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Old February 15th 19, 04:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
aioli
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Default VPN vs Thunderbird Mail


Probably not just thunderbird but any email or similar app.

I had Thunderbird running in email mode.

I started a VPN to access a newsgroup site that seemed to be blocking me.

I made my benign post then noticed that all my email accounts had
messages from GMAIL and MS that my email was under attack.

Well it was just that Thunderbird was checking my email accounts with a
very different IP address.

So I am having to go to each account and tell them it was me.

Remembering next time to shut off any email app while on the VPN.

And now on the radio there are folks pushing Norton VPN etc and what
chaos that will cause for email accounts.

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Old February 16th 19, 03:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
JJ[_11_]
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Default VPN vs Thunderbird Mail

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 07:48:18 -0800, AIOLI wrote:
Probably not just thunderbird but any email or similar app.

I had Thunderbird running in email mode.

I started a VPN to access a newsgroup site that seemed to be blocking me.

I made my benign post then noticed that all my email accounts had
messages from GMAIL and MS that my email was under attack.

Well it was just that Thunderbird was checking my email accounts with a
very different IP address.

So I am having to go to each account and tell them it was me.

Remembering next time to shut off any email app while on the VPN.

And now on the radio there are folks pushing Norton VPN etc and what
chaos that will cause for email accounts.


If you've never used a VPN or that specific VPN server, and the warning
emails came not long after the VPN is used, chances are that the VPN server
is monitoring your network traffic, and you've at least transmit or receive
your user names using unsecured network protocol. e.g. HTTP instead of
HPPTS.

Or you're being specifically targetted by someone.
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Old February 16th 19, 09:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Cartographer
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Default VPN vs Thunderbird Mail

AIOLI wrote:

I started a VPN to access a newsgroup site that seemed to be blocking me.


The OP has been violating the Aioe.org news server's terms of use and
has had his IP address banned by the Aioe.org news server. [See the
OP's thread in the XP newsgroup and the Aioe.org terms of use.]

Now, the OP is going to screw it for other users of the VPN who share
his VPN exit point IP address.


REF: The OP's thread in the XP newsgroup
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/HRUGdz-M3IU/discussion


REF: AIOE Terms of use https://news.aioe.org/manual/termsofuse/

1. Access rules
* No more that four concurrent connections
...
* No persistent connections
...
* No more than 600 connections per day
...
* No waste of system resources
...
Any IP address that exceeds these activity thresholds is
banned from the server.


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


FWIW, a Windows XP user.

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Old February 18th 19, 07:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
AIOLI
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Default VPN vs Thunderbird Mail

What you say is absolutely NOT true !

The next day, after closing the Seamonkey tool on my PC, I was allowed
to access AIOE no problem.

I am not banned fro AIOE.

AIOE was just keeping me from being logged in (Seamonkey keeps looking
at each provider to see if any updates are present).

Seamonkey is too busy peeking at the providers.
I can turn that peeking off in Semonkey.

But I would rather not and jut close Seamonkey when done although it
would be nice to sit down at the computer and have all updates waiting
for my perusal.




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Old February 18th 19, 08:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default VPN vs Thunderbird Mail

AIOLI wrote:
What you say is absolutely NOT true !

The next day, after closing the Seamonkey tool on my PC, I was allowed
to access AIOE no problem.

I am not banned fro AIOE.

AIOE was just keeping me from being logged in (Seamonkey keeps looking
at each provider to see if any updates are present).

Seamonkey is too busy peeking at the providers.
I can turn that peeking off in Semonkey.

But I would rather not and jut close Seamonkey when done although it
would be nice to sit down at the computer and have all updates waiting
for my perusal.


Usually USENET News servers have a "maximum number of connection requests
per day" limit in their TOS. This means that persistent pests, like
software that "checks for new messages" are not welcome. Manually
checking for new messages is sufficient. If you dialed back the frequency,
like check-in every 15 minutes, that would help.

The servers also use "transient connections" at the best of times. If
a TCP/IP connection has been quiet for a few seconds, the server
drops the connection. This reduces the amount of RAM needed on the
server, to handle hundreds and hundreds of active posters. The "size"
of the server determines how many clients it can handle. Sometimes
the OS would need to be modified to have larger tables for
some of the stuff used.

A well written TOS (Terms Of Service) on the News Server site,
should alert you to these limitations. AIOE has more rules than most
and I can't actually find a page now with the TOS on it!. Just the
welcome page that says 40 messages a day.

For fun, you can see who is banned by IP at the moment, and the reason.

https://news.aioe.org/stats/banned-ips/

"1067 connections (22363.362 seconds), 460 connections when already banned"

Paul
 




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