve Agents" to kill British Citizens as you may know this is well documented from your background working for them as their Chemical Engineer. /--- This email has been checked for viruses by Windows Defender software. //https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/ -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On 07/07/2018 1:25 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 7/7/2018 12:54 PM, Char Jackson wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 10:19:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space.Â*Â* I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. Hi Keith, I'm curious to hear why it took hours to delete those files, when I think it should have taken less than a minute. Do you have any thoughts on what was going on? Yes! First there were many folders, sub folders and files. I have selected all files in a folder and it has shown 6000 files area being deleted. Second it was on my tablet which is limited memory and a slow processor. I found an article mentioned earlier in this thread, and was shocked a the number of files I found in this folder.Â* When you are deleting that many files even on a faster computer it takes some time. The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse operation Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen. Even if you do a select all, and delete; with thousands of files you never know if the system is hung up or is working.Â* (I can be a bit impatient.)Â* This is how I learned about setting the immediate delete parameter in the Recycle bin. Just to make life easier I use a $15 keyboard wit a OTG adapter cable with my touch tablet. Rene |
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On 7/7/2018 2:30 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
On 07/07/2018 15:19, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space.Â*Â* I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. But you forgot to tell the OP, a person of low intelligence, that by deleting the files in SoftwareDistribution folder he would lose the history of his updates and as this is very important to him he will start swearing and cursing at you. As to exact number of bytes, it shouldn't be a lot if the machine managed to update it without any problems.Â* The update program should be able to clean up the leftovers after updating the system. The only time you need to delete the files is when the update is corrupted and so all the downloaded files remain in that folder. Don't you think so Mr Nuttle?Â* Can you give us some more info about this.Â* That paedophile by the name of Arlen Holder is archiving this on his "tribal whatever" website and now he's been outed as paedophile.Â* This will be on permanent record for people to search him out. England have reached the Semi-Final of the World Cup and now they have a very good chance of winning it unless the Russians sabotage their food to prevent them doing so.Â* Russians have piled up "Nerve Agents" to kill British Citizens as you may know this is well documented from your background working for them as their Chemical Engineer. /--- This email has been checked for viruses by Windows Defender software. //https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/ -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. Two things If the logs in the Datastore folder are not deleted, he will not loose his update history. To me that does not make any difference so all of those log files get deleted. The java files? can not be deleted if you don't turn off the update program. If you are working in limited disk space as the OP and I are working, updates fail leaving a lot of garbage. -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 14:25:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 7/7/2018 12:54 PM, Char Jackson wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 10:19:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am the one who suggested deleting files in SoftwareDistribution, and I can confirm that this folder can take up a lot of space. I never checked the exact number of bytes, but I know I have spent hours deleting the files. Hi Keith, I'm curious to hear why it took hours to delete those files, when I think it should have taken less than a minute. Do you have any thoughts on what was going on? Yes! First there were many folders, sub folders and files. I have selected all files in a folder and it has shown 6000 files area being deleted. Second it was on my tablet which is limited memory and a slow processor. I found an article mentioned earlier in this thread, and was shocked a the number of files I found in this folder. When you are deleting that many files even on a faster computer it takes some time. The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse operation Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen. Even if you do a select all, and delete; with thousands of files you never know if the system is hung up or is working. (I can be a bit impatient.) This is how I learned about setting the immediate delete parameter in the Recycle bin. Thanks, Keith, and thanks also to Paul for contributing his experience, as well. I guess I've seen something similar when I needed to delete over 100,000 jpg images and it took much longer than I expected. Not hours, but several minutes, as I recall. On XP, that same operation used to take about 10-20 seconds. |
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