Win10 2004...disk space.

One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

On 21/06/2020 12:32, TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

Connect a USB drive (not stick) while you do the update and Windows will
put .old on that.

TheChief wrote:

One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

I thought 1903 and onwards reserve space for future upgrades, so you
shouldn't have an issue ...

On 6/21/2020 9:07 AM, MikeS wrote:
On 21/06/2020 12:32, TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully.Â* The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away.Â* My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/.Â* Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

Connect a USB drive (not stick) while you do the update and Windows will
put .old on that.

That's the first I've heard of that. Got a link?

Yousuf Khan

In article , Yousuf Khan
wrote:

One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully.* The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away.* My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/.* Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

Connect a USB drive (not stick) while you do the update and Windows will
put .old on that.

That's the first I've heard of that. Got a link?

if there's not enough space, windows will ask for another drive (which
can be a usb stick):

https://filestore.community.support....ges/e9dd93d3-d
802-4ba5-b27b-fe2087a6092a

Andy Burns wrote:

I thought 1903 and onwards reserve space for future upgrades, so you
shouldn't have an issue ...

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/storage-at-microsoft/windows-10-and-reserved-storage/ba-p/428327

Andy Burns wrote:

TheChief wrote:

One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004
update. That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or
if, that will work?

I thought 1903 and onwards reserve space for future upgrades, so you
shouldn't have an issue ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...eserve%20space

found:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-storage-works

which has a hyperlink pointing to:

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/...ge/ba-p/428327

However, since reserved storage consumes 7 GB on the drive, and since
the OP reports that only 8 GB is left, the OP has no or little free
space on the drive which shows poor file management. Get rid of
duplicated or superfluous data files, move data files to another
internal drive or to an external (USB) drive, or get a bigger drive and
clone to it. The 28 MB *.old folder is trivial if if the OP meant MB
instead of GB.

The OP has bigger problems with lack of free space. The recommendation
is to have, at a minimum, 10% of the drive as free space, and that does
not include the reserved (but as yet unused) space allocated to pagefile
space. Room must be left for temporary files, some of which are created
when using a program, or for startup programs. Defrag (which runs on
Windows startup and as a scheduled task whether you configure your own
scheduled run or not) needs space to move around clusters. Once under
20% free space, you should consider cleanup or a bigger drive.

https://www.howtogeek.com/324956/how...ur-windows-pc/
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...up-drive-space

With just 8 GB free, and assuming the OP is at an undersized minimum of
10% free, that means his drive is only 80 GB in size. While possible,
most retailers don't carry HDDs that small. The smallest at Newegg is
500 GB for $40 from Newegg ($24 from a reseller using Newegg as a
storefront). Skip the Burger King or MacDonald lunches, and you'll have
that in a week.

TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

You know the installer DVD, is around 4GB and uncompressed and
installed is 12GB. To a certain extent, the file system supports
the "new" compression format (it's not 7ZIP, but it's better than
LZO).

I was able to install in a 32GB partition (purely by accident,
I didn't check the size of C: before beginning), and that
completed OK. The OS has the option of turning off the
hibernation file if it wants.

It will create a new System Reserved. It could probably be
convinced to use an older one, if that partition was big
enough.

It is hard to guess what will happen, with the multitude of
pretend strings it can pull.

Before the "new" compression was added, I would have guessed
that not much could be done with 32GB eMMC devices. Microsoft
claimed that they thought they could do a "Lite" version of
the OS, that would fit on 16GB eMMC, but I haven't seen any
glossy announcement of that recently. Instead, I see more
"talk", but not "proof", that 64GB eMMC might be the new
norm.

There was a release where it would ask for a USB stick, but
there's no chit-chat about that in recent years. My 32GB install
didn't ask for a USB stick, but the physical drive had plenty of
room if it wanted to create and then delete, a separate partition
to finish the job. I don't think it does that, and one of those
tiny System Reserved is the extent to which it messes up
my GPT partitioned setup. (This causes the partition numbers
of all the partitions after that one, to change.)

If the install doesn't have enough space, it should
really tell you. But with the degree of testing this
release has received, I would not want to rely on
the automation, to make good decisions. Make a backup
before you let that Upgrade run, just in case. We can't
be spotting new bugs, at peoples expense, without a backup
to rely on. If they let five year old bugs sit around,
just about any ole alligator could be hiding in there.

I've seen the installer do clever things, but it's also
not consistent from one release to the next. And for eMMC
devices, they did change their strategy from some sort
of "overlay filesystem", to some other scheme. In an overlay
file system, the original DVD 4GB WIM file is copied to the
eMMC device, and any "file changes" are stored in a separate
place. Which is clever, except that the filesystem has a
tendency to fill up with those monthly Cumulatives to blame.
Whatever they're doing today, isn't likely to be that
much better for space management (they can compress both
the Windows.old and Windows materials file-by-file
if they want, that's an easy-to-do option).

Paul

On 6/21/2020 9:11 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 6/21/2020 9:07 AM, MikeS wrote:
On 21/06/2020 12:32, TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully.Â* The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away.Â* My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/.Â* Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

Connect a USB drive (not stick) while you do the update and Windows
will put .old on that.

That's the first I've heard of that. Got a link?

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yousuf Khan



Doubt that is true.

I have several partitions and the windows.old is always written to the
C: drive

TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?


With 8 gigabyte of free space you'll be able to put a lot of 28 megabyte
folders;-)

philo wrote:
On 6/21/2020 9:11 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 6/21/2020 9:07 AM, MikeS wrote:
On 21/06/2020 12:32, TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?

Connect a USB drive (not stick) while you do the update and Windows
will put .old on that.

That's the first I've heard of that. Got a link?

Yousuf Khan



Doubt that is true.

I have several partitions and the windows.old is always written to the
C: drive

I think when it uses the USB stick, it's for temporary storage
rearrangement. The materials should all end up on C: . It would
be bad manners to leave Windows.old on something where the user
could unplug it. You want all the materials together so "Revert"
will work (up until 10 days later).

Paul

In article , Paul
wrote:


Connect a USB drive (not stick) while you do the update and Windows
will put .old on that.

That's the first I've heard of that. Got a link?


Doubt that is true.

I have several partitions and the windows.old is always written to the
C: drive

I think when it uses the USB stick, it's for temporary storage
rearrangement. The materials should all end up on C: . It would
be bad manners to leave Windows.old on something where the user
could unplug it. You want all the materials together so "Revert"
will work (up until 10 days later).

microsoft states that to revert to the previous version, the usb stick
will need to be reconnected. since reverting is rarely done, that is
not an issue.

i've used a usb stick to upgrade (actually an sd card in a usb card
reader) but never looked to see what exactly was was written to it.

On 21/06/2020 17:55, Jim Dell wrote:
TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully.Â* The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away.Â* My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/.Â* Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?


With 8 gigabyte of free space you'll be able to put a lot of 28
megabyte folders;-)

You can double the number of folders by halving the folder sizes.

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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 12:55:01 -0400, Jim Dell
wrote:

TheChief wrote:
One of my Win10 machines completed the 2004 update successfully. The
is now a 28MB *.old directory on C:/, no problem, I know how to make
it go away. My second Win10 machine has not received the 2004 update.
That machine only has 8GB free on C:/. Any ideas on how, or if, that
will work?


With 8 gigabyte of free space you'll be able to put a lot of 28 megabyte
folders;-)

My error...the *.old folder is "28GB". Thanks to all for the
response. I have a USB HD attached, and a USB stick standing by. Will
let you know what happens....

The update happened this morning. And.....the answer is very
interesting.
50GB drive, with 8GB remaining. After the update there was 5GB
remaining, the windows.old directory was 4.34GB. The *.old directory
was automatically deleted...Message: "Your running low on storage,
the previous version was deleted. No change is space remaining on C:\
still setting at 5GB.