Turning off updates in Windows 10

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On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 21:10:49 -0500, "HB" wrote in


I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD space.
I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and
HD
space.

TIA


Try https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions
under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on
of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide
how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted
functions should be deactivated.

O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed - it
can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not
install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software,
like so many other programs do these days!
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Thanks. It's worth looking into.

"Good Guy" wrote in message news On 02/03/2018 02:10, HB wrote:

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time and HD
space.


You didn't try harder or you weren't determined to find a simple solution like most nutters here!!.

The simple solution is to launch your "services.msc" APP and then disable Windows Update. Look at this pictu




Simple solutions are always the best but idiots like to install all sorts of gadgets and when they get viruses or malware, they blame Microsoft. It's simple to blame Microsoft because that is the only corporation known to the entire world. Nutters recommending third party gadgets don't even know who has released those gadgets nor do they know their background or their intention to release free software.

However, any malware you install is always a good thing; We are here to sort out any problems you may encounter later in your computing experience!!!!

Thanks. Done. :^) Never thought to look there and didn't see this mentioned Googling.



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On 3/3/2018 12:29 AM, B00ze wrote:
On 2018-03-02 00:29, Paul wrote:

B00ze wrote:

https://winaero.com/blog/ethernet-co...ed-windows-10/
Simple isn't it? Work for me in Anniversary Edition anyway (via
registry editing)...
Regards,


I thought they were going to remove the Ethernet metered thing ?
Is it still around ?

I don't remember if it is functionally the same as it was previously,
but if you go to the Notification , click networks, then the network you
are using; Select Properties. Scroll down and check Metered Connection.
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On 3/1/2018 9:29 PM, Paul wrote:
B00ze wrote:
On 2018-03-01 21:10, HB wrote:

I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I
also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take over. This
last one tonight took over an hour to download and install. Wasted
time I
could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why they're
important. I
shut them off on the other PCs I had with no problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I could
better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off in
W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time
and HD
space.

https://winaero.com/blog/ethernet-co...ed-windows-10/

Simple isn't it? Work for me in Anniversary Edition anyway (via
registry editing)...

Regards,


I thought they were going to remove the Ethernet metered thing ?
Is it still around ?

I;m getting so confused. For example, a while back, there was
a stink about Wifi Sense... and they were removing it. And a
few days ago, I ran into a Wifi Sense article with a Feb 2018
byline ? I didn't get it. I thought that thing was dead.

Same with the Ethernet metered reg setting. I thought some
version was going to remove it.

Paul
Metered seems to still be working.
There's also a registry key that can let you pause updates
for about a year.
My experiments suggest that both seem to be working.
Problem is that there are issues.
It's all or nothing. You can block updates, but if you
ever need one update or a driver, you have turn turn off the
blocks. Last time I did that on a system that had been blocked
for a couple of upgrade cycles, it took over 12 hours to get itself
back together. And I couldn't leave it alone, because it
demanded periodic user input.

I had a friend in a similar situation. He ran out of high-speed
data allotment and most of it proceeded at a tethered 2G phone download
rate.
He was not amused.

On a second system, I downloaded the latest .iso to a thumb drive
and just did a reinstall/save existing stuff of the new version.
That went much faster. Still had a bunch of privacy fixes and
customizations
to redo.

I put windows update mini-tool on several systems.
That gives you an experience much like win7. You an pick
and choose and hide BEFORE you download and install.
So far, that's working great on half a dozen systems.
It's supposed to work on home edition, but I don't have any
of those to try.

There is a bug in mini-tool. If you delay too long, the download queue
gets huge and mini-tool errors out with an error that you don't have
enough "space", whatever that is, and aborts. They seem to look at the
total size instead of looking just at the size of the stuff you
would select to download/install in one session if they were
to give you that option.

I did manage to get it done by a major resize of the C: partition, do the
update, shrink it back down, reload all the stuff I had to delete to
make room...GRRRR!!

Forced updates are extremely annoying, but no longer my primary
roadblock to win10 adoption. I get to move on to other issues.

I'm still annoyed by people who insist on replacing the user interface.
They ask for help. I try to give them help. The instructions I give
won't work because the icon to click doesn't exist or the menu
selection is missing on their system.

Windows 10 CHAOS is headed toward the CHAOS inherent in linux distros.

I'm not finding anything that I can't do with the existing win10
desktop. It's sufficiently configurable to make it work.
If they'd just quit undoing my customizations with every damn update,
I'd almost be a happy camper.

"HB" wrote in message news

"Athanasian_Creed" wrote in message
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On 2018-03-01 22:34, Paul wrote:
HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take
over. This last one tonight took over an hour to download and install.
Wasted time I could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why
they're important. I shut them off on the other PCs I had with no
problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I
could better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off
in W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time
and HD space.

TIA



To prevent automatic download & installation of Windows Updates
PERMANENTLY, including new builds such as the FCU do the following:

1) Download Windows Update MiniTool
2) Go into user interface, on the left hand side you will see 'Automatic
Updates', change from 'automatically' to 'Notification mode'

After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup
notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check
for updates. When the one that you don't want to install appears in the
list, put a check mark beside it & click on the option to hide it. Then,
if you go back and re-run Windows Update, that update will not appear
again (IF, by chance, it does show up again after you have hidden it,
just hide it again - sometimes this happens maybe due to a minor bug in
the program).

Good luck!



OK, got and used the mini tool and set the wireless to Metered. I hope
these thing stop the damn updates.

It didn't work. A popup window is asking when it's convenient to install
the new updates and that they will be installed when MS thinks it's
convenient. There was no choice to see what downloads were about to be
forced on me.

HB wrote:
"HB" wrote in message news
"Athanasian_Creed" wrote in message
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On 2018-03-01 22:34, Paul wrote:
HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take
over. This last one tonight took over an hour to download and install.
Wasted time I could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why
they're important. I shut them off on the other PCs I had with no
problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I
could better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off
in W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time
and HD space.

TIA


To prevent automatic download & installation of Windows Updates
PERMANENTLY, including new builds such as the FCU do the following:

1) Download Windows Update MiniTool
2) Go into user interface, on the left hand side you will see 'Automatic
Updates', change from 'automatically' to 'Notification mode'

After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup
notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check
for updates. When the one that you don't want to install appears in the
list, put a check mark beside it & click on the option to hide it. Then,
if you go back and re-run Windows Update, that update will not appear
again (IF, by chance, it does show up again after you have hidden it,
just hide it again - sometimes this happens maybe due to a minor bug in
the program).

Good luck!


OK, got and used the mini tool and set the wireless to Metered. I hope
these thing stop the damn updates.

It didn't work. A popup window is asking when it's convenient to install
the new updates and that they will be installed when MS thinks it's
convenient. There was no choice to see what downloads were about to be
forced on me.



But you're running Home, right ?

Do you know if the Minitool works with Home ?

Sometimes the Home version is a bit more hobbled
than the Pro version of Windows 10. And in turn,
Microsoft messed up the Pro version, so that
business users would need to buy Enterprise versions,
to get what used to be Pro features. So there's a
lot of that going on.

Paul

On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 03:42:28 -0500, "HB" wrote in



OK, got and used the mini tool and set the wireless to Metered. I hope
these thing stop the damn updates.

It didn't work. A popup window is asking when it's convenient to install
the new updates and that they will be installed when MS thinks it's
convenient. There was no choice to see what downloads were about to be
forced on me.


Take a look at this

O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions
under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on
of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide
how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted
functions should be deactivated.

O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it
can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not
install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software,
like so many other programs do these days!

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
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On 3/4/2018 12:42 AM, HB wrote:
"HB" wrote in message news

"Athanasian_Creed" wrote in message
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On 2018-03-01 22:34, Paul wrote:
HB wrote:
I recently bought a new HP Notebook with W-10. I see MS is now forcing
updates on us whether or not we want them or care to give up the HD
space. I also lose the use of the NB while these unwanted updates take
over. This last one tonight took over an hour to download and install.
Wasted time I could have gotten work done. Please, no reasons why
they're important. I shut them off on the other PCs I had with no
problems.

Verizon is not an unlimited service and these updates waste data I
could better use elsewhere.

I Googled but could not find any helpful info on shutting updates off
in W-10 Home. Someone has to know how to stop this intrusion of my time
and HD space.

TIA



To prevent automatic download & installation of Windows Updates
PERMANENTLY, including new builds such as the FCU do the following:

1) Download Windows Update MiniTool
2) Go into user interface, on the left hand side you will see 'Automatic
Updates', change from 'automatically' to 'Notification mode'

After doing the above, whenever there are updates, you will get a popup
notification that there are updates to install. Run the MiniTool & check
for updates. When the one that you don't want to install appears in the
list, put a check mark beside it & click on the option to hide it. Then,
if you go back and re-run Windows Update, that update will not appear
again (IF, by chance, it does show up again after you have hidden it,
just hide it again - sometimes this happens maybe due to a minor bug in
the program).

Good luck!



OK, got and used the mini tool and set the wireless to Metered. I hope
these thing stop the damn updates.

It didn't work. A popup window is asking when it's convenient to install
the new updates and that they will be installed when MS thinks it's
convenient. There was no choice to see what downloads were about to be
forced on me.



EXACTLY what are you running?

wumt_x64.exe or wumt_x86.exe are the programs that do the work, but you
DO NOT run them.

WUB.exe is the program that forcefully blocks updates.
You don't need to run that one either, but
You can run that separately to turn automatic updates on/off or just
check the status.

Windows Update MiniTool.cmd is the wrapper that you RUN as administrator.
It decides whether you're 32 or 64bit and calls the right program.

When you run Windows Update MiniTool.cmd as administrator, you get
a blue screen that asks you to press a key to continue.
When you press a key, the script starts by enabling updates, then it
searches for updates.

I didn't like that, so I edited the .cmd file NOT to automatically start
update scans.
__________________________________________________ _______
: removed autoupdate Start "" "%wumt%" -update "-onclose
%~dp0wub.exe /d /p"
Start "" "%wumt%" "-onclose %~dp0wub.exe /d /p"
__________________________________________________ _________

There's a windows update drop-down menu on the WUMT page that sets
windows to automatically update every time you run WUMT.
That sounds like a stupid thing to do, but maybe I don't
understand what it's really doing.

First thing I do is change automatic updates to disabled.
I don't really know what is supposed to happen, but I fear
that windows automatic updates is active until you set windows updates
to disable...EVERY TIME YOU RUN WUMT.


Only then do I click the round arrows button to start searching for
updates.
The search populates the right half of the window.
Select the ones you want to act on and click one of the buttons to complete
the action.

If you mouse hover over the icons, you'll see what they do.

When you close the window or restart, WUMT is supposed to re-block
windows update. You can verify that by running Wub.exe.

Seems to work in win10-pro.
I read that it also works in home, but I have no way to check that.