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"Lee Waun" wrote in message
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"relic" wrote in message
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Wait a minute, isn't that what you're supposed to do?


No, you only replace it when the ashtray is full....

Whoa... I was wondering why my car is so old, I quit smoking!
Thanks.

What if your car doesn't have an ashtray?

Does that mean you can never get rid of it?

My back yard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47661552@N00/3609275630/

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:16:08 +0000, choro wrote:


On 26/01/2011 15:03, Ken Blake wrote:


You might be interested in reading this article on partitioning I've
written: "Understanding Disk Partitioning" at
http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326


Excellent article actually.


Thanks very much for the kind words.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:26:58 +1100, John Morrison wrote:
I had a "Dell" computer

Why the quotes? It was labeled a Dell but turned out to be
counterfeit?

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:03:00 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
You might be interested in reading this article on partitioning I've
written: "Understanding Disk Partitioning" at
http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326


Nice article, Ken.

I've got three partitions: programs (including Windows), data I don't
back up, and data I do back up.

What data do I not back up? Data that are already on other media.
That includes my New Yorker cartoons and my American Heritage
Dictionary, since I still have the original CDs. It includes all my
student records from prior semesters, since I burn them to CD. And
it includes all my music, since it's on iPod.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:26:16 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:44:59 -0600, "Valorie *~"
wrote:

I wish I could help but I despise TB. It was confusing and had too many
bells and whistles. It lasted about a week on my PC. I bought a new PC
with W-7 last year and it's sitting under a dust cover because WLM sucks.
Basically I have no email/newsgroup software on it so it's of no use to us
and I can't return it. We looked and couldn't find anything better than OE
or WM like I have on this Vista machine. I can't understand why MS wont let
us use OE or WM on W-7 PCs. These are most likely the last MS PCs we'll
own.

With the multitudes of email clients and newsreaders to choose from, I
can't believe you weren't able to find something you can live with. I
suspect you gave up too early. Regarding email, what about web-based
email since you don't like any of the available clients?

Did you not notice whom you were replying to? :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:12:25 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:03:00 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
You might be interested in reading this article on partitioning I've
written: "Understanding Disk Partitioning" at
http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326


Nice article, Ken.


And thanks to you too, Stan.


I've got three partitions: programs (including Windows), data I don't
back up, and data I do back up.

What data do I not back up? Data that are already on other media.
That includes my New Yorker cartoons and my American Heritage
Dictionary, since I still have the original CDs. It includes all my
student records from prior semesters, since I burn them to CD. And
it includes all my music, since it's on iPod.


You don't do what I would do, but I understand your choices. They are
not unreasonable.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:26 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:26:16 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:44:59 -0600, "Valorie *~"
wrote:

I wish I could help but I despise TB. It was confusing and had too many
bells and whistles. It lasted about a week on my PC. I bought a new PC
with W-7 last year and it's sitting under a dust cover because WLM sucks.
Basically I have no email/newsgroup software on it so it's of no use to us
and I can't return it. We looked and couldn't find anything better than OE
or WM like I have on this Vista machine. I can't understand why MS wont let
us use OE or WM on W-7 PCs. These are most likely the last MS PCs we'll
own.

With the multitudes of email clients and newsreaders to choose from, I
can't believe you weren't able to find something you can live with. I
suspect you gave up too early. Regarding email, what about web-based
email since you don't like any of the available clients?

Did you not notice whom you were replying to? :-)

Yes, or at least I think so. I'm one of the few who hasn't plonked
this individual.

--

Char Jackson

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:31:37 -0800, "relic" wrote:


"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Folks, I have a stupid question. - After going to this newsgroup via
Thunderbird, I now find that I can't get back to Thunderbird. When I
click on the icon for TB, I can only get to this newsgroup. (So, I can't
see the accumulating mail on TB, and can't get to the list of other
newsgroups.) - I must have clicked on something I shouldn't have, but i
can't seem to resolve the problem. Does anyone have suggestions?

Jim

I wish I could help but I despise TB. It was confusing and had too many
bells and whistles. It lasted about a week on my PC. I bought a new PC
with W-7 last year and it's sitting under a dust cover because WLM sucks.
Basically I have no email/newsgroup software on it so it's of no use to us
and I can't return it. We looked and couldn't find anything better than
OE or WM like I have on this Vista machine. I can't understand why MS
wont let us use OE or WM on W-7 PCs. These are most likely the last MS
PCs we'll own.

How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7

http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx

From the "Every Good Idea Has Already Been Thought Of" department, I
thought someone should develop a Thunderbird skin that looks and feels
like OE in order to wean people off of the real OE and get them into a
much better email client.

Well, the good news is that it's already been done, but the bad news
is that it appears to have been abandoned.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/redmond-revisited/

--

Char Jackson

On 26/01/2011 17:33, chrisv wrote:

"Gordon" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2011 23:27, GreyCloud wrote:


comp.os.mac.advocacy is one, but it is a cesspool.

Same as comp.os.linux.advocacy - full of rabid anti-linux morons who
seem to spend so much time there posting lies and personal insults for
no other reason than they must be being sponsored to do so.


*plonk*

Oh goodee - I've been plonked by an imposter....

"Gordon" wrote in message
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On 26/01/2011 17:33, chrisv wrote:

"Gordon" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2011 23:27, GreyCloud wrote:


comp.os.mac.advocacy is one, but it is a cesspool.

Same as comp.os.linux.advocacy - full of rabid anti-linux morons who
seem to spend so much time there posting lies and personal insults for
no other reason than they must be being sponsored to do so.


*plonk*

Oh goodee - I've been plonked by an imposter....

Probably substituting for the other chrisv... or any of the dozen who
impersonate the original.

I believe if you're going to plonk someone, you'd have to post it as chrisv.
It's his signature work.

?
"Valorie *~" wrote in message
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"Tom Lake" wrote in message
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WLM works fine for me. I can read newsgroup messages, post to newsgroups
and have my replies automatically be put at the bottom of a message.
That's
all I require in a newsreader. WLM can also combine binary files that
are posted
in pieces although I don't use that facility too often. What features do
other
people need that WLM can't provide?

Tom L

Try having all email messages from all email accounts come into one place
like in OE and WM.

You can have as many email accounts on WLM as you want. New messages can be
accessed through each account's inbox, or all of them may be viewed together
in the All Inbox. As you can see, I'm not using the newest version because
it IS broke. MS really pulled a fast one by including Live Essentials
updates in Windows Update.

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
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"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2011 17:45, Jack wrote:

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2011 05:03, Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:00:48 -0700,
wrote:

So, is Windows Live Mail now the standard email client in Win7?

No, there is no standard email client in Win 7. Some vendors include
Windows Live Mail, but in that case it's the vendor doing it, not
Microsoft. As always, you're free to use any email client you'd like
to use.

And if they've included WLM, they'll have had to include all the
other
Live junk that comes with it.

No they don't have to, they can select only the Mail portion.

Char's post referred to the vendors. They have to include the other
Live programs. It is not possible to install WLM only, as all the
other Live progs are installed by default as well. You're stuck with
them using disk space whether you use them or not.




If they were pre-installed, you can remove any of the "Live" components
you want and leave the rest. Just go to Uninstall A Program in the
Control Panel, select Windows Live Essentials and right click |
Uninstall. At that point you are given the opportunity to check the
components you want to remove.

You can uninstall all but WLMail.

I downloaded (customized) WLM, but only Windows Live Essentials is shown
in 'Uninstall a Programme'. After what you said I r.c. on it and I get
'Uninstall/Change, but I did not go any further because the last thing I
want to do is lose my WLM. If I c. on it would I get the options which
you describe?


You *must* go one step further. Trust me. It will ask which programs you
want to remove.

That said, like everything else WM "Live", IMHO, that is a crappy way to
remove specific programs.

I did that with confidence, but was only given the option of removing
'MAIL'. I left well alone as I am happy with what I have, but now I know
what that is all about. Thanks a lot.

John Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:24:33 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

John Morrison wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:00:48 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

Now the situation is getting quite confusing.
The only reason I'm reading this newsgroup is because I'm considering
getting a win7 PC.
I can learn a lot from newsgroups about problems.
So, is Windows Live Mail now the standard email client in Win7?
Not necessarily, I still use the now defunct Eudora 7.1.0.9 for email,
Agent 6 for newsgroups and Opera as a browser.
Interesting. But see, I did find out new items to ponder.

On this old Sun Box, and getting long in the tooth, I'm getting little
support from Oracle since Sun sold out.
No more updates... nothing. So I'm looking to ditch this box.
You've been given some good advice, my above is just tit bits from me.
For me on this old sun box, getting other mail programs or browsers is
pretty limited now.
Even upgrading to a newer version of Thunderbird is a total pain to
install properly.

It sounds like you need to upgrade your computer now and certainly
before you install Windows 7.


I need to buy a complete new computer for that. I don't think windows 7
will run on a sparc.

I had a "Dell" computer on which I was running XP Pro. I never used
Vista but decided to go for Windows 7 Ultimate for which knew I needed a
new computer.

I bought a new computer and created 3 partitions: C: D: E: which has
been my practice for many years. IE: C: for the operating system, D: for
programs and E: for Music .

After I installed Win 7 to C: I copied my D: files from backup to D:
drive and E: files from backup to E: drive.

On D: drive some programs needed to be upgraded before they would work,
but at least all the programs retained their settings, although Eudora &
Agent after I created new shortcuts, started downloading without ever
having been installed.


--
"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
William G. McAdoo.
American Government official (1863-1941).

relic wrote:

"Gordon" wrote in message
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On 26/01/2011 17:33, chrisv wrote:

"Gordon" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2011 23:27, GreyCloud wrote:


comp.os.mac.advocacy is one, but it is a cesspool.

Same as comp.os.linux.advocacy - full of rabid anti-linux morons who
seem to spend so much time there posting lies and personal insults for
no other reason than they must be being sponsored to do so.


*plonk*

Oh goodee - I've been plonked by an imposter....

Probably substituting for the other chrisv... or any of the dozen who
impersonate the original.

I believe if you're going to plonk someone, you'd have to post it as
chrisv. It's his signature work.

LOL. In some respects, I find it hard to believe that they got this
badly 'programmed' over c.o.l.a.
I tinkered with linux for a while, but after time I found it to be
useless in many areas, such as multimedia.
That one area alone will make many just toss it out. I found only one
linux vendor that was useful to
some extent and that was suse 11.3, but then going to VLCs website, they
fortunately had a one click
download and install of their media player that actually worked right.
The rest of the user interface
is poor compared to Solaris 10.
I just need to just plop down some money on a new PC with win7 on it and
get on with business.
Over the years, I've found windows as the most usable over the long haul.
Once you see your company that you've been doing business with being
sold to another company...
it is time to start looking elsewhere, as the new company will
inevitably screw things up.


--
"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
William G. McAdoo.
American Government official (1863-1941).

"relic" wrote in message
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"Lee Waun" wrote in message
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"relic" wrote in message
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Wait a minute, isn't that what you're supposed to do?


No, you only replace it when the ashtray is full....

Whoa... I was wondering why my car is so old, I quit smoking!
Thanks.

What if your car doesn't have an ashtray?

Does that mean you can never get rid of it?

My back yard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47661552@N00/3609275630/


There are several cars in that lot I would love to have.