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Old May 5th 17, 01:35 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John & Jane Doe
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

How does a long time WinXP user clean up a Win7 desktop with Win10
installed without losing Windows 10 in the process?

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact

I am a long time Windows XP user who just bought an HP desktop at a yard
sale that has stickers for Windows 7 but that has Windows 10 installed
(complete details to be placed in a followup post).

The desktop came with a single user with admin privileges so I created a
new user since the original user is already using up all but 380GB of the
930GB HDD.

If I had Windows 10 disks, I would start with a fresh format and install of
Windows 10 - but I don't have any media whatsoever and the original media
would have been Windows 7 anyway.

Do I need to save some kind of serial number before I format and start
over?

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact
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Old May 5th 17, 01:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John & Jane Doe
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact


Here is a picture of the new (to me) Windows 10 desktop.
https://s27.postimg.org/udef4ncoz/image.gif

This post is just to explain the specifications as I know them to be.

Windows 10 Pro version 1511
(but the sticker says Windows 7 Home Premium OA 64 bit)

HP Pavilion Model P6230Y. AMD Phenom II 810. 16GB RAM, 930GB HDD
ATI Radeon HD 4200

There is only one user but the 930GB HDD only has 380GB space left.
I don't want any of her stuff but I want to be careful what I delete.

What I really want to do is wipe everything out and start over but I don't
want to lose the existing Windows 10 license.

At the moment, I created a new user (which you see in the photo as it took
a long time on the first login for some reason).

The only odd thing, so far, is that I can't find the Wi-Fi settings because
this computer was apparently always on the Ethernet whereas for me it will
likely be on Wi-Fi so it hasn't been on the net yet.

Since I loved Windows XP, and I since skipped Windows 7, 8, and 9 (or
whatever the versions were), I will have a steep learning curve (I can tell
already by clicking about).

The main question right now is how best to proceed to get rid of all the
stuff from the previous owner WITHOUT destroying the Windows 10 license?
  #3  
Old May 5th 17, 02:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

On 05/05/2017 01:35, John & Jane Doe wrote:
How does a long time WinXP user clean up a Win7 desktop with Win10
installed without losing Windows 10 in the process?

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact


Windows XP user or no Windows XP user, the easiest and fastest way to
wipe everything but keeping Windows 10 OS is by wiping everything,
deleting the partitions and reinstalling Windows 10. This works if you
have already installed Windows 10 once on the same machine and you have
obtained a digital license for that machine.

Windows 10 OS ISO files can be downloaded free of charge from Microsoft
website. Doing this way is to make sure all known and unknown viruses
are cleaned from the machine but as you unsure of what you are doing,, I
suspect, you may need a lot of hand-holding as you go along doing this.

THIS METHOD WIPES EVERYTHING FROM THE HD SO DON'T TRY IT UNLESS THIS IS
WHAT YOU MEANT BY "Wipe out everything not needed "



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Old May 5th 17, 02:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

John & Jane Doe wrote:
My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact


Here is a picture of the new (to me) Windows 10 desktop.
https://s27.postimg.org/udef4ncoz/image.gif

This post is just to explain the specifications as I know them to be.

Windows 10 Pro version 1511
(but the sticker says Windows 7 Home Premium OA 64 bit)

HP Pavilion Model P6230Y. AMD Phenom II 810. 16GB RAM, 930GB HDD
ATI Radeon HD 4200

There is only one user but the 930GB HDD only has 380GB space left.
I don't want any of her stuff but I want to be careful what I delete.

What I really want to do is wipe everything out and start over but I don't
want to lose the existing Windows 10 license.

At the moment, I created a new user (which you see in the photo as it took
a long time on the first login for some reason).

The only odd thing, so far, is that I can't find the Wi-Fi settings because
this computer was apparently always on the Ethernet whereas for me it will
likely be on Wi-Fi so it hasn't been on the net yet.

Since I loved Windows XP, and I since skipped Windows 7, 8, and 9 (or
whatever the versions were), I will have a steep learning curve (I can tell
already by clicking about).

The main question right now is how best to proceed to get rid of all the
stuff from the previous owner WITHOUT destroying the Windows 10 license?


Your computer has a motherboard, with what is
effectively a serial number (to make this explanation
a bit simpler to understand).

When the previous user took advantage of the free upgrade
offer, to go from a copy of Windows 7 to Windows 10, the
computer was registered on a Microsoft server. A "digital
entitlement" entry was created.

At any future time, if the Win10 OS is clean installed using
a downloadable DVD (available for free from Microsoft), the
instant the machine gets on the network, it sends its
serial number to the server at Microsoft. The server at
Microsoft says "oh, I've seen this machine before, and
you got the free upgrade from me". And your OS is
then activated again. So the fact the machine was
activated the first time, is remembered on the server end.
Any future install of Win10, should re-activate, based
on the physical evidence presented (serial number).

When does this stop working ? If you change too much hardware
inside the computer. If you burned out the motherboard and
had to replace it, the "digital entitlement" might be ruined
by that. But otherwise, you should be able to clean
install without an issue.

*******

The next topic is backups. Do you use backup software ?
Do you have an external drive to store backups ?

Maintaining a computer is easy, if you have backup
images. If you make a mistake, you can restore from
backup. The size of the image, is only as large as
the size of the file set. So if you had a 2TB drive
with 300GB of files, the backup takes 300GB of space.
In that example, you'd need a 500GB drive for the
external storage media, as a convenient minimum size.

Free backup software is available. When prompted, you
do want to make the emergency boot CD, which helps
if you entirely ruin the OS on the hard drive :-)

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

Yes, the CNET download is clean... The emergency
boot CD can use one of four WinPE versions, and
WinPE5 or WinPE10 should be good for most purposes.

*******

You can download a 15063 Creator DVD (the latest version)
and do a clean install if you want. There will be no
memory of Windows 7 at all.

As it stands now, the machine could have a recovery partition
(12 to 15GB) with a clean copy of Windows 7 with drivers in it.
With the press of the right F-key at startup, you may be able
to re-install Windows 7 again if the need arises. If you
"blast" all the partitions on the drive during your Windows
clean install adventure, that copy of Windows 7 would be lost.
Just don't delete all the structure on the disk, if you
want to keep materials like that for later.

To learn more about your install, there are some
commands you can execute.

This one works as an ordinary user.

winver

The following one, you might want to run a Command Prompt
with Run As Administrator. This was easy on the older
versions of Win10, as right-clicking start had
the Administrator Command Prompt in it. In 15063,
there is a setting in the Setting gear wheel, to
put that item back in the menu. Alternately, type
"cmd" into Cortana search hole, right-click the
top entry returned, and select "Run As Administrator"
to launch an administrator command prompt. Then...

slmgr /dlv

And that will show more details.

That shows the current activation/licensing info. The
license key is generic (when a Digital Entitlement
has been used and not a "real" purchased key), so for
the most part, the license key is useless in such
cases.

This picture shows my output on a Win10 Pro x64 install.
Likely a "digital entitlement" as I would not be buying
the retail version.

https://s13.postimg.org/ivl5bjcxz/whats_my_OS.gif

HTH,
Paul
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Old May 5th 17, 02:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

On 5/4/2017 7:35 PM, John & Jane Doe wrote:
How does a long time WinXP user clean up a Win7 desktop with Win10
installed without losing Windows 10 in the process?

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact

I am a long time Windows XP user who just bought an HP desktop at a yard
sale that has stickers for Windows 7 but that has Windows 10 installed
(complete details to be placed in a followup post).

The desktop came with a single user with admin privileges so I created a
new user since the original user is already using up all but 380GB of the
930GB HDD.

If I had Windows 10 disks, I would start with a fresh format and install of
Windows 10 - but I don't have any media whatsoever and the original media
would have been Windows 7 anyway.

Do I need to save some kind of serial number before I format and start
over?

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact


One way to create the download media is the link found at;
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

You should be able to either download the installer on a flash drive or
download the ISO file and burn a DVD.

A fresh install is nothing more than booting from your new downloaded
media and following the menu's.

If one just wanted to update but not start windows 10 from scratch then
you would boot the PC AS IS with the new media unplugged or not in the
drive. Then insert the downloaded media and go to that drive and run
the setup program.

Booting the setup program is for a totally fresh install while running
the setup after Windows 10 has booted is how one could update an
existing copy of Windows 10.

If my memory is still working both should give you the option of keeping
everything the user left behind or erasing things and just updating
windows. If I'm wrong I'm sure others here will jump in and set things
straight for you. Just give it an hour to see what the other have to
say before upgrading things.
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Old May 5th 17, 03:03 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

On Fri, 5 May 2017 00:50:14 -0000 (UTC), John & Jane Doe wrote:

The main question right now is how best to proceed to get rid of all the
stuff from the previous owner WITHOUT destroying the Windows 10 license?


If the Win10 OS is a legitimate install it should already be activated
with a digital license linked to the Microsoft account you're using.
That means you can wipe the drive, install a fresh copy of Windows 10,
and it should automatically activate once you verify yourself as a user.
Still, if you want to be safe, use the Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder:

Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder
https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/

This will get you both the installed OS product ID as well as the 25
character CD Key. The CD Key is what you really want. You can use the
program to save the information to a text file or print it out. Or
both.

Next you'll want to get the Windows 10 media. Use the Media Creation
Tool to make a bootable DVD or USB flash drive. You can also use the
tool to just download the Win10 .iso and install from the

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Have the new Win10 install wipe everything from the drive before
installation and use the saved CD Key to activate it if you need to.

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I don't mean to impose,
but I am the Ocean."

~ The Salton Sea
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Old May 5th 17, 03:16 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

On 5/4/2017 8:50 PM, John & Jane Doe wrote:
only one user but the 930GB HDD only has 380GB space left.
I don't want any of her stuff but I want to be careful what I delete.


I believe you can check to is if you copy has been activated

Open Start Settings app Update and Security.

Select Activation, in the left panel. Here you will see the activation
status.

I think if I were in this situation, the first thing I would do is to
deleted all folders in the My Documents folder. This is all of the
data put on by the previous user. Next I would look in the primary C:
folder and remove any user data folders. (I have one called personal
data, that has folders for software, pictures, etc.)

I would then delete all files in the Temp folders. There is one in the
Windows folder, and in each of the folders in C:/User/Username/Appdata.

I would then from the C: properties window run a disk Cleanup, followed
by the Check. I would then do a defrag

This should free up a significant amount of disk space and you should
have an organized error free disk.

I would then upgrade to Creator Edition. This will check your windows
10 activation status. If you have installation problems you can delete
the files in SoftareDistribution in the Windows directory. You may not
be able to delete all of the files in the Datastore folder, but the
system will make things right.

If all of this happens with no errors, I would run the computer for a
period to ensure everything is working correctly then go ahead and do a
clean install of the current Windows 10.

While this will take a little longer that doing a clean install first,
in this way you will know the computer is working, without the
consideration of any problems in the clean install with vendor specific
drivers, etc.

You drivers for the HP should be on a drive called DRecovery)




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Old May 5th 17, 03:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

Paul wrote in news
Your computer has a motherboard, with what is
effectively a serial number (to make this explanation
a bit simpler to understand).


I opened it up to look for the Wi-Fi card so here is a picture of that
motherboard.
https://s10.postimg.org/o85y00kmh/hp_mb.gif

When the previous user took advantage of the free upgrade
offer, to go from a copy of Windows 7 to Windows 10, the
computer was registered on a Microsoft server. A "digital
entitlement" entry was created.


Sounds good so far.
The Windows 10 Pro seems to be working so Windows 7 seems to be gone.
https://s27.postimg.org/udef4ncoz/image.gif

At any future time, if the Win10 OS is clean installed using
a downloadable DVD (available for free from Microsoft), the
instant the machine gets on the network, it sends its
serial number to the server at Microsoft.


OK. So far it isn't yet on the network because all it seems to have is the
ethernet cable and I haven't hooked it to my router yet (because it's in a
different room).

Here is a picture of the back of the computer:
https://s12.postimg.org/5fyg71u8t/hp_back.gif

The server at
Microsoft says "oh, I've seen this machine before, and
you got the free upgrade from me". And your OS is
then activated again. So the fact the machine was
activated the first time, is remembered on the server end.
Any future install of Win10, should re-activate, based
on the physical evidence presented (serial number).


This seems perfect! What you're saying, I think, is that no matter what I
do to the "current" Windows 10 Pro, it can be reinstalled.

I went to the Cortana thing which replaced the start menu and looked up
"system" which told me that the actual version of Windows is:
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro version 1.0.10586 Build 10586

The inside of the case had a blue round stamp saying it was from 2009, so
that's when the computer was probably built.

The system stuff told me it's 2.6GHz 4 cores with 16GB of RAM.

When does this stop working ? If you change too much hardware
inside the computer. If you burned out the motherboard and
had to replace it, the "digital entitlement" might be ruined
by that. But otherwise, you should be able to clean
install without an issue.


Good. The Windows 10 Pro is working for sure so that must mean I'm ok.

The only hardware I may add is that it does not seem to have a WiFi card,
or, if it does, I can't find it in the software or in the hardware.

I'll take the backup topic separately in another post.
Thank you.
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Old May 5th 17, 04:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John & Jane Doe
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Paul wrote in news
The next topic is backups. Do you use backup software ?
Do you have an external drive to store backups ?


I'm not really worried about backups from the old machine to the new
machine.

All my software was downloaded off the net except for Microsoft Office
which I just checked on WinXP is MS Office 2007.

My data is just my email which is in Google Gmail so it's still there, and
my pictures and some other files but they're all easy to back up onto a
flash drive so I'm not at all worried about the data that is on the old
WinXP machine which must be 15 years old or something like that.

Maintaining a computer is easy, if you have backup
images. If you make a mistake, you can restore from
backup. The size of the image, is only as large as
the size of the file set. So if you had a 2TB drive
with 300GB of files, the backup takes 300GB of space.


I'm on the old Windows XP machine which has a Pentium M 1.7GHz processor
with 1GB of RAM and a 200GB HDD with almost nothing left.

I right clicked on the one directory I care about if I was going to bring
it over from WinXP Home to Win10 Pro where it finally stopped counting at
less than 100 GB(50K files).
https://s4.postimg.org/xqc1eu6xp/winxp_data.gif

In that example, you'd need a 500GB drive for the
external storage media, as a convenient minimum size.

Free backup software is available. When prompted, you
do want to make the emergency boot CD, which helps
if you entirely ruin the OS on the hard drive :-)

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp


There are many times in the past when I could have used that!

But now, I'm probably not going to keep the old Windows XP machine, even
though I love the ease of use of Windows XP.

The 100GB of data I can move over at any time but most of it is almost
certainly garbage anyway so I'm not worried about any old data.

I have always been good about keeping my data all in one place so that is
not a problem. I've also always been good about saving all my downloaded
programs that I use to install software I care about, so that's not a
problem either.

The problem really is just how to best start fresh on Windows 10, which
seems, already, to be extremely different than Windows XP (and a lot harder
to figure out).


Yes, the CNET download is clean... The emergency
boot CD can use one of four WinPE versions, and
WinPE5 or WinPE10 should be good for most purposes.

*******


Just in case I need it for Windows 10, I will save that installer in my
location that I save all my installers.

Thank you.
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Old May 5th 17, 04:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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John & Jane Doe wrote:

The problem really is just how to best start fresh on Windows 10, which
seems, already, to be extremely different than Windows XP (and a lot harder
to figure out).



Windows 10 is still very much rooted in the original Windows NT
and 95/98/ME interface and design model. The architecture had pretty
much been perfected with Windows 2000 and XP (NT 5.0 and 5.1),
and Windows 7 was an achievement of compatibility with existing
hardware and software on a re-written codebase.

Windows 8.x and 10 simply build upon 7; there are those who decry
change, but the truth is that Windows 10 has moved into this modern
era of computing, where other OS platforms have stayed grounded in the
traditional PC/workstation GUI scheme. Microsoft/Intel/AMD are in the
lead among high-functionality devices.

--
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Old May 5th 17, 04:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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John & Jane Doe wrote:


Just in case I need it for Windows 10, I will save that installer in my
location that I save all my installers.

Thank you.


The CNET installer is a stub, of a few megabytes.
It's not the actual software.

When you run the stub, it downloads two files. The
40MB main installer. And a WinPE kit. The WinPE kit
can be 500MB in size. It is used to make the emergency
boot CD.

After the stub is finished, it might leave the two
files in the folder it was working in. Those are the
ones I keep for transport to other computers.

Then, when I want to install locally (network or not),
just those two files will do it.

The second downloaded file might be 500MB, but it
can be compressed as part of the post-processing.
It's a bit confusing as to how much downloading
it actually did.

If you're in a situation where you know you will not
need an emergency boot CD (or ISO file), then just
the 40MB portion need be downloaded. For people on
dialup, to me it's more important that they
make some kind of backup. And ignore the emergency
boot CD issue for another day. Someone on dialup will
go through enough torture, just getting the 40MB part...
For someone with broadband, you want both files.

*******

Most of the commercial tools will not back up a damaged
file system. Even when they claim to have a sector-by-sector
option, it's hard to prove the option to do it that
way, exists and works right.

For situations like that, a tool that can be used is
ddrescue. So while Macrium covers many of the things
you may need to do in a given day, it doesn't handle
every corner case well.
ddrescue First ddrescue Second
Sick drive with ---------------- Disk ----------- Disk
damaged file ("good (Run CHKDSK
system copy") on this disk)

That's the two-spare-disk method for attempting
repair or data recovery on a sick source disk.
Repair operations are done on the second disk,
to keep the First Disk safe. If the CHKDSK fails
and ruins the data on the Second Disk, you
clone over from the First Disk. This is why
I keep two spare disks here.

When a disk is sick, it might not survive more
than one clone operation. The First Disk is then
your golden reference, after the copy is made.
You're no longer dependent at that point, on
the sick disk.

DDrescue is multi-pass. It gets the easy sectors
on the first pass. On subsequent passes, it fills
in the holes. If the disk only manages to live for
two runs of ddrescue, then most likely you got
most of the sectors. And only the "bad patch"
is missing from the copy made.

As far as the spare drives go, they should be cleaned
before usage. Using "diskpart" in Windows, you
"Select Disk" and pick the disk you want to work
on. Then "Clean All" zeros the entire disk. After
that, the disk is ready as a destination for ddrescue.
Zeroing the drive, avoids confusion about where the
files on the disk came from :-) You then know it
was absolutely clean, before any other work was done.

So those are the things you do, when Macrium no
longer wants to work on stuff.

Paul
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Old May 5th 17, 04:49 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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knuttle wrote in news
I believe you can check to is if you copy has been activated

Open Start Settings app Update and Security.

Select Activation, in the left panel. Here you will see the activation
status.


The Windows 10 Pro desktop is not yet on the network since it doesn't seem
to have a wifi card and it is no where near the router, so here is a
picture of what happened.

Start Settings app Update & Security Activation
https://s7.postimg.org/ggvp86w2j/hp_activation.gif

Here is a closeup pictu
https://s9.postimg.org/hxyvi80qn/win...activation.gif

It says Edition = Windows 10 Pro
Activation = Windows is activated
Product Key = Windows 10 on this device is activated with a digital
entitlement

Can I assume, even though this isn't on the network yet, that it is
activated?
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Old May 5th 17, 05:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 5 May 2017 00:35:32 -0000 (UTC), John & Jane Doe
wrote:

How does a long time WinXP user clean up a Win7 desktop with Win10
installed without losing Windows 10 in the process?

My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact

I am a long time Windows XP user who just bought an HP desktop at a yard
sale that has stickers for Windows 7 but that has Windows 10 installed
(complete details to be placed in a followup post).

The desktop came with a single user with admin privileges so I created a
new user since the original user is already using up all but 380GB of the
930GB HDD.

If I had Windows 10 disks, I would start with a fresh format and install of
Windows 10 - but I don't have any media whatsoever and the original media
would have been Windows 7 anyway.

Do I need to save some kind of serial number before I format and start
over?


Can you use the Windows 7 key?


My main question right now is how to proceed to do two things:
1. Wipe out everything not needed
2. But keep the Win10 OS intact

  #14  
Old May 5th 17, 05:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John & Jane Doe
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Yeff wrote in :

If the Win10 OS is a legitimate install it should already be activated
with a digital license linked to the Microsoft account you're using.


I think the Windows 10 Pro is already activated based on this:
Start Settings app Update & Security Activation
https://s7.postimg.org/ggvp86w2j/hp_activation.gif

That means you can wipe the drive, install a fresh copy of Windows 10,
and it should automatically activate once you verify yourself as a user.


This "verify yourself as a user" part confuses me because the original
person, let's call her "Kat", is the original person but I don't have her
information that she gave to Microsoft when installing Windows 10 Pro.

Do I need that name information she gave to Microsoft?

Still, if you want to be safe, use the Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder:
Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder
https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/
This will get you both the installed OS product ID as well as the 25
character CD Key. The CD Key is what you really want. You can use the
program to save the information to a text file or print it out. Or
both.


This is what the Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder found for Windows:
https://s9.postimg.org/vn6cj888f/key_windows.jpg

Windows 10 Pro 20-digit product id which says "match to CD Key data".
CD Key: 25-character key
Computer Name & Registered Owner

This is what it found for Microsoft Office Professional 2007:
https://s18.postimg.org/o8zikixi1/key_msoffice.jpg
20-character Product ID & 25-character CD Key

I guess now that I have the "CD Key" for both the Windows 10 Pro and for
the Microsoft Office 2007 Professional, do I also need any other
information?

It seems creepy to be using her name for my software so that's why I ask.
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Old May 5th 17, 06:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
John & Jane Doe
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Default WinXP user bought first desktop Win7 - Win10 Pro

GlowingBlueMist wrote in news
One way to create the download media is the link found at;
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

You should be able to either download the installer on a flash drive or
download the ISO file and burn a DVD.


Since I'm going to keep the new desktop off the net until I put fresh
software on it, and since the magical jelly bean software pulled the keys
out of the Windows 10 registry, can I now use that link on WinXP to
download the full MS Windows 10 and Office 2007 installers and to burn each
one to a DVD?

It's confusing when I go here from Windows XP:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
"You've been routed to this page because the operating system you're
using won't support the Windows 10 media creation tool and we want to make
sure you can download Windows 10."

If your link lets me (I have to clear up some space on WinXP to download
the iso I think), which of these 8 choices is correct?
https://s14.postimg.org/vegy73d4x/windows_iso.gif
 




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