No email on W-7

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:56:54 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:45:09 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:56:49 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:55:20 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

Thanks - indeed now I know!

I'll have to review my stays in April. Perhaps I accomplished more than
I realized. For example, lately I've seen denials that the world will
end in December this year. That might be due to something I did while at
those motels.

BTW, both stays were quite satisfactory.

I expect big things from you. Great accomplishments, and all that.

Especially after the Mayan Calendar expires :-)

If the world ends that day and we're all killed, I'm going to come
looking for you to get an explanation. Something tells me I have a
logic problem there, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Well, I will have all of my excuses ready, so I'm not worried.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

DanS wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in
:

RH Breener wrote:

There's no comparison between the ultra bloated WLM and
WM. CDs and DVDs are an improvement over 8-track tapes.
WLM is no improvement over WM. If most people were happy
with WLM, there wouldn't be so many websites devoted to
getting WL to work on W7.

Did Windows Mail have the Live integration features of
Windows Live Mail? WLM will integrate with Skydrive to let
you store files up there, like putting your attachments up
there and linking to them in your e-mail. That way, you
don't assault your recipients with huge-sized e-mails that
consume their bandwidth and disk space and they can decide
whether or not to go get your attachment.

That's what DropBox is for.

Or the included disk space for your personal web page provided by your
ISP.

Or use a free online file storage service (e.g., MediaFire, Megashares,
MegaUpload, Sendspace, Spread-it, TransferBigFiles).

But those and Dropbox are not *integrated* services with the e-mail
client. I can (and have) use aDrive to store my backup files for a free
means of doing "cloud" backups but obviously that's not really a backup
client doing the uploads to store its backup files. I can do it but
it's a manual operation versus an integrated function.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:50:57 +0000 (UTC), Jordon
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:05:02 +0000 (UTC), Jordon
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:16:41 +0000 (UTC), Jordon
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:31:03 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Most, if not all news servers require you to have a valid
e-mail address to set up the account, and this address
will appear in the "from" portion of the headers. It
often does not have to exist for anything apart from
setting up and administering the account, and cen be
deleted or changed at any time.

Valid in *format* perhaps, but not necessarily valid in
the sense of existing. The address I use here
) does not exist, as far as I know.

You may have misread what he said. Most news providers
require a valid email address, only to set up an account.
They send an email to that account that you have to respond
to in order to validate the account.


You say "most," but as far as I can remember, I've never used
any that has done that. I use four news servers at the
moment, and over the years I've used about half a dozen (or
more) others.

You're using news.datemas.de?


Nope. I've never used it, and have never even heard of it. I
assume that's a German server, and I've never used any German
servers.


Did you first sign up here...

https://web.datemas.de/kunden/cart.php?a=add&pid=25
&language=English

You paid for it and it didn't require a valid email address to
sign up?


I've never paid for the use of any news server.

Then you must be using eternal-september.org.


That's *one* of the ones I'm using.


It's the only other
news service that I can find in your headers, but I wasn't sure if it
was a reflection of my own service which is also eternal-
september.org. They require a valid email address to sign up for an
account.

The first time you connected to eternal-september.org Agent required
you to enter a password.


OK, if you say so I'll believe you. But either your memory is much
better than mine or I started using eternal-september well before you
did. ;-)

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:15:00 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:51:17 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

You may have misread what he said. Most news providers require a
valid email address, only to set up an account. They send an email to
that account that you have to respond to in order to validate the
account.

You say "most," but as far as I can remember, I've never used any that
has done that. I use four news servers at the moment, and over the
years I've used about half a dozen (or more) others.

It's possible that I just have forgotten, but I don't think I've
forgotten ten or twelve.

You may have forgotten ten or twelve...


Maybe. I suffer from CRS syndrome and can't remember what it is that
I've forgotten. g

But I'm almost sure I didn't have to do it for *all* the servers I've
used.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:47:45 -0700, XS11E
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:02:47 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:
You guys are out of touch with pop culture, AKA useless
information.



Thanks for the kind words. ;-)

I work hard at staying away from pop culture.

How can anyone claim to be educated who doesn't watch Jerry Springer?
G



Jerry who? g

Actually, I've heard the name, but I know nothing about him, have
never seen him, and don't even know what he looks like.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:34:24 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

DanS wrote:

That's what DropBox is for.

Or the included disk space for your personal web page provided by your
ISP.

Or use a free online file storage service (e.g., MediaFire, Megashares,
MegaUpload, Sendspace, Spread-it, TransferBigFiles).

Megaupload has been in the news recently. They've been shut down.
Details at http://www.megaupload.com/.

--

Char Jackson

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:15:00 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:51:17 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

You may have misread what he said. Most news providers require a
valid email address, only to set up an account. They send an email to
that account that you have to respond to in order to validate the
account.

You say "most," but as far as I can remember, I've never used any that
has done that. I use four news servers at the moment, and over the
years I've used about half a dozen (or more) others.

It's possible that I just have forgotten, but I don't think I've
forgotten ten or twelve.

You may have forgotten ten or twelve...

I have had to provide a valid address to most or all of the servers I've
used recently so that they can send me credentials...

Yes, but have any of those NSP's required you to configure your news
client with that valid address, or any valid address? The valid
address is usually limited to what you said, providing you with your
credentials.

This whole subthread took off because one person said his valid
address was in his From header. I replied by saying I had never seen a
news provider that required its customers to configure their posting
clients with a valid address. Valid-looking format, perhaps, but
that's as far as it goes.

--

Char Jackson

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:03:27 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

Lightsucker is too dark for my taste, and thus, the name. As to
pink, I love the colour. I rarely wear a top that is not a shade of
pink. The polo T I have on right now is a colour called cherry
blossom. It is a medium pink. Pink goes well with quite a few
colours: brown (of similar darkness), whites and off-whites, and what
I call off-blacks (like charcoal).

Kind of OT, perhaps, but interesting to me is the fact that you're the
second guy I've heard of who isn't afraid to wear shades of pink, (the
other was a burly ex-Marine coworker who regularly dared people to
make fun of him), and you're the first guy I've heard of who wears a
"top". Thanks for expanding my brain just a bit today, I think.

--

Char Jackson

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:50:57 +0000 (UTC), Jordon
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:05:02 +0000 (UTC), Jordon
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:16:41 +0000 (UTC), Jordon
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:31:03 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Most, if not all news servers require you to have a valid
e-mail address to set up the account, and this address
will appear in the "from" portion of the headers. It
often does not have to exist for anything apart from
setting up and administering the account, and cen be
deleted or changed at any time.

Valid in *format* perhaps, but not necessarily valid in
the sense of existing. The address I use here
) does not exist, as far as I know.

You may have misread what he said. Most news providers
require a valid email address, only to set up an account.
They send an email to that account that you have to respond
to in order to validate the account.


You say "most," but as far as I can remember, I've never used
any that has done that. I use four news servers at the
moment, and over the years I've used about half a dozen (or
more) others.

You're using news.datemas.de?


Nope. I've never used it, and have never even heard of it. I
assume that's a German server, and I've never used any German
servers.


Did you first sign up here...

https://web.datemas.de/kunden/cart.php?a=add&pid=25
&language=English

You paid for it and it didn't require a valid email address to
sign up?


I've never paid for the use of any news server.

Then you must be using eternal-september.org. It's the only other
news service that I can find in your headers, but I wasn't sure if it
was a reflection of my own service which is also eternal-
september.org. They require a valid email address to sign up for an
account.

But they don't require their users to configure that valid address, or
any valid address, in their news clients.

--

Char Jackson

VanguardLH wrote in
:

DanS wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in
:

RH Breener wrote:

There's no comparison between the ultra bloated WLM and
WM. CDs and DVDs are an improvement over 8-track tapes.
WLM is no improvement over WM. If most people were
happy with WLM, there wouldn't be so many websites
devoted to getting WL to work on W7.

Did Windows Mail have the Live integration features of
Windows Live Mail? WLM will integrate with Skydrive to
let you store files up there, like putting your
attachments up there and linking to them in your e-mail.
That way, you don't assault your recipients with
huge-sized e-mails that consume their bandwidth and disk
space and they can decide whether or not to go get your
attachment.

That's what DropBox is for.

Or the included disk space for your personal web page
provided by your ISP.

Or use a free online file storage service (e.g., MediaFire,
Megashares, MegaUpload, Sendspace, Spread-it,
TransferBigFiles).

But those and Dropbox are not *integrated* services with
the e-mail client.

This is true...but not a showstopper.....*for me*.

The Linux version of DB has one more feature than the Windows
version which makes it less troublesome to use DB for such.

In Windows, you have to copy the file to the public DB folder,
then right-click the file within the public DB folder, go to
the DB context menu, and select "Copy Public Link".

In the Linux version, DB has a context menu entry when you r-
click a file in the standard file manager that has a "Copy to
Public Folder & Place Public link in Clipboard." So, one right
click and the clipboard is loaded with the public link w/o
having to navigate there to even copy the file there.

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in
:

However, I digress.....

I just purchased an under-dash 8-track player, although
admittedly, it is for my classic 1965 van. Tapes are still
easy to find, online, or fleamarkets/yard/garage sales.

Hey! Lucky guy!

I never would have guessed that the drives and tapes could
be found and would still work.

The player I bought was brand new in the box never used for
$15.

Tapes and players are all over E-Bay.



I have some elderly audio cassettes, some of which seem to
be jammed, and two players, one of which works a little and
the other not at all
:-)

I have a new cheap USB cassette player that works on the
unjammed cassettes, at least.

I was going to purchase one of those USB turntables to
digitize my album collection. Instead however, I just d/l'd
the albums, seeming as it's not illegal since I have purchased
the albums and do own them, so the d/l's are just backups of
what I already have physical media for. I'm also certain the
one's I d/l'd are digital from the start, instead of me having
to capture and post-process the album music for hiss & pops.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:58:56 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

[snip]

I'm going to go out on a long limb and make a guess that you guys who
haven't seen NSP (or USP) probably aren't very active in your NSP's
support newsgroup.

Nope with me. I just had not run across that particular TLA.
"newsserver" is what I have seen and used.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:54:35 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:03:27 -0700, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

Lightsucker is too dark for my taste, and thus, the name. As to
pink, I love the colour. I rarely wear a top that is not a shade of
pink. The polo T I have on right now is a colour called cherry
blossom. It is a medium pink. Pink goes well with quite a few
colours: brown (of similar darkness), whites and off-whites, and what
I call off-blacks (like charcoal).

Kind of OT, perhaps, but interesting to me is the fact that you're the
second guy I've heard of who isn't afraid to wear shades of pink, (the
other was a burly ex-Marine coworker who regularly dared people to
make fun of him), and you're the first guy I've heard of who wears a
"top". Thanks for expanding my brain just a bit today, I think.

I sometimes refer to light, cream pink as "safe pink" as it is
about the only pink most guys will wear. While I will wear most any
pink, I prefer darker pinks, especially fuschia. Since that is not a
manly colour snicker, I have only been able to get one, and that was
from a department store ladies' wear department, so "top".

I was bothered about my pink-wearing once by a couple of drunks.
Other people just take it in stride.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:51:30 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

I have had to provide a valid address to most or all of the servers I've
used recently so that they can send me credentials...

Yes, but have any of those NSP's required you to configure your news
client with that valid address, or any valid address? The valid
address is usually limited to what you said, providing you with your
credentials.

I meant what I said, no more than that.

I had to provide the news servers with an address where they could send
me the credentials so I could then log on.

This has nothing to do with the headers I create or cause to be created
when I post.

The context of my reply was a subthread about needing an e-mail address
to establish an account, not the other subthreads about the displayed
e-mail address.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:57:25 -0500, R. C. White wrote:
As I just told Ken in another post, this "RH Breener" is beginning to sound
an awful lot like "Valorie" of a year or two ago. :(

Oh god. I *knew* something seemed familiar.



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