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  #91  
Old July 7th 20, 03:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS

In article , Jonathan N. Little
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An additional cost that many may not be aware of is that national
auto part chains like Auto Zone or Advance are now charging the 66%
mechanic's markup on parts. If a mechanic charges you $100 in parts
it's really $60 + a $40 scam labor charge. Now many auto parts stores
are charging the same $100. I think that started with Toyota official
parts, but it's extended to aftermarket dealers.


I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on tubes was
100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If someone wanted
to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics store to fix his own TV
he was charged the full $6 unless he could show a business license.
Nothing ever really changes (much)...


Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store to sell the
"tube" [full stop]


false. genuine apple parts are available, although not necessarily at a
'wholesale electronics store', whatever that supposedly is.

there *are* legitimate places where genuine apple parts can be
purchased. there are also aftermarket parts that work, which like any
aftermarket part, is sometimes better than oem and sometimes not.

genuine nikon, canon, olympus, etc. parts aren't found at a 'wholesale
camera store' either. you might find them at an authorized camera
repair shop, but they probably won't sell you just the part if you
don't also have them do the repair. if they're not factory authorized,
they likely will not be able to get the parts at all, and the chances
are extremely high that there are no aftermarket parts.

genuine toyota, ford, etc., parts won't be found at the local autoparts
store. you have to go to the dealer for that. autoparts stores usually
have aftermarket parts that are compatible, but not necessarily the
same quality. some parts have no aftermarket version.
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  #92  
Old July 7th 20, 03:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Brian
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it's not immediately obvious, but it's not that hard for those who
might choose to do so.


Out of interest, how is it done, roughly?


how is what done?

you snipped too much.
  #93  
Old July 7th 20, 03:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
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you're also ignoring the value of your time.

My free hobby time is not vaued


hobby is exactly what it is.

you do realize that not everyone has the same interest in the same
hobbies you do, right?


So?


the so is that different people choose to do different things and
there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.


saving $150 for what is generally a 1-2 day job is barely minimum wage.

Hah, 1 or 2 days shows how little you know, took about 5 hours


that depends on the vehicle.

being an expert mechanic, you must realize that some vehicles are more
involved than others, right?


No ****!


apparently not. otherwise you'd realize that some vehicles can be a 1-2
day ordeal, possibly even longer if there's an unexpected problem.

when i had the timing chain replaced on my vehicle, it took my mechanic
two days because a lot of other stuff had to come out before he could
get to the engine, and then it all had go back in afterwards.


holds true for any vehicle.


what you fail to grasp is that it *varies* by quite a bit.


but ignoring that, even at 5 hours, saving $150 is a measly $30/hr. you
clearly work for cheap.


It's not only the money, it's a great feeling working with your family
members


your initial claim was about how much money you could save (even going
so far asto itemize each amount), not having a family experience.

you're neglecting the cost of the tools, parts availability and time.

I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe,
Milling machine, drill press, power hacksaw and all the handtools I need.
Parts I buy as required.


you didn't get all of that for free.


Of course not, I acquired them over time, they don,t give those things
away at your local bazzar.


sometimes they do.

swap meets are a great place to get a wide variety of tools for cheap,
sometimes even for free.

unfortunately, due to the pandemic, there won't be any swap meets for a
while, even though they're usually outdoors, probably not until next
year...
  #94  
Old July 7th 20, 03:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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nospam wrote:

swap meets are a great place to get a wide variety of tools for cheap,
sometimes even for free.


What tools that are worth having have you got for free at a swap meet?
Tools are generally less expensive than they have ever been, since we
have been making them in China. There's no reason to be cheap about
it...if your time is worth anything, just buy the tools you need.
That doesn't mean you have to pass them up at the flea market.

  #95  
Old July 7th 20, 04:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:
123456789 wrote:


I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on
tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If
someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics
store to fix his own TV he was charged the full $6 unless he
could show a business license. Nothing ever really changes
(much)...


Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store to
sell the "tube" [full stop]


false. genuine apple parts are available, although not necessarily at
a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that supposedly is.


The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just that.
They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors, capacitors,
flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament transformers,
rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes, conical antennas,
300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also some ham parts like the
6146's in my finals. Great place to browse. But you had to pay retail
unless you had a business license thus it was a wholesale store. And
Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...
  #96  
Old July 7th 20, 01:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , 123456789
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I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on
tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If
someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics
store to fix his own TV he was charged the full $6 unless he
could show a business license. Nothing ever really changes
(much)...


Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store to
sell the "tube" [full stop]


false. genuine apple parts are available, although not necessarily at
a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that supposedly is.


The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just that.
They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors, capacitors,
flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament transformers,
rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes, conical antennas,
300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also some ham parts like the
6146's in my finals. Great place to browse. But you had to pay retail
unless you had a business license thus it was a wholesale store. And
Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone now.
  #97  
Old July 7th 20, 02:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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nospam wrote:
123456789 wrote:


I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup
on tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged
$6. If someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale
electronics store to fix his own TV he was charged the full
$6 unless he could show a business license. Nothing ever
really changes (much)...


Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store
to sell the "tube" [full stop]


false. genuine apple parts are available, although not
necessarily at a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that
supposedly is.


The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just
that. They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors,
capacitors, flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament
transformers, rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes,
conical antennas, 300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also
some ham parts like the 6146's in my finals. Great place to browse.
But you had to pay retail unless you had a business license thus it
was a wholesale store. And


Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone
now.


Course not. My last line about Apple in the 50's was obviously tongue in
cheek. I had hoped everyone would chuckle a bit at it, but I guess I
needed a winky for some. You really need to try and loosen up a bit...

  #98  
Old July 7th 20, 03:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 08:35:20 -0400, nospam
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In article , 123456789
wrote:

I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on
tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If
someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics
store to fix his own TV he was charged the full $6 unless he
could show a business license. Nothing ever really changes
(much)...


Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store to
sell the "tube" [full stop]


false. genuine apple parts are available, although not necessarily at
a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that supposedly is.


The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just that.
They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors, capacitors,
flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament transformers,
rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes, conical antennas,
300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also some ham parts like the
6146's in my finals. Great place to browse. But you had to pay retail
unless you had a business license thus it was a wholesale store. And
Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone now.


There are many in the UK.



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  #99  
Old July 7th 20, 03:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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123456789 wrote:
nospam wrote:
123456789 wrote:


I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup
on tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged
$6. If someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale
electronics store to fix his own TV he was charged the full
$6 unless he could show a business license. Nothing ever
really changes (much)...

Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store
to sell the "tube" [full stop]

false. genuine apple parts are available, although not
necessarily at a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that
supposedly is.

The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just
that. They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors,
capacitors, flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament
transformers, rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes,
conical antennas, 300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also
some ham parts like the 6146's in my finals. Great place to browse.
But you had to pay retail unless you had a business license thus it
was a wholesale store. And


Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone
now.


Course not. My last line about Apple in the 50's was obviously tongue in
cheek. I had hoped everyone would chuckle a bit at it, but I guess I
needed a winky for some. You really need to try and loosen up a bit...


Mine was analogy was 50-60's could get supply to repair vs now Apple's
stand against Right to Repair.

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Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
  #100  
Old July 7th 20, 03:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:
"Chris" wrote

| With cars being computers on wheels nowadays most mechanics don't know how
| they work either. Especially non-ICE ones. They plug in a laptop with
| diagnostic software and fix whatever the s/ware tells them to. Rinse and
| repeat until the car works again.
|

I bought one of those error report gizmos. $50. Works well.
The trouble is that all the errors are from things that didn't
even exist a few years earlier. On my last truck I had to
replace two exhaust pipe sensors. Exhaust pipe sensors?!


Yep. That's why cars don't have a manual choke anymore. The engine
management system is continually tuning the engine so needs sensors. I've
had one fail recently and the car sounded really rough until it was
replaced.

  #101  
Old July 7th 20, 03:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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nospam wrote:
In article , 123456789
wrote:

I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on
tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If
someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics
store to fix his own TV he was charged the full $6 unless he
could show a business license. Nothing ever really changes
(much)...


Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store to
sell the "tube" [full stop]


false. genuine apple parts are available, although not necessarily at
a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that supposedly is.


The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just that.
They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors, capacitors,
flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament transformers,
rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes, conical antennas,
300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also some ham parts like the
6146's in my finals. Great place to browse. But you had to pay retail
unless you had a business license thus it was a wholesale store. And
Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone now.


Grainger should have everything you need, no?

https://www.grainger.com/search?sear...rical+suppl y

  #102  
Old July 7th 20, 04:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:
123456789 wrote:
nospam wrote:
123456789 wrote:


I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup
on tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged
$6. If someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale
electronics store to fix his own TV he was charged the full
$6 unless he could show a business license. Nothing ever
really changes (much)...

Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store
to sell the "tube" [full stop]

false. genuine apple parts are available, although not
necessarily at a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that
supposedly is.

The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just
that. They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors,
capacitors, flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament
transformers, rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes,
conical antennas, 300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also
some ham parts like the 6146's in my finals. Great place to browse.
But you had to pay retail unless you had a business license thus it
was a wholesale store. And


Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone
now.


Course not. My last line about Apple in the 50's was obviously tongue in
cheek. I had hoped everyone would chuckle a bit at it, but I guess I
needed a winky for some. You really need to try and loosen up a bit...


Mine was analogy was 50-60's could get supply to repair vs now Apple's
stand against Right to Repair.


Comparing high-end micro electronics of the 2020s with the early
transistor/ late tube era of 70 years ago is ridiculous. That's like
comparing the shuttle era nasa with the wooden Sopwith Camel.



  #103  
Old July 7th 20, 05:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Chris wrote:
Comparing high-end micro electronics of the 2020s with the early
transistor/ late tube era of 70 years ago is ridiculous. That's like
comparing the shuttle era nasa with the wooden Sopwith Camel.


No it is about policy. If power connector, video cable, ram goes bad on
a PC you can get the part and fix it, not so with Apple by policy and
design... In the old days regardless of the technology difference parts
were available to fix stuff.

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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
  #104  
Old July 7th 20, 05:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:
123456789 wrote:
nospam wrote:
123456789 wrote:


I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup
on tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged
$6. If someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale
electronics store to fix his own TV he was charged the full
$6 unless he could show a business license. Nothing ever
really changes (much)...

Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store
to sell the "tube" [full stop]

false. genuine apple parts are available, although not
necessarily at a 'wholesale electronics store', whatever that
supposedly is.

The wholesale electronics stores of the 50's in my area were just
that. They sold all kinds electronic parts: Tubes, resistors,
capacitors, flyback transformers, picture tubes, yokes, filament
transformers, rotary tuners, potentiometers, power supply chokes,
conical antennas, 300 ohm twin lead, 6AU6's, 6L6's, etc etc. Also
some ham parts like the 6146's in my finals. Great place to browse.
But you had to pay retail unless you had a business license thus it
was a wholesale store. And


Jon is right, they didn't sell genuine Apple parts...


not in the 1950s, they didn't, and stores like that are long gone
now.


Course not. My last line about Apple in the 50's was obviously tongue in
cheek. I had hoped everyone would chuckle a bit at it, but I guess I
needed a winky for some. You really need to try and loosen up a bit...


Mine was analogy was 50-60's could get supply to repair vs now Apple's
stand against Right to Repair.


I got your Apple analogy fishhook. And it seems you caught a few.
Arlen's better at it though...


  #105  
Old July 7th 20, 05:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Jonathan N. Little
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Comparing high-end micro electronics of the 2020s with the early
transistor/ late tube era of 70 years ago is ridiculous. That's like
comparing the shuttle era nasa with the wooden Sopwith Camel.


No it is about policy. If power connector, video cable, ram goes bad on
a PC you can get the part and fix it, not so with Apple by policy and
design...


false.

In the old days regardless of the technology difference parts
were available to fix stuff.


they still are.
 




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