Malware on an Apple Mac? Surely not!

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .
The fact is you and hawk and the other trolls cant stand that some one other
then you is right.
Hawk would not give a person credit for being right unless it was HIM.
I really don't care what you or hawk or the other trolls think.

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"Lewis" wrote in message
...
In message Andy
wrote:
Read it closely HAWK i said a friend had malware on HIS mac

Only if HE installed it.

(indeed one of them did get malware on his mac a well as a
virus so think what ya will HAWK who says he only owns pc's )

You repeating the elie doesn't make it true. What virus? Oh, that's
right, you can't answer that because it's a ****ing lie.


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On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:06:00 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

In message Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:39:01 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

In message Andy wrote:
From what my mac friend have said it has or soon will.

Your "friend" knows nothing or you misunderstood.

There is no such thing as Mac Os 11.

I think he's referring to iOS 11 which, as far as I know, exists.

Well in that case there is no malware AND no viruses, so he;'s still an
idiot and still wrong.

Well, he pointed out that people are _trying_ to attack iOS 11 which
is essentially true of pretty much every operating system under the
sun. As such, let's all agree to compromise and call him a half-wit.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

On 01/02/2018 13:47, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

Hi :-)

I'm still learning about such matters. Can you provide any specific
evidence that someone using OSX can *not* be 'infected' simply by
visiting a 'contaminated' web site or, maybe, by clicking on a link?

Your advice will be appreciated.

--
David B.

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 14:06:47 +0000, "David B."
wrote:

On 01/02/2018 13:47, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

Hi :-)

I'm still learning about such matters. Can you provide any specific
evidence that someone using OSX can *not* be 'infected' simply by
visiting a 'contaminated' web site or, maybe, by clicking on a link?

Your advice will be appreciated.

I'm not too familiar with Mac OS as much as I used to be when I used
it exclusively (back in 2003-2005) but as far as I know, any program
looking to compromise Mac OS would have to convince the user to enter
their password. That password is necessary for a program - whether
innocent or nefarious - to make any changes to the system software. In
Windows, it's just a matter of getting the user to click OK rather
than Cancel during an installation, something that most users seem to
do without a second thought. According to Microsoft, if people didn't
automatically click OK there, 94% of the malware wouldn't affect them
at all. The rest seem to take advantage of bugs which have been known
for a long time and remain unpatched by users, such as holes in Flash
software or long-ago-reported issues in Windows itself.

On 2018-02-01 13:47:20 +0000, Doomsdrzej said:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:
In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

The only *real* anti-malware solution for a Windoze PC is to wipe the
hard drive and install Linux instead. You could install macOS X if you
want to be a naughty 'Hackintosh' user, but because it is hacked into
"working", it's a bit flakey and you'lll spend more time trying to get
it to work than you already do with Windoze.

On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.

Nowhere near as easily. Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections. When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

Not to say it's a non-issue. Since threats get identified and patched
on Mac OS. Usually long before exploitation can occur.

OTOH, I've run for a decade with no malware protection on my Macs (Mine,
several at work, SO's, son's). No infections at all. As a precaution I
run "Malwarebytes" once every few months. Never hit a thing.

Nobody could run a Windows PC for more than a few months in ordinary use
w/o getting infected. Never mind a decade over several machines.

--
“When it is all said and done, there are approximately 94 million
full-time workers in private industry paying taxes to support 102
million non-workers and 21 million government workers.
In what world does this represent a strong job market?�
..Jim Quinn

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:19:24 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.

Nowhere near as easily. Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections. When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

Not to say it's a non-issue. Since threats get identified and patched
on Mac OS. Usually long before exploitation can occur.

OTOH, I've run for a decade with no malware protection on my Macs (Mine,
several at work, SO's, son's). No infections at all. As a precaution I
run "Malwarebytes" once every few months. Never hit a thing.

Nobody could run a Windows PC for more than a few months in ordinary use
w/o getting infected. Never mind a decade over several machines.

For several years I have run McAfee, Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes on my W10 systems. I don't recall McAfee ever declaring that
it's found anything. Super anti Spyware occasionally finds something.
Malwarebytes regularly gets all concerned about utility files such as
Driver Detective. But I have had nothing serious as far as I know.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2/1/2018 3:53 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:

For several years I have run McAfee, Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes on my W10 systems. I don't recall McAfee ever declaring that
it's found anything.

This is true, but Windows 10 is a very different animal than Windows XP,
or Windows Vista. Starting with Windows 7, the malware problem on
Windows machines has been very small, and vulnerabilities have been
patched quickly. I have never had any malware on any of my many Windows
10 systems.

On 2018-02-01 23:53:47 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:19:24 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.

Nowhere near as easily. Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections. When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

Not to say it's a non-issue. Since threats get identified and patched
on Mac OS. Usually long before exploitation can occur.

OTOH, I've run for a decade with no malware protection on my Macs (Mine,
several at work, SO's, son's). No infections at all. As a precaution I
run "Malwarebytes" once every few months. Never hit a thing.

Nobody could run a Windows PC for more than a few months in ordinary use
w/o getting infected. Never mind a decade over several machines.

For several years I have run McAfee, Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes on my W10 systems. I don't recall McAfee ever declaring that
it's found anything. Super anti Spyware occasionally finds something.
Malwarebytes regularly gets all concerned about utility files such as
Driver Detective. But I have had nothing serious as far as I know.

My mother had a Windows PC (Windows 2000 I think, from memory) a few
years ago with a normally up-dated anti-malware application (don't
recall which one), but it was constantly getting infected with crap
that wasn't being found by *ANY* of the anti-malware apps, let alone
being able to remove it. The only way to temporarily get rid of the
crap was by doing it manually, including editing the system
registration files.

Thankfully that useless pile of dog-dung killed itself and she got a
hand-me-down Mac laptop instead, and had no problems at all. The laptop
eventually died with a motherboard fault and she now has an iPad.

In message Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses

Repeating the lie doesn't make it true, it is still a lie.

It's a proven fact .

Great. Cite a single incidence of a macOS or OS X virus. Just one. Go
ahead, we'll wait.

I really don't care what you or hawk or the other trolls think.

Your brain certainly seem to be impervious to facts.


--
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night

In message Alan Browne wrote:
On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.

Nowhere near as easily. Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections. When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

And invariably due to something the user installed.

--
Hello Diane, I'm Bucky Goldstein

Can't handle the truth can you TO BAD.


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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

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Ann Sheridan

I meant IOS11 in my orginal post and yes they are attacking it for some
reason.
MAC'S arnt going to be immune to viruses and malware attacks for ever to
spite the denial by the mac camp


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"Doomsdrzej" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:06:00 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

In message Doomsdrzej
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:39:01 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

In message Andy
wrote:
From what my mac friend have said it has or soon will.

Your "friend" knows nothing or you misunderstood.

There is no such thing as Mac Os 11.

I think he's referring to iOS 11 which, as far as I know, exists.

Well in that case there is no malware AND no viruses, so he;'s still an
idiot and still wrong.

Well, he pointed out that people are _trying_ to attack iOS 11 which
is essentially true of pretty much every operating system under the
sun. As such, let's all agree to compromise and call him a half-wit.

On 01/02/2018 18:43, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 14:06:47 +0000, "David B."
wrote:

On 01/02/2018 13:47, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

Hi :-)

I'm still learning about such matters. Can you provide any specific
evidence that someone using OSX can *not* be 'infected' simply by
visiting a 'contaminated' web site or, maybe, by clicking on a link?

Your advice will be appreciated.

I'm not too familiar with Mac OS as much as I used to be when I used
it exclusively (back in 2003-2005) but as far as I know, any program
looking to compromise Mac OS would have to convince the user to enter
their password. That password is necessary for a program - whether
innocent or nefarious - to make any changes to the system software. In
Windows, it's just a matter of getting the user to click OK rather
than Cancel during an installation, something that most users seem to
do without a second thought. According to Microsoft, if people didn't
automatically click OK there, 94% of the malware wouldn't affect them
at all. The rest seem to take advantage of bugs which have been known
for a long time and remain unpatched by users, such as holes in Flash
software or long-ago-reported issues in Windows itself.


Many thanks for your thoughts on this Doomsdrzej. :-)

--
David B.