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Old November 14th 17, 01:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Creators Update: 0 for 2 :(

mechanic wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 01:11:13 -0500, Paul wrote:

I can relate a funny story about Win10 install. I originally had a
data partition, one where I'd formatted NTFS with 32K clusters,
instead of 4K clusters. I didn't even think about it at the time,
and did a Win10 install (apparently without the partition being
reformatted) right into that partition....


Why would the installer worry about the cluster size? Files don't
care, do they?


NTFS compression and encryption don't work unless
the cluster size is the default 4KB. But why that
should affect the install, I couldn't begin to guess.
Especially as it had worked for so many Insider
updates previous to that.

I presume a utility like "compact" would throw
an error if you tried to use it on a 32KB cluster
NTFS partition. The utility "cleanmgr", for one
of its tick boxes, decides to NTFS compress some files
in winsxs. That's an example of where there might
be a dependency. But would an OS installer run
cleanmgr ? I hope not.

compact /?

Compact is an evil piece of crap, because the person
who wrote it, neglected to preserve all the properties
of the file being compacted. Which means that everyone
else who needs to use it, has to do a lot of extra work
to tidy up afterwards. Like, if a file is owned
by TrustedInstaller, if I run Compact, it ends up
being owned by me. This is not typically what you
expect of such a transformation. You just want the
thing compressed, not "ruined".

Paul
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Old November 14th 17, 07:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Creators Update: 0 for 2 :(

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:42:12 -0600 "Rene Lamontagne"
wrote in article
Well in about 4 hours I had the system up and running and reinstalled
his 4 or 5 major programs, The little programs and utilities he could
install at his leisure.
So what seemed a gargantuan job wasn't half as bad as anticipated
and he now has a faster cleaner system without all that Win 7 and 8
cruft dragging along.
HTH

Rene


I think "cruft" is the keyword here... This machine was upgraded from Win
7 to Win 10. The upgrade wasn't terrible but wasn't without some issues,
mostly having to do with drivers, USB3 in particular. Once I got past that
it went smoothly. Now I'm wondering if something (cruft!) left over from
that is causing my troubles. (I say that because I also have a laptop that
went from 7-10 and am having similar trouble updating it 'tho the
symptoms are different and I think I have a handle on what's wrong.)

I have a lot more than 4 or 5 major programs that I depend on, so from-
scratch looks daunting. I may try it though since I too have full-system
backups that can undo any mess I make pretty quickly.

Thanks
Jason
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Old November 15th 17, 03:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Creators Update: 0 for 2 :(

On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:25:09 -0500 "Ben Myers"
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Wondering if you have tried the "Update Assistant".

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

Ben


I have. No joy...

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Old November 15th 17, 04:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default Creators Update: 0 for 2 :(

On 15/11/2017 02:41, Jason wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:25:09 -0500 "Ben Myers"
wrote in article

Wondering if you have tried the "Update Assistant".

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

Ben

I have. No joy...


Have you tried to rename your SoftwareDistribution folder to
SoftwareDistribution-old?

To do this, _*disable Windows Update from the Services App*_ and then go to:

C;:\Windows\

Look for SoftwareDistribution folder and just rename it.

Now _*go back to Services App and enable Windows Update. *_ Then restart
the machine and voila all your outstanding updates will install without
problems.

You also have to worry about today's updates (November 14th Updates)

If this doesn't work then clearly you'll need to pay somebody to fix
your machine. You may not have the necessary skills or tenacity to
handle this.






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