How would a SSDHD hybrid work on a triple boot laptop.

I currently have Win8 Win7 Linux Mint all booting. No UEFI.
So if I put in a hybrid drive with a bit of SSD and the rest HD, I
understand win 8 can automatically place stuff on the ssd that it thinks
necessary. I guess boot stuff etc.

But what happens when I start Win7? Or Worse yet, Linux, the SSD part
may not be partitioned Ext4 for Linux.

Can this work or is it more of a headache. ??

In eb.com,
Big Al typed:
I currently have Win8 Win7 Linux Mint all booting. No UEFI.
So if I put in a hybrid drive with a bit of SSD and the rest HD, I
understand win 8 can automatically place stuff on the ssd that it
thinks necessary. I guess boot stuff etc.

But what happens when I start Win7? Or Worse yet, Linux, the SSD
part may not be partitioned Ext4 for Linux.

Can this work or is it more of a headache. ??

I personally won't do it. Up to 2009, I didn't have much problems with
dualbooting. But that all changed with Windows 7 and 8. Now I leave each
OS isolated from each other, either by swapping drives or by swapping
machines.

If you do try it anyway, then PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE... make a reliable
backup before you attempt this. As even though restoring is a PIA, it is
nothing compared to what horrors you could find yourself in.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

BillW50 wrote:

In eb.com,
Big Al typed:
I currently have Win8 Win7 Linux Mint all booting. No UEFI.
So if I put in a hybrid drive with a bit of SSD and the rest HD, I
understand win 8 can automatically place stuff on the ssd that it
thinks necessary. I guess boot stuff etc.

But what happens when I start Win7? Or Worse yet, Linux, the SSD
part may not be partitioned Ext4 for Linux.

Can this work or is it more of a headache. ??

I personally won't do it. Up to 2009, I didn't have much problems with
dualbooting. But that all changed with Windows 7 and 8. Now I leave each
OS isolated from each other, either by swapping drives or by swapping
machines.

If you do try it anyway, then PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE... make a reliable
backup before you attempt this. As even though restoring is a PIA, it is
nothing compared to what horrors you could find yourself in.


Stick to separates IE SSD for OS's and HDD for personal files Plus external
drive for backed up files. Think long term for when you will have a failure.
What do you think will happen if your Hybrid failed?

Parko said on 1/1/2014 8:16 AM:
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 04:19:08 -0500, Big Al wrote:

I currently have Win8 Win7 Linux Mint all booting. No UEFI.
So if I put in a hybrid drive with a bit of SSD and the rest HD, I
understand win 8 can automatically place stuff on the ssd that it thinks
necessary. I guess boot stuff etc.

But what happens when I start Win7? Or Worse yet, Linux, the SSD part
may not be partitioned Ext4 for Linux.

Can this work or is it more of a headache. ??



For the past 18 months I've been dual booting Win7 and Linux Mint KDE on
seperate SSDs ( Win7 formatted with one big partition on Sdb, LM KDE on
Sda with / & /home, and a big 1TB ext4 drive mounted as /data). Works OK.
I bought a notebook recently with Win8. Be aware that Win8 does not play
nice with Linux by design as far as I can tell though I suspect the BIOS
may have something to do with it. UEFI boot partitions don't like grub
and viceversa and the Windows disk management utility happily recognises
ext4 partitions and cheerfully offers to format them for you given the
chance.

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a gimmick.
Better to get 3 small capacity SSDs for each OS and one HDD for your data
formatted NTFS if you plan to share. Turn off UEFI in the BIOS. Set up
your partitions with Gparted and do have a copy of Boor-Repair-Disk
handy. Just in case.
http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/


Considering I'm on a single drive Laptop (I may not have mentioned
that), it sounds like trying to interject any kind of SSD (other than
full use which is not proper) is going to be suicide.

It works fine the way it is, I guess I'll stay pat for now. It was
just a thought, and they are cheap.

On 1/1/2014 8:16 AM, Parko wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 04:19:08 -0500, Big Al wrote:

I currently have Win8 Win7 Linux Mint all booting. No UEFI.
So if I put in a hybrid drive with a bit of SSD and the rest HD, I
understand win 8 can automatically place stuff on the ssd that it thinks
necessary. I guess boot stuff etc.

But what happens when I start Win7? Or Worse yet, Linux, the SSD part
may not be partitioned Ext4 for Linux.

Can this work or is it more of a headache. ??



For the past 18 months I've been dual booting Win7 and Linux Mint KDE on
seperate SSDs ( Win7 formatted with one big partition on Sdb, LM KDE on
Sda with / & /home, and a big 1TB ext4 drive mounted as /data). Works OK.
I bought a notebook recently with Win8. Be aware that Win8 does not play
nice with Linux by design as far as I can tell though I suspect the BIOS
may have something to do with it. UEFI boot partitions don't like grub
and viceversa and the Windows disk management utility happily recognises
ext4 partitions and cheerfully offers to format them for you given the
chance.

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a gimmick.

And why is that? I've been using one on a Toshiba laptop for a little
over a year now and I think it's great.

In the last episode of , Parko
said:

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a gimmick.
Better to get 3 small capacity SSDs for each OS and one HDD for your data
formatted NTFS if you plan to share. Turn off UEFI in the BIOS. Set up
your partitions with Gparted and do have a copy of Boor-Repair-Disk
handy. Just in case.
http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/

A Western Digital Black2 drive might be a candidate too, it straps a
120GB SSD to a 1TB Black 2.5" drive, 9mm height, in a non-hybrid format.

In other words, in one standard 2.5" slot (with one SATA port) you get
two actual drives. A great solution for people stuck with a single-bay
laptop who want more than a single drive can offer.

--
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART?

In the last episode of , Parko
said:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:50:16 -0500, Ron wrote:

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a gimmick.

And why is that? I've been using one on a Toshiba laptop for a little
over a year now and I think it's great.

They add a layer of needless complexity in a device that's going to be
knocked about.

I assume you're talking about rotational drives? SSDs greatly reduce the
number of moving/spinning parts in a laptop down to fans that can be
trivially replaced, so they're ideal candidates for machines that are
going to be "knocked about"

--
We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART?

On 1/2/2014 8:25 AM, Parko wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:50:16 -0500, Ron wrote:

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a gimmick.

And why is that? I've been using one on a Toshiba laptop for a little
over a year now and I think it's great.

They add a layer of needless complexity in a device that's going to be
knocked about.


The speed of a SSD and the storage space of a HDD isn't needless to me.
I think it's a great idea. And my laptops don't get "knocked about".

On 1/02/2014, Ron posted:
On 1/2/2014 8:25 AM, Parko wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:50:16 -0500, Ron wrote:

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a
gimmick.

And why is that? I've been using one on a Toshiba laptop for a
little
over a year now and I think it's great.

They add a layer of needless complexity in a device that's going to
be
knocked about.


The speed of a SSD and the storage space of a HDD isn't needless to
me. I think it's a great idea. And my laptops don't get "knocked
about".

Besides that, SSDs are not mechanical devices. It would take more than
a "knock" to damage one of them.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 1/02/2014, Gene E. Bloch posted:
On 1/02/2014, Ron posted:
On 1/2/2014 8:25 AM, Parko wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:50:16 -0500, Ron wrote:

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a
gimmick.

And why is that? I've been using one on a Toshiba laptop for a
little
over a year now and I think it's great.

They add a layer of needless complexity in a device that's going
to be
knocked about.


The speed of a SSD and the storage space of a HDD isn't needless to
me. I think it's a great idea. And my laptops don't get "knocked
about".

Besides that, SSDs are not mechanical devices. It would take more
than a "knock" to damage one of them.

Of course, in the above I meant to refer specifically to the SSD part
of a hybrid drive. And it is in a way an elaboration and expansion of
the idea of a hard drive cache. You might think of that as a proven
technology :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

In the last episode of , Parko
said:

Which is the reason why I'll be replacing the HDD in my new notebook with
an SSD fairly shortly. Why you need a large capacity HDD in a notebook is
beyond me when you have cloud storage.

Cloud storage relies upon having fast, reliable network access. This is
difficult to obtain on a notebook, at least if you do any sort of
international travel.

That being said, I tend to agree, I was quite happy on a 120GB SSD until
I needed my VM test platform to travel with me, going to a 240GB SSD has
solved the problem for the moment.

--
A cheap shot is a terrible thing to waste.

On 1/3/2014 3:36 PM, Parko wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:14:56 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On 1/02/2014, Gene E. Bloch posted:
On 1/02/2014, Ron posted:
On 1/2/2014 8:25 AM, Parko wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:50:16 -0500, Ron wrote:

Enough of that. I'd avoid the hybrid drives, I think they're a
gimmick.

And why is that? I've been using one on a Toshiba laptop for a
little over a year now and I think it's great.

They add a layer of needless complexity in a device that's going to
be knocked about.


The speed of a SSD and the storage space of a HDD isn't needless to
me. I think it's a great idea. And my laptops don't get "knocked
about".

Besides that, SSDs are not mechanical devices. It would take more than
a "knock" to damage one of them.

Of course, in the above I meant to refer specifically to the SSD part of
a hybrid drive. And it is in a way an elaboration and expansion of the
idea of a hard drive cache. You might think of that as a proven
technology :-)

Which is the reason why I'll be replacing the HDD in my new notebook with
an SSD fairly shortly. Why you need a large capacity HDD in a notebook is
beyond me when you have cloud storage.




Both of my laptops have 17.3" screens...IOW, they are desktop
replacements. And where can I get over 1 TB of free cloud storage? Not
that I wanna store my stuff on a "cloud" anyway. I don't even use Skydrive.

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:38:17 -0800, DevilsPGD
wrote:

In the last episode of , Parko
said:

Which is the reason why I'll be replacing the HDD in my new notebook with
an SSD fairly shortly. Why you need a large capacity HDD in a notebook is
beyond me when you have cloud storage.

Cloud storage relies upon having fast, reliable network access. This is
difficult to obtain on a notebook, at least if you do any sort of
international travel.

s/international travel/travel

It doesn't have to be international to be difficult.

In the last episode of ,
Char Jackson said:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:38:17 -0800, DevilsPGD
wrote:

In the last episode of , Parko
said:

Which is the reason why I'll be replacing the HDD in my new notebook with
an SSD fairly shortly. Why you need a large capacity HDD in a notebook is
beyond me when you have cloud storage.

Cloud storage relies upon having fast, reliable network access. This is
difficult to obtain on a notebook, at least if you do any sort of
international travel.

s/international travel/travel

It doesn't have to be international to be difficult.

Domestic travel is generally less painful because you can bring mobile
data with you at a reasonable price, and you're more likely to know what
hotels have reasonable internet access, what stores/restaurants/coffee
shops have free access, etc.

Sure, it's more complicated than getting access from your own
livingroom, but at least in my experience, the further I go from home,
the more difficult it is to get reliable internet access.

--
Don't you hate rhetorical questions?

On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:53:20 -0800, DevilsPGD
wrote:

Domestic travel is generally less painful because you can bring mobile
data with you at a reasonable price, and you're more likely to know what
hotels have reasonable internet access, what stores/restaurants/coffee
shops have free access, etc.

Sure, it's more complicated than getting access from your own
livingroom, but at least in my experience, the further I go from home,
the more difficult it is to get reliable internet access.



That's not my experience; I've had reliable internet access in many
parts of the world. And using the internet before leaving home, it's
easy to find "hotels [that] have reasonable internet access, what
stores/restaurants/coffee shops have free access, etc."

When I travel to Europe, I often stay in apartments rather than
hotels, and I've had very good luck choosing apartments based, at
least in part, on their advertising reliable fast internet access. For
example, just over a year ago, my wife and I stayed in a very nice
relatively inexpensive apartment in Rome for two weeks, and the Wi-Fi
it came with was fast and reliable.