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  #16  
Old August 23rd 15, 06:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
A.M
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On 2015-08-23 12:50 PM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.


While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.
Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without gratuitous
insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you aren't appending a
bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.


I have enough confidence in Microsoft's product that when someone tells
me "I'm switching to Linux," I can laugh and pretty much just tell him
that it's a short matter of time before they're back. Use Mint if you
want, that's fine. As long as you're not dumb enough to claim that it's
"as good" as Windows, you have my respect.


--
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  #17  
Old August 23rd 15, 06:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:16:50 -0400
"A.M" wrote:

On 2015-08-23 11:36 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400
"A.M" wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be
using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll
be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to
stick to it.


In November, it will be two years that I have been using Linux Mint
full time.

Have you ever seen me post here in the last two years using Windows?


I haven't paid attention to your posts at all. This might sound
shocking to you, but you're not that interesting.

Like I said, I still consider Linux to be trash but I'm happy that
it's working out so well for you.



No wonder you infest Linux groups...

  #18  
Old August 23rd 15, 06:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Stef
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A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.


While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


I'm curious: What are your reasons for despising Linux so much?

When was the last time you really took Linux for a thorough test drive?

What versions have you tried lately?

I have no intentions of disputing your reasons or converting you
to Linux. Your choice is your choice. So, feel free to elaborate all
you want. I'm just curious.

As to my preference: I'm a 15 year Linux user having migrated from the
Amiga -- never did the PC/DOS/Windows thing. I chose Linux over
Windows, among other OSes, as Linux was the most like Amiga Workbench
3.1 at the time -- fast, stable, good choice of apps, etc. Also, I spent
a lot of time "fixing" software problems on friends' Window's machines
(and still do) that it engendered a lack of confidence in Window's
stability and reliability. An opinion I still hold to this day.

Do I use Windows? Yes. For those few things I have no other
choice -- usually due to someone else's mandate. I run XP (a legal
copy) in VirtualBox on this Linux box.

Stef


  #19  
Old August 23rd 15, 07:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Joel
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"A.M" wrote:

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

--
A.M
Your pet's opinion on technology is more valid than that of a Linux advocate



Linux advocacy is a demanding task. They have to explain why a loose
group of developers are capable of creating something to rival the
cutting edge of software technology, which is Windows. Microsoft
simply has had the market cornered - even Windows 9x, for all its
faults, had the most advanced interface of the time. By now,
Windows 7/8/10 is indisputably the champion of PC OSes, not just in
terms of how many people use it, but in terms of the level of
sophistication of the software.

--
Joel Crump
  #20  
Old August 23rd 15, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:
My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.
Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without gratuitous
insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you aren't appending a
bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.


I don't mind suggesting to someone

Try the LiveCD and see if you like it

However, I draw the line at gratuitous suggestions
that people should "just install Linux over Windows
right away". As then, when they don't like what happened
and they want Windows back again, they're totally unprepared
and they end up coming back here for help.

Of course, nobody is smart enough to do backups.
They don't even do backups here, before
installing Windows 10 :-( Despite all the
friendly advice.

As long as you suggest "side effect free" things
here, I don't have a problem with it. I do have
a problem with juveniles who create destructive
recipes for people who don't know any better. And
I still see people (even yesterday), planning
to test Linux by installing it first. You can
boot the LiveCD and test stuff. You can
boot a LiveCD in a Virtual Machine (VirtualBox)
and test it too. I did that just ten minutes ago.
There are many (undestructive) options.

Paul
  #21  
Old August 23rd 15, 10:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
A.M
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On 2015-08-23 1:32 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:16:50 -0400
"A.M" wrote:

On 2015-08-23 11:36 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400
"A.M" wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be
using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll
be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to
stick to it.


In November, it will be two years that I have been using Linux Mint
full time.

Have you ever seen me post here in the last two years using Windows?


I haven't paid attention to your posts at all. This might sound
shocking to you, but you're not that interesting.

Like I said, I still consider Linux to be trash but I'm happy that
it's working out so well for you.



No wonder you infest Linux groups...


I "infest" those groups because they contain lying hypocrites like you.
Tell me again how _you_ never faced screen tearing problems in Linux so
all of the complaints on the web are all lies as a result, you Serbian
sperm rag.


--
A.M
Your pet's opinion on technology is more valid than that of a Linux advocate
  #22  
Old August 23rd 15, 10:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
A.M
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On 2015-08-23 1:43 PM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.


While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


I'm curious: What are your reasons for despising Linux so much?


The constant lies of their advocates, their disparaging remarks towards
me (calling _me_ a liar) when I'm telling the truth *AND* providing
evidence, the fact that gaming on Linux causes screen tearing, the fact
that the machine refuses to wake from sleep because ACPI is awful, the
fact that a machine won't shut down, the fact that much of its software
doesn't work as it should or has features which don't actually work or
produce corrupt results, etc..

When was the last time you really took Linux for a thorough test drive?


Last year. I've sworn never to use it again after the final miserable
experience it provided.

What versions have you tried lately?


Last one was Ubuntu 14.10.

I have no intentions of disputing your reasons or converting you
to Linux. Your choice is your choice. So, feel free to elaborate all
you want. I'm just curious.

As to my preference: I'm a 15 year Linux user having migrated from the
Amiga -- never did the PC/DOS/Windows thing. I chose Linux over
Windows, among other OSes, as Linux was the most like Amiga Workbench
3.1 at the time -- fast, stable, good choice of apps, etc. Also, I spent
a lot of time "fixing" software problems on friends' Window's machines
(and still do) that it engendered a lack of confidence in Window's
stability and reliability. An opinion I still hold to this day.

Do I use Windows? Yes. For those few things I have no other
choice -- usually due to someone else's mandate. I run XP (a legal
copy) in VirtualBox on this Linux box.


I would have loved to use an Amiga or an Atari back then but my first
real PC (only had a TI994/A before that) was an IBM PS/1 286 in 1991. I
watched the platform evolve from then and watched Windows become better
with each version (started with 3.0, then 3.1, then 95, then 98, 98SE,
ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10). I've also used OS/2 and
experimented with Linux since Slackware in 1994. Every single time I
install Linux, I am disappointed by how shoddy the code is in comparison
to what Microsoft offers. Only in the 9x era could Linux compete and
even then it was worse than what Microsoft was making.


--
A.M
Your pet's opinion on technology is more valid than that of a Linux advocate
  #23  
Old August 23rd 15, 10:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:36:31 -0500, Johnny wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400
"A.M" wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which
ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be
using Linux Mint from now on.


While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back
soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


In November, it will be two years that I have been using Linux Mint
full time.

Have you ever seen me post here in the last two years using Windows?


Just out of curiousity, if you have been running Mint for two years
full time, what is this Windows 8.1 machine that you have? You make it
sound like you have just recently decided to move to linux. Inquiring
minds want to know
  #24  
Old August 23rd 15, 11:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 23/08/2015 17:50, Dave Cohen wrote:
Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7 Professional.



And still you haven't learnt how to upgrade your newsreader!! what sort
of Jewish boy you are? Thunderbird is free and it fits very well with
your big nose. Do you remember you told us you like free things like
free air. TB is free and the reason you have big nose is because the
air is free. Try Tb and see what else becomes enlarged.

Try to be a good Jewish boy that your mother can be proud of.

HTML is stuffed at the end for you, it is still free of charge. Make use
of it while it lasts.



  #25  
Old August 23rd 15, 11:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 23/08/2015 22:46, Steve wrote:
Just out of curiousity, if you have been running Mint for two years
full time, what is this Windows 8.1 machine that you have? You make it
sound like you have just recently decided to move to linux. Inquiring
minds want to know


Are you stupid? He wants to come back to Windows. He doesn't like
Linux. Who does anyway?

Linux users are lonely and miserable. They haven't known the real world
outside of their bedroom.

  #26  
Old August 23rd 15, 11:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Johnny
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:46:31 -0700
Steve wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:36:31 -0500, Johnny wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400
"A.M" wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right
now. I had updates set to download the updates but to let me
choose which ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to
install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be
using Linux Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand
your frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll
be back soon enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to
stick to it.


In November, it will be two years that I have been using Linux Mint
full time.

Have you ever seen me post here in the last two years using Windows?


Just out of curiousity, if you have been running Mint for two years
full time, what is this Windows 8.1 machine that you have? You make it
sound like you have just recently decided to move to linux. Inquiring
minds want to know


Last November I bought two computers, one a Dell laptop with Windows
8.1, the other an HP with Windows 7. I installed Linux Mint along side
the existing operating system on both computers, and just kept up with
the Windows updates. I had been using Linux Mint for about nine months
at that time.

I never used Windows 8.1, because just looking at it was disgusting.

I really liked Windows 7, but Microsoft is going abandon it, and sell
Windows as a service, and I can't accept that, and I won't agree to
their terms of use.

I have made restore disks for both computers, if I decided to sell
them, or give them away, because I know most people use Windows.

What I didn't know at the time, was that I could have bought that Dell
with Linux installed.
  #27  
Old August 24th 15, 01:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usenet.kooks
Cujo DeSockpuppet
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-= Hawk =- wrote in
web.com:

On 23 Aug 2015 11:41:47 GMT, Bucky Breeder
scribbled:

-= Hawk =- posted this via
raweb.com:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:54:42 -0500, Johnny
scribbled:


My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which
ones to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing
Windows 7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be
using Linux Mint from now on.

And who's supposed to care?


Yer mama, apparently. As an obviously deformed and mentally ill
thalidomide baby from the '60s, she didn't abort you, now did she?
But that was probably mainly because of the welfare checks and food
stamps she would have missed out on to support her crack and heroin
habits if she'd just flushed you once and for all back then. Alas,
hindsight, ehhh?


Do you just cut and past these?

Oh, hey, hi AUK! Any of the old crowd around?


Your buddy Emmett Gulley is back in prison for stalking. SSDD.


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  #28  
Old August 24th 15, 02:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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On 8/23/2015 11:49 AM, Paul wrote:
Dave Cohen wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:08:02 -0400, A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:
My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install
them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.
While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


Well I'm someone and I use Linux Mint alongside Windows 7
Professional. Surely people are free to use whatever they wish without
gratuitous insults from people like you and Old Guy. At least you
aren't appending a bunch of HTML code at the end of your post.


I don't mind suggesting to someone

Try the LiveCD and see if you like it

However, I draw the line at gratuitous suggestions
that people should "just install Linux over Windows
right away". As then, when they don't like what happened
and they want Windows back again, they're totally unprepared
and they end up coming back here for help.

Of course, nobody is smart enough to do backups.
They don't even do backups here, before
installing Windows 10 :-( Despite all the
friendly advice.

As long as you suggest "side effect free" things
here, I don't have a problem with it. I do have
a problem with juveniles who create destructive
recipes for people who don't know any better. And
I still see people (even yesterday), planning
to test Linux by installing it first. You can
boot the LiveCD and test stuff. You can
boot a LiveCD in a Virtual Machine (VirtualBox)
and test it too. I did that just ten minutes ago.
There are many (undestructive) options.

Paul

That's good advice, but not all inclusive.
A working live linux is a good start but does not
guarantee a working full install. If you have an
nvidia card, you'll soon find out.
Then there's the issue of the linux onion of frustration.
The deeper you go the more stuff you find. At some point,
you may decide to give up and spend your time doing something
you enjoy.

A full image backup that allows you to go back is
ESSENTIAL for any newbie attempts at converting to linux.


If you have enough ram and disk space, a virtual machine
is a great place to get your feet wet with linux.
Be aware that the virtual machine presents a hardware
configuration that's both limited and fixed.
Working in a VM does not guarantee you'll be hassle free
when you install it on the bare hardware.

Even better is a second linux computer that you can learn
without impacting your existing stuff.
  #29  
Old August 24th 15, 06:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Stef
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A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-23 1:43 PM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.


I'm curious: What are your reasons for despising Linux so much?


The constant lies of their advocates, their disparaging remarks towards
me (calling _me_ a liar) when I'm telling the truth *AND* providing
evidence, the fact that gaming on Linux causes screen tearing, the fact
that the machine refuses to wake from sleep because ACPI is awful, the
fact that a machine won't shut down, the fact that much of its software
doesn't work as it should or has features which don't actually work or
produce corrupt results, etc..


That's why I never deal with "advocates" on any subject. Adocates is
the polite term. Fanatical fanatics is more the truth. Totally
unreasonable.

I've never had any of the problems you describe. Doesn't mean they
don't happen. I read and help others (predominately newbies) who are
having them, just that I don't have them.

As far as gaming, I can't speak to that since I don't game -- okay,
chess, and scrabble every once-in-awhile, but in any case, I regard
Linux unsuited for most games, particularly the action, shoot-em up,
3D stuff. Linux is just not suitable for cutting edge hardware. When
building a system, I always make sure that ALL the hardware has been
available for at least six months. Gives the developer community time
to write drivers, etc. for it.

When was the last time you really took Linux for a thorough test drive?


Last year. I've sworn never to use it again after the final miserable
experience it provided.

What versions have you tried lately?


Last one was Ubuntu 14.10.


I've never like Ubuntu since the day it was released, and I tested it
for two weeks before uninstalling it. Never tried it again. Although,
it seems to be one of the most popular distros, it's too non-standard
Linux for me.

I have no intentions of disputing your reasons or converting you
to Linux. Your choice is your choice. So, feel free to elaborate all
you want. I'm just curious.

As to my preference: I'm a 15 year Linux user having migrated from the
Amiga -- never did the PC/DOS/Windows thing. I chose Linux over
Windows, among other OSes, as Linux was the most like Amiga Workbench
3.1 at the time -- fast, stable, good choice of apps, etc. Also, I spent
a lot of time "fixing" software problems on friends' Window's machines
(and still do) that it engendered a lack of confidence in Window's
stability and reliability. An opinion I still hold to this day.

Do I use Windows? Yes. For those few things I have no other
choice -- usually due to someone else's mandate. I run XP (a legal
copy) in VirtualBox on this Linux box.


I would have loved to use an Amiga or an Atari back then but my first
real PC (only had a TI994/A before that) was an IBM PS/1 286 in 1991. I
watched the platform evolve from then and watched Windows become better
with each version (started with 3.0, then 3.1, then 95, then 98, 98SE,
ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10). I've also used OS/2 and
experimented with Linux since Slackware in 1994. Every single time I
install Linux, I am disappointed by how shoddy the code is in comparison
to what Microsoft offers. Only in the 9x era could Linux compete and
even then it was worse than what Microsoft was making.


The Amiga was years ahead of its time. Too bad Commodore didn't
recognize that, and develop and market it business. Instead, they
hyped it as a super game machine. What a waste. You must
remember, at the time, PCs were still using DOS. There was no Windows.
And here's the Amiga with a full GUI. Commodore sure dropped the ball
and shot themselves in the foot on that one.

Thanks for your response.

Stef


  #30  
Old August 24th 15, 01:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2015-08-24 1:00 AM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-23 1:43 PM, Stef wrote:
A.M wrote:

On 2015-08-22 3:54 PM, Johnny wrote:

My computer with Windows 8.1 is downloading Windows 10 right now. I
had updates set to download the updates but to let me choose which ones
to install.

So while it's downloading, I checked my update settings, and sure
enough, it was still set to only check for updates, not to install them.

I am removing Windows 8.1 from that computer, and I'm removing Windows
7 Professional from another computer, and I will only be using Linux
Mint from now on.

While I still consider Linux to be absolute trash, I understand your
frustration and desire to check out the competition. You'll be back soon
enough though; Linux is just too awful for anyone to stick to it.

I'm curious: What are your reasons for despising Linux so much?


The constant lies of their advocates, their disparaging remarks towards
me (calling _me_ a liar) when I'm telling the truth *AND* providing
evidence, the fact that gaming on Linux causes screen tearing, the fact
that the machine refuses to wake from sleep because ACPI is awful, the
fact that a machine won't shut down, the fact that much of its software
doesn't work as it should or has features which don't actually work or
produce corrupt results, etc..


That's why I never deal with "advocates" on any subject. Adocates is
the polite term. Fanatical fanatics is more the truth. Totally
unreasonable.

I've never had any of the problems you describe. Doesn't mean they
don't happen. I read and help others (predominately newbies) who are
having them, just that I don't have them.

As far as gaming, I can't speak to that since I don't game -- okay,
chess, and scrabble every once-in-awhile, but in any case, I regard
Linux unsuited for most games, particularly the action, shoot-em up,
3D stuff. Linux is just not suitable for cutting edge hardware. When
building a system, I always make sure that ALL the hardware has been
available for at least six months. Gives the developer community time
to write drivers, etc. for it.


Which is why I always recommend that people who have very small
requirements out of a computer or who use old hardware install Linux.
Windows just seems pointless to someone who insists on keeping a machine
from 2007. It'll work, but you'll probably prefer Linux just because a)
you won't have to pay for software which is something you probably don't
do anyway, b) you'll get to keep your hardware for an even longer period
of time because it will just never seem too slow.

When was the last time you really took Linux for a thorough test drive?


Last year. I've sworn never to use it again after the final miserable
experience it provided.

What versions have you tried lately?


Last one was Ubuntu 14.10.


I've never like Ubuntu since the day it was released, and I tested it
for two weeks before uninstalling it. Never tried it again. Although,
it seems to be one of the most popular distros, it's too non-standard
Linux for me.


I only installed that one because I figured that it had the best chance
of doing a good job with all of my hardware. When I noticed that games
tore the screen in Unity, I installed Ubuntu-GNOME instead especially
since I like the GNOME interface. The problem persisted there. You can
imagine how strong my desire to continue using Linux was after that.

I have no intentions of disputing your reasons or converting you
to Linux. Your choice is your choice. So, feel free to elaborate all
you want. I'm just curious.

As to my preference: I'm a 15 year Linux user having migrated from the
Amiga -- never did the PC/DOS/Windows thing. I chose Linux over
Windows, among other OSes, as Linux was the most like Amiga Workbench
3.1 at the time -- fast, stable, good choice of apps, etc. Also, I spent
a lot of time "fixing" software problems on friends' Window's machines
(and still do) that it engendered a lack of confidence in Window's
stability and reliability. An opinion I still hold to this day.

Do I use Windows? Yes. For those few things I have no other
choice -- usually due to someone else's mandate. I run XP (a legal
copy) in VirtualBox on this Linux box.


I would have loved to use an Amiga or an Atari back then but my first
real PC (only had a TI994/A before that) was an IBM PS/1 286 in 1991. I
watched the platform evolve from then and watched Windows become better
with each version (started with 3.0, then 3.1, then 95, then 98, 98SE,
ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10). I've also used OS/2 and
experimented with Linux since Slackware in 1994. Every single time I
install Linux, I am disappointed by how shoddy the code is in comparison
to what Microsoft offers. Only in the 9x era could Linux compete and
even then it was worse than what Microsoft was making.


The Amiga was years ahead of its time. Too bad Commodore didn't
recognize that, and develop and market it business. Instead, they
hyped it as a super game machine. What a waste. You must
remember, at the time, PCs were still using DOS. There was no Windows.
And here's the Amiga with a full GUI. Commodore sure dropped the ball
and shot themselves in the foot on that one.


Once the Genesis came out, the Amiga must have seemed pretty obsolete.
After all, both were capable of doing more or less the same thing
game-wise and the Genesis cost a lot less and had better games. the
Super NES must have been the final nail in the coffin. It's too bad that
Jack Tramiel was no longer there to push them in the right direction and
that Atari and Amiga never realize that they had a better chance if they
worked together to topple the giant rather than try to hurt each other
in the mid-range market.


--
A.M
Your pet's opinion on technology is more valid than that of a Linux advocate
 




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