Task Manager

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 8:21 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:37:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:35:28 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0600, Jo-Anne
wrote:

How do I create a shortcut to Task Manager? It's hard to get to using
Control Panel, and I can't find any options to create a shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Not reliably. On many Windows machines, it brings up a menu that
includes Task Manager as one choice.

Ctrl+Shift+Esc is the reliable shortcut to Task Manager.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Why go to all this trouble when you can just right click on the task bar
& select "start task manager"?

You remind me of the lady who gave a listener commentary on a local NPR
station on the subject of an upcoming telephone area code overlay,
saying that dialing 10 or 11 digits instead of 7 would be "dreadful".

Myself, I find Ctrl-Shift-Esc less than dreadful. I don't even see it as
"all this trouble"...

If I get bored, I even press the left Ctrl-Shift instead of the right
ones. I still use the left Esc, though.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 3/8/2015 9:48 AM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 8:21 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:37:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:35:28 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0600, Jo-Anne
wrote:

How do I create a shortcut to Task Manager? It's hard to get to using
Control Panel, and I can't find any options to create a shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Not reliably. On many Windows machines, it brings up a menu that
includes Task Manager as one choice.

Ctrl+Shift+Esc is the reliable shortcut to Task Manager.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Why go to all this trouble when you can just right click on the task bar
& select "start task manager"?

You remind me of the lady who gave a listener commentary on a local NPR
station on the subject of an upcoming telephone area code overlay,
saying that dialing 10 or 11 digits instead of 7 would be "dreadful".

Myself, I find Ctrl-Shift-Esc less than dreadful. I don't even see it as
"all this trouble"...

If I get bored, I even press the left Ctrl-Shift instead of the right
ones. I still use the left Esc, though.

And that's fine & dandy; that's only 1 extra keystroke or mouse click.
Myself, I'm glad I know a few of those control + & other short cuts.
But I'd rather not have to remember them if I don't have a need & have
no need for something that's already readily available. There's no need
to remember shortcuts or create new links as others have suggested.

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:06:08 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 9:48 AM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 8:21 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:37:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:35:28 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0600, Jo-Anne
wrote:

How do I create a shortcut to Task Manager? It's hard to get to using
Control Panel, and I can't find any options to create a shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Not reliably. On many Windows machines, it brings up a menu that
includes Task Manager as one choice.

Ctrl+Shift+Esc is the reliable shortcut to Task Manager.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Why go to all this trouble when you can just right click on the task bar
& select "start task manager"?

You remind me of the lady who gave a listener commentary on a local NPR
station on the subject of an upcoming telephone area code overlay,
saying that dialing 10 or 11 digits instead of 7 would be "dreadful".

Myself, I find Ctrl-Shift-Esc less than dreadful. I don't even see it as
"all this trouble"...

If I get bored, I even press the left Ctrl-Shift instead of the right
ones. I still use the left Esc, though.

And that's fine & dandy; that's only 1 extra keystroke or mouse click.
Myself, I'm glad I know a few of those control + & other short cuts.
But I'd rather not have to remember them if I don't have a need & have
no need for something that's already readily available. There's no need
to remember shortcuts or create new links as others have suggested.

I'd have to remember the right click on the taskbar. I *do* remember
Ctrl-Shift-Esc, but truth to tell, not a huge number of other KB
shortcuts.

Maybe that's why there are so many alternatives, so that both you and I
can both function, each in his own comfort zone :-)

BTW - I don't see Ctrl-Shift as two keystrokes, partly because I have
two or more working fingers on each hand & partly because the two sets
of two keys are adjacent on each end of the KB. It also takes me
noticeably less time[1] to press the key combos than to do the
dreadful[2] mouse and click dance you like.

[1] Yeah, one second vs four or five seconds. Mathematically
significant, practically not so much.

[2] Joking allusion to my earlier tale.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 3/8/2015 12:42 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 10:06:08 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 9:48 AM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 8:21 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:37:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:35:28 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0600, Jo-Anne
wrote:

How do I create a shortcut to Task Manager? It's hard to get to using
Control Panel, and I can't find any options to create a shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Not reliably. On many Windows machines, it brings up a menu that
includes Task Manager as one choice.

Ctrl+Shift+Esc is the reliable shortcut to Task Manager.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Why go to all this trouble when you can just right click on the task bar
& select "start task manager"?

You remind me of the lady who gave a listener commentary on a local NPR
station on the subject of an upcoming telephone area code overlay,
saying that dialing 10 or 11 digits instead of 7 would be "dreadful".

Myself, I find Ctrl-Shift-Esc less than dreadful. I don't even see it as
"all this trouble"...

If I get bored, I even press the left Ctrl-Shift instead of the right
ones. I still use the left Esc, though.

And that's fine & dandy; that's only 1 extra keystroke or mouse click.
Myself, I'm glad I know a few of those control + & other short cuts.
But I'd rather not have to remember them if I don't have a need & have
no need for something that's already readily available. There's no need
to remember shortcuts or create new links as others have suggested.

I'd have to remember the right click on the taskbar. I *do* remember
Ctrl-Shift-Esc, but truth to tell, not a huge number of other KB
shortcuts.

Maybe that's why there are so many alternatives, so that both you and I
can both function, each in his own comfort zone :-)

BTW - I don't see Ctrl-Shift as two keystrokes, partly because I have
two or more working fingers on each hand & partly because the two sets
of two keys are adjacent on each end of the KB. It also takes me
noticeably less time[1] to press the key combos than to do the
dreadful[2] mouse and click dance you like.

[1] Yeah, one second vs four or five seconds. Mathematically
significant, practically not so much.

[2] Joking allusion to my earlier tale.

Unless I'm actively typing, I often have my right hand on the mouse (or
use it for the arrow & page up/page functions) & the left is my coffee
drinking hand ;) so it's more convenient for me to use the mouse.

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:28:52 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

Unless I'm actively typing, I often have my right hand on the mouse (or
use it for the arrow & page up/page functions) & the left is my coffee
drinking hand ;) so it's more convenient for me to use the mouse.

Well why didn't you say so before? It would have saved all this argument
:-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 16:48:13 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 8:21 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:37:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:35:28 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0600, Jo-Anne
wrote:

How do I create a shortcut to Task Manager? It's hard to get to using
Control Panel, and I can't find any options to create a shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Not reliably. On many Windows machines, it brings up a menu that
includes Task Manager as one choice.

Ctrl+Shift+Esc is the reliable shortcut to Task Manager.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Why go to all this trouble when you can just right click on the task bar
& select "start task manager"?

You remind me of the lady who gave a listener commentary on a local NPR
station on the subject of an upcoming telephone area code overlay,
saying that dialing 10 or 11 digits instead of 7 would be "dreadful".

Myself, I find Ctrl-Shift-Esc less than dreadful. I don't even see it as
"all this trouble"...

If I get bored, I even press the left Ctrl-Shift instead of the right
ones. I still use the left Esc, though.

I had to look at my keyboard to check to see that there actually was a
right Ctrl key.




--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 08:02:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 16:48:13 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 09:06:03 +0900, BobbyM wrote:

On 3/8/2015 8:21 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:37:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:35:28 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:37 -0600, Jo-Anne
wrote:

How do I create a shortcut to Task Manager? It's hard to get to using
Control Panel, and I can't find any options to create a shortcut.

Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Not reliably. On many Windows machines, it brings up a menu that
includes Task Manager as one choice.

Ctrl+Shift+Esc is the reliable shortcut to Task Manager.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Why go to all this trouble when you can just right click on the task bar
& select "start task manager"?

You remind me of the lady who gave a listener commentary on a local NPR
station on the subject of an upcoming telephone area code overlay,
saying that dialing 10 or 11 digits instead of 7 would be "dreadful".

Myself, I find Ctrl-Shift-Esc less than dreadful. I don't even see it as
"all this trouble"...

If I get bored, I even press the left Ctrl-Shift instead of the right
ones. I still use the left Esc, though.

I had to look at my keyboard to check to see that there actually was a
right Ctrl key.

ISTR that some keyboards have only one Ctrl key, so you were being
prudent :-)

I just use whichever Ctrl, Alt, or Shift key is convenient at the
moment, so I am aware that they are on both sides. I only have one
Windows key on this KB, though.

I also have a vague memory of situations where a certain program treats
the left shift (or Ctrl or Alt) key differently from the right. For me
that wouldn't be particularly user friendly :-)

One example might be Microsoft's assistance for disabled users. Not
sure, though.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:49:18 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
I also have a vague memory of situations where a certain program treats
the left shift (or Ctrl or Alt) key differently from the right. For me
that wouldn't be particularly user friendly :-)

Autohotkey does, if you tell it to. I wouldn't say it "treats them
differently", but rather that you can configure it to treat them
differently. I've never done that, for the same reason as you: I use
both, with no particular pattern.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 13:49:18 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
I also have a vague memory of situations where a certain program treats
the left shift (or Ctrl or Alt) key differently from the right. For me
that wouldn't be particularly user friendly :-)

Autohotkey does, if you tell it to. I wouldn't say it "treats them
differently", but rather that you can configure it to treat them
differently. I've never done that, for the same reason as you: I use
both, with no particular pattern.

The UK keyboard layout calls the right Alt "Alt Gr", and uses it
slightly differently (mainly to obtain assorted characters - AltGR-4
gives Euro sign, with some letters you get the accented version, and so
on. I think several other layouts do too.

(This keyboard - Samsung NC-20 - has _only_ a right Windows key, and the
context key is on the left; I've not seen that anywhere else!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A closed mouth gathers no foot.