Office 365

Just in case you are not aware of what is Office 365 then please read this:

Office 365 is a cloud-based subscription service that brings together
the best tools for the way people work today. By combining
best-in-class apps like Excel and Outlook with powerful cloud services
like OneDrive and Microsoft Teams, Office 365 lets anyone create and
share anywhere on any device.

If you are interested to know more then please download a free trial
version and use it for 30 days free of charge, of course.

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On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:07:07 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:

Just in case you are not aware of what is Office 365 then please read this:

Office 365 is a cloud-based subscription service that brings together
the best tools for the way people work today. By combining
best-in-class apps like Excel and Outlook with powerful cloud services
like OneDrive and Microsoft Teams, Office 365 lets anyone create and
share anywhere on any device.

Does this mean the price of Office13 has been discounted?

On 27/02/2018 20:55, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:07:07 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:

Just in case you are not aware of what is Office 365 then please read this:

Office 365 is a cloud-based subscription service that brings together
the best tools for the way people work today. By combining
best-in-class apps like Excel and Outlook with powerful cloud services
like OneDrive and Microsoft Teams, Office 365 lets anyone create and
share anywhere on any device.
Does this mean the price of Office13 has been discounted?

You can't buy it but with Office365 subscription, you can use any
version you like. You can download earlier versions from Microsoft
website and use it. All you need is your Microsoft Account to activate.

I have got Office 2013 & Office 2016 on my machines but I prefer to use
Office 2016!! I use latest products whenever possible. I say machines
because with your subscription, you can install Office {Home} on 5
devices. You have to agree that is is the best value product around.

By the way the subscription is pretty cheap as well. it is £80 UKP but
Australian should be comparable. You might even get it at a special
rate if you are taking a first time subscription. I pay only £40.00.



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On 27/02/2018 21:44, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Cloud. **** off. My program, my computer, leave me alone.


Frankly, you should be the one who should **** off because when a
product says that it is cloud base it doesn't mean you have to use the
cloud part of it. The product is still a desktop version; You install
it like any other App but idiots like you shouldn't be using Microsoft
products because Microsoft isn't making any products for people of low
intelligence like you have just demonstrated that that is what you are.

Linux is the product you should be using because everybody with low
intelligence loves it but nobody among that group uses it for any
meaningful purpose. It could be partly because they don't have the
brains to do anything useful and partly because Linux is not designed to
do anything; It is good to talk about when you go out to parties. You
don't want to look stupid that you can't use a computer.






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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote

| The product is still a desktop version; You install
| it like any other App
|
| So far. But there will come a time when everyone can watch you. And when
nobody can access their documents when there's no internet access.
|

Actually, it's already here. As "Good Guy" said, it's installed
software. So why does it have to call home to work?
Because Microsoft want people to think of it as being
online, so they can pull off the scam of forcing people
to rent it. Adobe CS is similar. It's not cloud except in
being spyware that has to call home in order to work,
and in providing online storage. The cloud is, for the
most part, merely a marketing scam. People don't need
cloud. They need software.

Both MS and Adobe also get to collect personal/business
data in the process of their "cloud" operations, without
compensation and without permission.

But Adobe CS is also insidious in the way it works.
Non-techie people who don't know enough to make local
copies of their files -- the majority who let the program
manage file storage -- will lose all of their files if they
cancel the rental. Those files are stored, by default, on
Adobe's server. (Office 365 could be the same. I'm not
familiar with it.)

Microsoft recently announced Windows 365. I haven't
seen a full explanation of the details, but it seems to
be something like "bring your own hardware". They rent
Windows and Office, along with file storage and security
"services". It's the arrival of fullsacle rental of all computer
functionality. The amazing thing is that people are falling
for this.

In any case, can't you just filter Good Guy? He never
adds anything of value. He does add animosity and the
misinformation of shill marketing. He may even be a
Microsoft employee, using an ill-tempered style to
disguise the advertising. It certainly wouldn't be the
first time. Or maybe it's a case of Billy Gates hero
worship. (Another entity who knows how to market
himself.)

For anyone who's never seen James Plamondon's
Evangelism is War piece, this might be a very interesting
read. Plamondon was a Microsoft executive.:

http://iowa.gotthefacts.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf

Here's one snippet about how to use the press and
analysts:

"Analysts are people who are paid to take a stand, while always trying to
appear to be disinterested observers (since the appearance of independence
maximizes the price they can charge for selling out). Treat them as you
would treat nuclear weapons - as an important part of your arsenal, which
you want to keep out of the hands of the enemy. Bribe Hire them to produce
"studies" that "prove" that your technology is superior to the enemy's, and
that it is gaining momentum faster."

On 28/2/2018 01:07, Good Guy wrote:
Just in case you are not aware of what is Office 365 then please read this:

Office 365 is a cloud-based subscription service that brings together
the best tools for the way people work today. By combining
best-in-class apps like Excel and Outlook with powerful cloud services
like OneDrive and Microsoft Teams, Office 365 lets anyone create and
share anywhere on any device.

If you are interested to know more then please download a free trial
version and use it for 30 days free of charge, of course.

Office 2007 is eternal, until Micro$oft wracks it!


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On 28/2/2018 05:44, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Cloud. **** off. My program, my computer, leave me alone.


Also: my data, my private storage!

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Office 2007 is eternal, until Micro$oft wracks it!

Office 2007 is the 'Vista' version that got fixed with 2010! Since you're here
in a Win10 forum.., v2007 still uses VBA6 which Win10 breaks in code that uses
ShellExecute, causing it to not work. No doubt this is intentional so if you
insist running Office on Win10 you'd be better off with a newer version!

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:01:51 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote in

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote

| The product is still a desktop version; You install
| it like any other App
|
| So far. But there will come a time when everyone can watch you. And when
nobody can access their documents when there's no internet access.
|

Actually, it's already here. As "Good Guy" said, it's installed
software. So why does it have to call home to work?
Because Microsoft want people to think of it as being
online, so they can pull off the scam of forcing people
to rent it. Adobe CS is similar. It's not cloud except in
being spyware that has to call home in order to work,
and in providing online storage. The cloud is, for the
most part, merely a marketing scam. People don't need
cloud. They need software.

+1

One of the original selling points of the PC was that you could do
"computing" without having to depend on being attached to a remote
main-frame or mini computer.
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On 28/2/2018 22:46, GS wrote:
Office 2007 is eternal, until Micro$oft wracks it!

Office 2007 is the 'Vista' version that got fixed with 2010! Since
you're here in a Win10 forum.., v2007 still uses VBA6 which Win10 breaks
in code that uses ShellExecute, causing it to not work. No doubt this is
intentional so if you insist running Office on Win10 you'd be better off
with a newer version!

My requirements are basic and simple. 2007 is serving me well. But you
need to adjust the icon text font size in the desktop to use it in
high-resolution monitors.

However, I do own a Retail copy of Office 2010.. unopened!


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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:01:51 -0500 "Mayayana"
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Adobe CS is similar. It's not cloud except in
being spyware that has to call home in order to work,

Not so. Works fine with no net connection.

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:44:43 -0000 "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote in article

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:07:07 -0000, Good Guy wrote:

Just in case you are not aware of what is Office 365 then please read this:

Office 365 is a cloud-based subscription service that brings together
the best tools for the way people work today. By combining
best-in-class apps like Excel and Outlook with powerful cloud services
like OneDrive and Microsoft Teams, Office 365 lets anyone create and
share anywhere on any device.

If you are interested to know more then please download a free trial
version and use it for 30 days free of charge, of course.

Cloud. **** off. My program, my computer, leave me alone.

I use it with NO cloud involvement. Everything is stored locally.

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:44:43 -0000 "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote in article
My program, my computer, leave me alone.

Sometime, carefully read the T&C for MS programs. You don't own Windows.
You buy permission to use it...

On 01/03/2018 00:45, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Get to ****! If I buy something, it's mine! Does my car magically go
back to Renault? No! It stays with me forever. If you pay for
something, it belongs to you until the end of time. Anything else is
purely ludicrous.


The more you open your mouth, the more we come to know how stupid some
people are in these newsgroups.

Software has always been licensed since day 0; Nobody owned a software
except the person who created it. It is by law so just **** off if you
don't like the law.

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Jason wrote:
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:01:51 -0500 "Mayayana"
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Adobe CS is similar. It's not cloud except in
being spyware that has to call home in order to work,

Not so. Works fine with no net connection.

Some of Adobe products have a grace period.

https://helpx.adobe.com/document-clo...robat-dc.html#

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-clo...loud-apps.html

They need that, because I think Adobe had a one day outage
in the past.

And CS2 ended up being "free", in that they released license
keys for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite

Whereas Creative Cloud is an entirely different animal.
Rental software available only in x64 versions. Puny
machines (AthlonXP) need not apply :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Cloud

Paul