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On 16 Mar 2014, Paul wrote in alt.windows7.general:

Especially if you edit the title of the bookmark
and insert your own tags. Then, later when you search,
you're much more likely to find what you want.

When I hit Ctrl+D to bookmark a page a dialog box pops up that lets me
edit the title and I almost always take advantage of it at that time.
Few web pages are titles sensibly.

On 16 Mar 2014 06:01:35 GMT, Nil wrote:

On 15 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

If you think hunting through open tabs is a chore, try hunting
through the same number of bookmarks.

I don't understand that. Firefox's bookmarks are easily searchable.
Ctrl+B and type your criteria. It's not a chore at all

I only bookmark pages that I expect to return to at a later time. Otherwise,
what's the point.

For me, the ratio of visited pages to bookmarked pages is something like
1000:1, and there's no practical way to tag the saved sites to such an
extent that I could immediately go back to each and every one of them
quickly and efficiently. It's so much easier, faster, and more efficient, to
simply leave the tab open until I'm done with that site.

On 16 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I only bookmark pages that I expect to return to at a later time.
Otherwise, what's the point.

For me, the ratio of visited pages to bookmarked pages is
something like 1000:1, and there's no practical way to tag the
saved sites to such an extent that I could immediately go back to
each and every one of them quickly and efficiently. It's so much
easier, faster, and more efficient, to simply leave the tab open
until I'm done with that site.

The point for me is that bookmarks are searchable. Customizing the tags
makes the searching easier and more reliable, but even if you don't do
that there's still a good chance you can find it with a search. And
then you can easily delete the bookmark when you don't need it any
more.

I don't think tabs are searchable out of the box, but I found an add-on
that adds that capability. With that your method might be useful to me,
but otherwise, not really.

Nil wrote:
On 16 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

I only bookmark pages that I expect to return to at a later time.
Otherwise, what's the point.

For me, the ratio of visited pages to bookmarked pages is
something like 1000:1, and there's no practical way to tag the
saved sites to such an extent that I could immediately go back to
each and every one of them quickly and efficiently. It's so much
easier, faster, and more efficient, to simply leave the tab open
until I'm done with that site.

The point for me is that bookmarks are searchable. Customizing the tags
makes the searching easier and more reliable, but even if you don't do
that there's still a good chance you can find it with a search. And
then you can easily delete the bookmark when you don't need it any
more.

I don't think tabs are searchable out of the box, but I found an add-on
that adds that capability. With that your method might be useful to me,
but otherwise, not really.

On Firefox, I have these options:

1) Keep window/tab open for a while (current search topic).
2) Bookmark things I know I'm going to need later for sure.
3) For things not worth crafting a bookmark with tags, I rely
on the searchable Firefox history buffer. As long as I don't
search for instances of "google.com", generally the search
result is unique enough, I only have to go through a handful
of hits to find the right one.

The most windows/tabs I've had open, was 76, while trying
to find a good digital TV homebrew antenna design. While that
one was going on, I would use Task Manager, to kill Firefox just
before hibernating, so there would be less of system memory to
write to the hiberfile. On next startup, Firefox would "restore
previous session", and open all the windows/tabs again.

Paul

On 3/17/2014 12:29 AM, Paul wrote:
... On next startup, Firefox would "restore
previous session", and open all the windows/tabs again.

Doesn't all browsers do this?

--
Bill
Dell Latitude Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 7 Pro SP1

BillW50 wrote:
On 3/17/2014 12:29 AM, Paul wrote:
... On next startup, Firefox would "restore
previous session", and open all the windows/tabs again.

Doesn't all browsers do this?

FWIW mine doesn't, but that's because I've told it not to. I prefer to
lose all the tabs when I close the window.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On 17 Mar 2014, Mike Barnes wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

BillW50 wrote:
Doesn't all browsers do this?

FWIW mine doesn't, but that's because I've told it not to. I
prefer to lose all the tabs when I close the window.

Nor does mine, for the same reason. It's a Firefox setting and whether
or not to re-open tabs is your choice.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 01:29:11 -0400, Paul wrote:

The most windows/tabs I've had open, was 76, while trying
to find a good digital TV homebrew antenna design. While that

Psst, there's no such thing as a "digital" antenna. ;-)

one was going on, I would use Task Manager, to kill Firefox just
before hibernating, so there would be less of system memory to
write to the hiberfile. On next startup, Firefox would "restore
previous session", and open all the windows/tabs again.

Task Manager works, but it's faster and easier to just use File-Exit to
shut Firefox down. Either way, you should achieve the same result.

On 3/17/2014 9:19 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
ter and easier to just use File-Exit to
shut Firefox down. Either way, you should achieve the same result.

It is easier to click the X in the upper right corner.

That is what I have done on every version of Firefox that I have used
since I believe version 2. I am currently using Firefox 27.0.1 on
Windows 8.1, and plan to up grade to the next version which will be
released in the next few hours.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:28:36 -0400, Nil wrote:

Nor does mine, for the same reason. It's a Firefox setting and
whether or not to re-open tabs is your choice.

No its a Tab Mix Plus setting.

On 16/02/2014 18:13, Juan Wei wrote:
OldGuy has written on 2/15/2014 10:15 PM:

I tried Thunderbird and it is very slow.

Not for me.

Thunderbird programmers do not seem to know how to code to release for
user actions. It locks itself up until it finishes what it wants to
do.

Example?

Not good programming. I cannot seem to stop what is happening or do
other simple tasks until TBird finishes.

Your computer locks up until TB finishes? Which version of Windows?
Which version of TB?

I am also finding that TB goes into 'Not Responding' mode at times when
I am wanting to flit between different news groups.

If I close down TB when I was last reading emails, TB starts up and
remembers what it was doing last time and loads my emails.

If the last time was reading news group messages, when TB is restarted
as it seems to remember what it was doing last time, it then goes into
Not Responding mode for a while.

My system is Win7 Pro, 16Gb ram, i5-3450 @ 3.10MHz cpu, and every other
program I choose to open runs fine with no lockups, so it is just TB
that is locking up.

Bob H wrote:
On 16/02/2014 18:13, Juan Wei wrote:
OldGuy has written on 2/15/2014 10:15 PM:

I tried Thunderbird and it is very slow.

Not for me.

Thunderbird programmers do not seem to know how to code to release for
user actions. It locks itself up until it finishes what it wants to
do.

Example?

Not good programming. I cannot seem to stop what is happening or do
other simple tasks until TBird finishes.

Your computer locks up until TB finishes? Which version of Windows?
Which version of TB?

I am also finding that TB goes into 'Not Responding' mode at times when
I am wanting to flit between different news groups.

If I close down TB when I was last reading emails, TB starts up and
remembers what it was doing last time and loads my emails.

If the last time was reading news group messages, when TB is restarted
as it seems to remember what it was doing last time, it then goes into
Not Responding mode for a while.

My system is Win7 Pro, 16Gb ram, i5-3450 @ 3.10MHz cpu, and every other
program I choose to open runs fine with no lockups, so it is just TB
that is locking up.

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

When I checked Thunderbird with Process Explorer, it had 32 threads
running, but that doesn't say how the threads are used.

I was trying to find a setting, where articles no longer on a USENET
server, would be removed from the .msf and .mdat files, but I can't find
such a thing. Unless it's a third party plugin. Removing the files
completely, makes too much of a mess (all articles Unread).

Paul

On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent folder. Not
sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new folders under the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be kept
(relatively) small.

Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent folder. Not
sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new folders under the
account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be kept
(relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a junk
folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash directly. I
also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

--
Blue

In ,
Blue typed:
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, Paul wrote:

A poster here, who was seeing hangs while composing, fixed it by
reducing the size of the Sent and Draft.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...29465&start=15

Not exactly. He deleted messages in Draft and split the Sent folder.
Not sure whether he made subfolders under Sent or new folders under
the account.

The point of the article was that it's the INBOX that has to be kept
(relatively) small.

I make sure that the Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft never have *any*
messages for very long and have never had a problem with freezing. I
created My Inbox and My Sent folders for storage. I don't have a junk
folder as I've configured it to send junk into the trash directly. I
also don't use TB for UseNet. I use Seamonkey for that.

Nothing in my Inbox, Trash, Sent and Draft and it doesn't help. Although
I can tell you the problem isn't there with v1.5.0.8. And it is
definitely there in v12, v14, and v24. So somewhere before v12 the
problem first started is my guess.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2