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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:52:30 -0200, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:10:04 -0600, philo wrote: On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ ** Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. Why not reinstall XP, keep it offline and use it to test software (a lot of malware can detect a VM) ? I have a spare just for that. OR you could boot a Linux-CD firewall on it and keep track of all your network activity. If it's hacked, just reboot. A HD/keyboard/screen/graphical card would be un-necessary.Just two network cards, one of which is probably built into the MB .... []'s Or a single network card, just to get things going and to prove the concept. A second NIC can be added later, in order to increase the available bandwidth. -- Char Jackson |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:09:33 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:52:30 -0200, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:10:04 -0600, philo wrote: On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ ** Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. Why not reinstall XP, keep it offline and use it to test software (a lot of malware can detect a VM) ? I have a spare just for that. OR you could boot a Linux-CD firewall on it and keep track of all your network activity. If it's hacked, just reboot. A HD/keyboard/screen/graphical card would be un-necessary.Just two network cards, one of which is probably built into the MB .... []'s Or a single network card, just to get things going and to prove the concept. A second NIC can be added later, in order to increase the available bandwidth. I meant Instead of : User's PC/laptop --- Internet modem or whatever. This: User's PC/laptop --- NIC1(on Firewall) - Firewall and Monitoring -- NIC 2(on Firewall) ---- Internet modem or whatever. You can access the logs on the firewall through https or (bit primitive) something like PuTTY. Of course, since the firewall has no HD, the logs would be limited to amount of RAM and disappear when you reboot the firewall. Which is a good thing. If it's hacked, nothing remains after a re-boot. The CD or DVD is read-only. I used to have a setup like that with a dist based on Coyote (called BrazilFW). That was in the dialup days. Wow, the project is still active: https://sourceforge.net/projects/brazilfw/ 133 downloads this week !!! I thought it was dead. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Fresh install (laugh)
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:50:30 -0200, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:09:33 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:52:30 -0200, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:10:04 -0600, philo wrote: On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support. Firefox versions after that might need SSE2. https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ ** Paul Thank you. Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I can find a taker. Why not reinstall XP, keep it offline and use it to test software (a lot of malware can detect a VM) ? I have a spare just for that. OR you could boot a Linux-CD firewall on it and keep track of all your network activity. If it's hacked, just reboot. A HD/keyboard/screen/graphical card would be un-necessary.Just two network cards, one of which is probably built into the MB .... []'s Or a single network card, just to get things going and to prove the concept. A second NIC can be added later, in order to increase the available bandwidth. I meant Instead of : User's PC/laptop --- Internet modem or whatever. This: User's PC/laptop --- NIC1(on Firewall) - Firewall and Monitoring -- NIC 2(on Firewall) ---- Internet modem or whatever. No, I knew that's what you meant. I was just pointing out that you can set up a firewall, router, load balancer, whatever, using a single NIC. The operation is the same with one NIC versus two versus more than two, although the configuration does change slightly. More than one NIC gives you more throughput capability, but no more 'firewall' than a single NIC. You can access the logs on the firewall through https or (bit primitive) something like PuTTY. Of course, since the firewall has no HD, the logs would be limited to amount of RAM and disappear when you reboot the firewall. Which is a good thing. If it's hacked, nothing remains after a re-boot. The CD or DVD is read-only. I used to have a setup like that with a dist based on Coyote (called BrazilFW). That was in the dialup days. Wow, the project is still active: https://sourceforge.net/projects/brazilfw/ 133 downloads this week !!! I thought it was dead. []'s I haven't heard of that project, but it's cool that it's still around. I tend to think of pfSense when I need a firewall or a router, especially since pfSense also comes as a VM image. -- Char Jackson |
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On 22/01/2019 17:57, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not interested in installing it on "another computer". You have no idea at all of what Philo may or may not like. I very much doubt that you are even aware that he's just repaired a 1930s radio for a friend. He's a great practical man, good with computers and photography, and I think of him as a friend. He's certainly not afraid of HIS shadow, Shadow! -- David B. |
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On 1/22/19 3:24 AM, David B. wrote:
On 22/01/2019 03:09, philo wrote: On 1/21/19 5:48 PM, David B. wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms. Thank you , will try it Any luck? LOL, the machine died Will give Brave Browser a try on another machine one of these days. |
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On 1/22/19 11:22 AM, David B. wrote:
On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows Â*Â*Â*Â* An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// Â*Â*Â*Â*You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. Yep. Will try Brave Browser for sure. After I got Win7 updated the machine came up with a green screen after a reboot. Not a corrupted OS as even the BIOS screen was green. The machine had on-board video but when I simply installed a card,...same green screen. Machine going to the recyclers |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:01:20 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote: On 22/01/2019 17:57, Shadow wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not interested in installing it on "another computer". You have no idea at all of what Philo may or may not like. Then stop posting off topic and personal things. This is Usenet, not facebook. https://web.archive.org/web/20180204...ks-stalker.php []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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philo wrote:
Machine going to the recyclers Considering what software is available, probably the best conclusion. There will be other, more worthy keepers. Paul |
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On 1/22/19 5:01 PM, David B. wrote:
On 22/01/2019 17:57, Shadow wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// Â*Â*Â*Â*You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. Â*Â*Â*Â*So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not interested in installing it on "another computer". You have no idea at all of what Philo may or may not like. I very much doubt that you are even aware that he's just repaired a 1930s radio for a friend. He's a great practical man, good with computers and photography, and I think of him as a friend. He's certainly not afraid of HIS shadow, Shadow! I am not afraid of my shadow, but I am pretty much afraid of my reflection in the mirror! Just so weird having old radios and computers on the same repair bench. |
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On 1/22/19 8:58 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote: Machine going to the recyclers Considering what software is available, probably the best conclusion. There will be other, more worthy keepers. Â*Â* Paul It's to the point where a dual core machine with 8 gigs of RAM is an antique. I'm down to may last 4, spare machines |
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On 23/01/2019 00:49, philo wrote:
On 1/22/19 3:24 AM, David B. wrote: On 22/01/2019 03:09, philo wrote: On 1/21/19 5:48 PM, David B. wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine. Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this? I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms. Thank you , will try it Any luck? LOL, the machine died Will give Brave Browser a try on another machine one of these days. Good man! :-) -- David B. |
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On 23/01/2019 02:54, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:01:20 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 22/01/2019 17:57, Shadow wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not interested in installing it on "another computer". You have no idea at all of what Philo may or may not like. Then stop posting off topic and personal things. This is Usenet, not facebook. *PLONK*! |
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On 23/01/2019 02:58, philo wrote:
On 1/22/19 5:01 PM, David B. wrote: On 22/01/2019 17:57, Shadow wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// Â*Â*Â*Â*You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. Â*Â*Â*Â*So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not interested in installing it on "another computer". You have no idea at all of what Philo may or may not like. I very much doubt that you are even aware that he's just repaired a 1930s radio for a friend. He's a great practical man, good with computers and photography, and I think of him as a friend. He's certainly not afraid of HIS shadow, Shadow! I am not afraid of my shadow, but I am pretty much afraid of my reflection in the mirror! Hardly surprising! ;-) Just so weird having old radios and computers on the same repair bench. Yep - and the guy fixing them is fast heading the same way as the radios! (aren't we both?!!!) -- David B. |
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On 23/01/2019 00:52, philo wrote:
On 1/22/19 11:22 AM, David B. wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows Â*Â*Â*Â* An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// Â*Â*Â*Â*You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. Yep. Will try Brave Browser for sure. After I got Win7 updated the machine came up with a green screen after a reboot. Not a corrupted OS as even the BIOS screen was green. The machine had on-board video but when I simply installed a card,...same green screen. Machine going to the recyclers Thanks for the update. I had a tear in my eye when I took me old iMac to the tip! :-( Btw, here's another browser you might like to play with: https://vivaldi.com Cheers! :-) -- David B. |
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On 1/23/19 6:12 PM, David B. wrote:
On 23/01/2019 00:52, philo wrote: On 1/22/19 11:22 AM, David B. wrote: On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David wrote: On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote: Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800 and gave him a spare Win10 machine. I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7 All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the Microsoft site to download it with IE8. I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny. Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or Chrome. I've been playing with this, Philo https://github.com/brave/brave-browser //What are the system requirements to install Brave? Windows Â*Â*Â*Â* An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable// Â*Â*Â*Â*You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ? No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer. Yep. Will try Brave Browser for sure. After I got Win7 updated the machine came up with a green screen after a reboot. Not a corrupted OS as even the BIOS screen was green. The machine had on-board video but when I simply installed a card,...same green screen. Machine going to the recyclers Thanks for the update. I had a tear in my eye when I took me old iMac to the tip! :-( Btw, here's another browser you might like to play with: https://vivaldi.com Cheers! :-) I already use Vivaldi, thanks |
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