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  #31  
Old June 16th 17, 01:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , Wolf K
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How do I view the pics from iphone to mac on windows?

Don`t use email for such tasks. Use Google Photos for exchange of
pictures or https://wetransfer.com/

The pictures are in iCloud. To see them, download the app:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283

Google Photos is an alternative to iCloud. It's a website, accessible
with any browser, no app needed. There are many such services, eg,
Photobucket. AFAIK, they all provide some levels of privacy and
control.

It I had to install an app just to see an attached image in a email
I'll give you a hint where that email would end up...whoosh


Only one app is needed to read email: an email client. No additional
applications are needed. Wolf K is wrong about needing the iCloud for
Windows app. First of all, nothing in the OP's message indicates the
images are in iCloud.


I guess you missed the same datum as OP:

" Message-id: "

[snip speculations]


that just means it was sent from an icloud address, not where the
images are located.
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Old June 16th 17, 01:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , Wolf K
wrote:

Google Photos is an alternative to iCloud. It's a website, accessible
with any browser, no app needed. There are many such services, eg,
Photobucket. AFAIK, they all provide some levels of privacy and
control.

Google provides some level of privacy? Their very existence is about
selling our privacy.


+1


Pointless comment.

On all cloud services I know of you have control over who sees your files.

Both you and OP are letting your emotions interfere with your reading.
The following should be clear enough.

See Dick use Google Photos. See Dick set privacy "for friends only".
Dick is angry with Jane. She is not his friend any more. Jane cannot
look at the photos. See Google look at every photo Dick sends.


except that jane kept copies and not only can jane look at them at any
time, but so can everyone else because she posted some of the more
incriminating ones to imgur and linked them in a reddit thread.

now dick is *really* angry with jane.

despite their spats, google continues to build its knowledge graph of
both dick and jane and everyone they know.
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Old June 16th 17, 02:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Davoud wrote:
Jonathan N. Little:
I have never run bonjour and never had any trouble finding devices on my
LAN. If it is so reliable why does is routinely crash on Windows systems?


Nonsense. If you have never run Bonjour how do you know it is
unreliable? And if it so unreliable why does it never cause a problem
on my Macs or my Windoze systems? It is so transparent that I had
forgotten it existed until this thread appeared.


If you followed what I wrote, bonjour service running on *others'*
computers, not mine.

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  #34  
Old June 16th 17, 02:29 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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nospam wrote:
In article , Jonathan N. Little
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bonjour is very reliable and incredibly useful.


I have never run bonjour and never had any trouble finding devices on my
LAN.


the point is so you don't have to find the devices. the computer finds
them *for* you.


You don't need bonjour for the computer to discover devices on LAN.


If it is so reliable why does is routinely crash on Windows systems?


it doesn't routinely crash on windows systems or any other systems.

something else is the cause of your supposed crashes.


Purge itune and bonjour and issue resolves...


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Old June 16th 17, 02:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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dorayme wrote:
In article ,
"Jonathan N. Little" wrote:

It I had to install an app just to see an attached image in a email I'll
give you a hint where that email would end up...whoosh

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What about two photos? Or three? Or ...n? For what value of n would
you resist whooshing an email? g


Hi dorayme! Nope still will flush them. Same goes when folks email
images via some "service" that requires the recipient sign-up to get the
image. Haven't seen those for a while though...

If important I would request sender to attach images is the standard
manner.

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  #36  
Old June 16th 17, 02:44 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On 6/15/2017 8:29 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
nospam wrote:
In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

bonjour is very reliable and incredibly useful.

I have never run bonjour and never had any trouble finding devices on my
LAN.


the point is so you don't have to find the devices. the computer finds
them *for* you.


You don't need bonjour for the computer to discover devices on LAN.


If it is so reliable why does is routinely crash on Windows systems?


it doesn't routinely crash on windows systems or any other systems.

something else is the cause of your supposed crashes.


Purge itune and bonjour and issue resolves...




I agree 100 %.

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Old June 16th 17, 02:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Wolf K:
OK, your experience is different than mine. All emails I've received
with iCloud references required accessing iCloud.


You just don't get it. In the referenced message iCloud is nothing but
an email address. It meets all cross-platform standards and has aught
to do with where the photo was hosted.

I got tired of reading this bull**** written by people who have no idea
what they're talking about. I selected one of my photos in iCloud and
mailed from my icloud.com account to my gmail account. I opened Windows
on my Mac and received the email. There was nothing wrong with the
email or the photo. There was no sign that it had been hosted in
iCloud, no need for any special software to view the photo in
Windows‹just an ordinary photo attachment to an email.

Bottom line: the OP apparently has a Windows problem. Nothing new about
Windows having problems with graphics; it was meant for ASCII art and
video poker. He certainly does not have an iCloud problem.

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  #38  
Old June 16th 17, 02:49 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

bonjour is very reliable and incredibly useful.

I have never run bonjour and never had any trouble finding devices on my
LAN.


the point is so you don't have to find the devices. the computer finds
them *for* you.


You don't need bonjour for the computer to discover devices on LAN.


yes you do. that's the point of bonjour.

If it is so reliable why does is routinely crash on Windows systems?


it doesn't routinely crash on windows systems or any other systems.

something else is the cause of your supposed crashes.


Purge itune and bonjour and issue resolves...


and all of the features and functionality that bonjour and itunes bring
go away.

not a good solution.

and the crashes you claim are pure fabrication anyway. roughly a
*billion* people use itunes without issue. it's one of the most popular
apps on windows (source: microsoft).
  #39  
Old June 16th 17, 02:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-15 20:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-15 17:37, Jolly Roger wrote:

Only one app is needed to read email: an email client. No additional
applications are needed. Wolf K is wrong about needing the iCloud for
Windows app. First of all, nothing in the OP's message indicates the
images are in iCloud.

I guess you missed the same datum as OP:

" Message-id: "


No, I didn't miss it since it was included in the original post. All
that indicates is that the email host is iCloud.com. It does *not*
indicate that the email attachments are actually hosted on iCloud.com.


OK, your experience is different than mine. All emails I've received
with iCloud references required accessing iCloud.


You must not have much experience. I can tell you as a software
developer of all of the above platforms that the fact that an email is
sent from an icloud.com address implies nothing at all specific about
the content of the email message, including whether or not included
images are MIME attachments or links to remote hosts.

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Old June 16th 17, 02:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , Davoud
wrote:

Wolf K:
OK, your experience is different than mine. All emails I've received
with iCloud references required accessing iCloud.


You just don't get it. In the referenced message iCloud is nothing but
an email address. It meets all cross-platform standards and has aught
to do with where the photo was hosted.


correct.

I got tired of reading this bull**** written by people who have no idea
what they're talking about. I selected one of my photos in iCloud and
mailed from my icloud.com account to my gmail account. I opened Windows
on my Mac and received the email. There was nothing wrong with the
email or the photo. There was no sign that it had been hosted in
iCloud, no need for any special software to view the photo in
Windows‹just an ordinary photo attachment to an email.


yep.

Bottom line: the OP apparently has a Windows problem. Nothing new about
Windows having problems with graphics; it was meant for ASCII art and
video poker. He certainly does not have an iCloud problem.


that's a bit extreme, but the problem is clearly user error, either the
person who sent the email or the person receiving the email or a
combination of both.
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Old June 16th 17, 02:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-15 20:15, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-16, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-06-15 17:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2017-06-15, Davoud wrote:
Wolf K:

Google Photos is an alternative to iCloud. It's a website,
accessible with any browser, no app needed. There are many such
services, eg, Photobucket. AFAIK, they all provide some levels of
privacy and control.

Google provides some level of privacy? Their very existence is
about selling our privacy.

+1

Pointless comment.


Nope. Google is literally in the business of collecting and selling
information about its users to advertisers and other special
interests for profit. That's the Google business model, like it or
not.


Sure, but not relevant


I disagree. It's completely relevant with things as intimate as personal
photos. You can learn quite a lot about people from their photos
combined with other metadata about them. You don't use *any* Google
service "for free". It has a cost, and with Google, probably more than
any other company whose business plan isn't to extract as much salable
information about you as possible to sell to the highest bidder.

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Old June 16th 17, 02:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On 2017-06-16, nospam wrote:
In article , Wolf K
wrote:

Google Photos is an alternative to iCloud. It's a website,
accessible with any browser, no app needed. There are many such
services, eg, Photobucket. AFAIK, they all provide some levels of
privacy and control.

Google provides some level of privacy? Their very existence is
about selling our privacy.

+1


Pointless comment.

On all cloud services I know of you have control over who sees your
files.

Both you and OP are letting your emotions interfere with your
reading. The following should be clear enough.

See Dick use Google Photos. See Dick set privacy "for friends only".
Dick is angry with Jane. She is not his friend any more. Jane cannot
look at the photos. See Google look at every photo Dick sends.


except that jane kept copies and not only can jane look at them at any
time, but so can everyone else because she posted some of the more
incriminating ones to imgur and linked them in a reddit thread.

now dick is *really* angry with jane.

despite their spats, google continues to build its knowledge graph of
both dick and jane and everyone they know.


It bears repeating:

+1

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Old June 16th 17, 04:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Wolf K:
Sure, but not relevant to my point, which was that picture storage
services all have some levels of privacy control.


Privacy from whom? From your ex-friend Jane? Sure. From Google analysis
of your photos in order to gather more and more information about your
interests to sell to all takers? No. It's how Google makes money,
provides all of those "free" services.

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Old June 16th 17, 04:20 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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nospam wrote:
In article , Jonathan N. Little
wrote:

bonjour is very reliable and incredibly useful.

I have never run bonjour and never had any trouble finding devices on my
LAN.

the point is so you don't have to find the devices. the computer finds
them *for* you.


You don't need bonjour for the computer to discover devices on LAN.


yes you do. that's the point of bonjour.


Not running bonjour on my LAN and workstations can discover all network
printers just fine...automagically as so many love to say. There are
other protocols.


If it is so reliable why does is routinely crash on Windows systems?

it doesn't routinely crash on windows systems or any other systems.

something else is the cause of your supposed crashes.


Purge itune and bonjour and issue resolves...


and all of the features and functionality that bonjour and itunes bring
go away.

not a good solution.


Don't need iTunes for my music and vids. I only have one Windows system
the rest are Linux, iTunes not wanted not needed.


and the crashes you claim are pure fabrication anyway. roughly a
*billion* people use itunes without issue. it's one of the most popular
apps on windows (source: microsoft).


May be so. But bonjour service crashing that is logged in events on
systems that I have debugged say otherwise. Sometimes reinstalling
iTunes resolves the issue on some of the systems for awhile. But often
the problem returns.

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Old June 16th 17, 04:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Davoud wrote:

You just don't get it. In the referenced message iCloud is nothing but
an email address. It meets all cross-platform standards and has aught
to do with where the photo was hosted.


Ah ha, that might be the issue. If the image is remotely served and not
encoded and attached to the email gmail may be blocking it. I don't ise
webmail so not sure about it. Thunderbird surely will block it, it does
by default. You must white-list it. Remote content is a security risk.

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