is XP SP2 RC2 advisable for the average FCKGW user?

Greetings --

Actually, you've only quoted other sources who say Microsoft will
allow pirates to install SP2; I haven't seen anything directly from
Microsoft to this affect. (And anyone who trusts the Register as a
source of accurate information, particularly concerning software and
Microsoft, is really in for a shock, someday.)

And, just out of curiosity, is your SuSE Linux fully patched?
When I installed the newest version (9.1) last week, I then had to
download and install 41 security patches. (I'm not anti-Linux, by any
means, but no one should ever believe that _any_ OS is bullet-proof.)


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"perfb" wrote in message
om...
Why do you think that you should receive a service packs for a
product you
have no even paid for ?


because I read that M$ had announced it was making SP2 available to
all.

http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/0....shtml?tid=201

Evidently, there has been a purge/pogrom in the M$ politburo
and history has now been rewritten and all such statements
are now consigned to memoryhole.org.

or, according to TheRegister, perhaps what the M$ minister of
disinformation really meant
was that the old SP1 keygen approach still works with SP2.

I, for one, will be too busy enjoying Suse Linux with Crossover to
care
what new vulnerabilities, exploits, and spyware have been introduced
with XP SP2.

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
Greetings --

Actually, you've only quoted other sources who say Microsoft will
allow pirates to install SP2; I haven't seen anything directly from
Microsoft to this affect.

actually reading the links, one reads as follows:

"We haven't explicitly done anything to SP2 to exclude it from pirated
copies," said Microsoft group product manager Barry Goffe."


(And anyone who trusts the Register as a
source of accurate information, particularly concerning software and
Microsoft, is really in for a shock, someday.)


yawn

And, just out of curiosity, is your SuSE Linux fully patched?

probably not.

When I installed the newest version (9.1) last week, I then had to
download and install 41 security patches. (I'm not anti-Linux, by any
means, but no one should ever believe that _any_ OS is bullet-proof.)



yep

Bruce Chambers
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"perfb" wrote in message
om...
Why do you think that you should receive a service packs for a
product you
have no even paid for ?


because I read that M$ had announced it was making SP2 available to
all.

http://slashdot.org/articles/04/05/0....shtml?tid=201

Evidently, there has been a purge/pogrom in the M$ politburo
and history has now been rewritten and all such statements
are now consigned to memoryhole.org.

or, according to TheRegister, perhaps what the M$ minister of
disinformation really meant
was that the old SP1 keygen approach still works with SP2.

I, for one, will be too busy enjoying Suse Linux with Crossover to
care
what new vulnerabilities, exploits, and spyware have been introduced
with XP SP2.

"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in message

Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of Windows
XP.

not true! i own a oem version of xp that came with my laptop. after
installing xp sp2 last week my laptop is dead as door nail when it
comes to connectivity to outside world. i can connect to my wireless
admin port and internal webserver just fine but when i attempt to go
outside ie just sitting there doing blank page stare...no time out or
anything. disable proxy that came with sp2 is no help neither. if i
boot up my pc with no wlan card and then pluck it in later the linksys
not even assign me an ip. before i can do wlan card insert before,
during or after the boot up and i was ready to go. my immediate choice
is to back out this crap...even backing out it screwed up all of my
previous setting. my concern right now is to get internet connectivity
so i haven't test all of my other apps yet. sad that i'm spending time
to fix what this piece of crap is doing to my computer. my advice, if
you have no problem with your computer security, skip this upgrade.
you probably need a phd in cs to make this work. a simple proxy and
virus scan apps from third party work better than what ms is giving
us.

You installed SP2 "beta" and as such it is not the final version.
Beta programs often have bugs or compatibility issues, that's
why one should not install it on anything but a "test machine".
You really should "skip" installing beta software unless you
understand the ramifications of installing beta software.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"newton klea" wrote in message:
m...

| not true! i own a oem version of xp that came with my laptop. after
| installing xp sp2 last week my laptop is dead as door nail when it
| comes to connectivity to outside world. i can connect to my wireless
| admin port and internal webserver just fine but when i attempt to go
| outside ie just sitting there doing blank page stare...no time out or
| anything. disable proxy that came with sp2 is no help neither. if i
| boot up my pc with no wlan card and then pluck it in later the linksys
| not even assign me an ip. before i can do wlan card insert before,
| during or after the boot up and i was ready to go. my immediate choice
| is to back out this crap...even backing out it screwed up all of my
| previous setting. my concern right now is to get internet connectivity
| so i haven't test all of my other apps yet. sad that i'm spending time
| to fix what this piece of crap is doing to my computer. my advice, if
| you have no problem with your computer security, skip this upgrade.
| you probably need a phd in cs to make this work. a simple proxy and
| virus scan apps from third party work better than what ms is giving
| us.

"newton klea" wrote in message
m
"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in
message

Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of
Windows XP.

not true! i own a oem version of xp that came with my laptop. after
installing xp sp2 last week my laptop is dead as door nail when it
comes to connectivity to outside world. i can connect to my wireless
admin port and internal webserver just fine but when i attempt to go
outside ie just sitting there doing blank page stare...no time out or
anything. disable proxy that came with sp2 is no help neither. if i
boot up my pc with no wlan card and then pluck it in later the linksys
not even assign me an ip. before i can do wlan card insert before,
during or after the boot up and i was ready to go. my immediate choice
is to back out this crap...even backing out it screwed up all of my
previous setting. my concern right now is to get internet connectivity
so i haven't test all of my other apps yet. sad that i'm spending time
to fix what this piece of crap is doing to my computer. my advice, if
you have no problem with your computer security, skip this upgrade.
you probably need a phd in cs to make this work. a simple proxy and
virus scan apps from third party work better than what ms is giving
us.

Why don't these people ever use proper puctuation in their rambles?

Haven't you ever heard of separating your thoughts by using short, concise
paragraphs?
Haven't you ever heard of using commas or semi-colons to separate clauses?
Have you never heard of the convention of using two spaces to separate
sentences?
Didn't you know that the first word in a sentence is always capitalized?
The personal pronoun, "I", should always be capitalized.
Use a semi-colon (";") instead of an ellipsis ("...") to separate complex
sentences.
Use "an" before words which begin with a vowel.
"Pluck" is a verb meaning "pull" or "pick up", not "put"
"Disable proxy" at the beginning of a sentence implies the presence of a
second person to whom you are speaking a command. The proper clause should
be "Disabling the proxy...") Notice the correct use of an ellipsis: to show
that more text follows, but is not quoted.

By the way, Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2 works perfectly
well on my system, and probably on the systems of a hundred thousand other
persons.

The web page which contains links to download XP SP2, RC2 contains
instructions which state that the Release Candidate is beta software, and
should not be installed on your working system.

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Donald McDaniel wrote:

"newton klea" wrote in message
m

"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in
message

Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of
Windows XP.

not true! i own a oem version of xp that came with my laptop. after
installing xp sp2 last week my laptop is dead as door nail when it
comes to connectivity to outside world. i can connect to my wireless
admin port and internal webserver just fine but when i attempt to go
outside ie just sitting there doing blank page stare...no time out or
anything. disable proxy that came with sp2 is no help neither. if i
boot up my pc with no wlan card and then pluck it in later the linksys
not even assign me an ip. before i can do wlan card insert before,
during or after the boot up and i was ready to go. my immediate choice
is to back out this crap...even backing out it screwed up all of my
previous setting. my concern right now is to get internet connectivity
so i haven't test all of my other apps yet. sad that i'm spending time
to fix what this piece of crap is doing to my computer. my advice, if
you have no problem with your computer security, skip this upgrade.
you probably need a phd in cs to make this work. a simple proxy and
virus scan apps from third party work better than what ms is giving
us.


Why don't these people ever use proper puctuation in their rambles?

Haven't you ever heard of separating your thoughts by using short, concise
paragraphs?
Haven't you ever heard of using commas or semi-colons to separate clauses?
Have you never heard of the convention of using two spaces to separate
sentences?
Didn't you know that the first word in a sentence is always capitalized?
The personal pronoun, "I", should always be capitalized.
Use a semi-colon (";") instead of an ellipsis ("...") to separate complex
sentences.
Use "an" before words which begin with a vowel.
"Pluck" is a verb meaning "pull" or "pick up", not "put"
"Disable proxy" at the beginning of a sentence implies the presence of a
second person to whom you are speaking a command. The proper clause should
be "Disabling the proxy...") Notice the correct use of an ellipsis: to show
that more text follows, but is not quoted.

By the way, Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2 works perfectly
well on my system, and probably on the systems of a hundred thousand other
persons.

The web page which contains links to download XP SP2, RC2 contains
instructions which state that the Release Candidate is beta software, and
should not be installed on your working system.

Hey, maybe the guy is e.e.cummings :-)

gls858

"gls858" wrote in message

Donald McDaniel wrote:

"newton klea" wrote in message
m

"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in
message

Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of
Windows XP.

not true! i own a oem version of xp that came with my laptop. after
installing xp sp2 last week my laptop is dead as door nail when it
comes to connectivity to outside world. i can connect to my wireless
admin port and internal webserver just fine but when i attempt to go
outside ie just sitting there doing blank page stare...no time out
or anything. disable proxy that came with sp2 is no help neither.
if i boot up my pc with no wlan card and then pluck it in later the
linksys not even assign me an ip. before i can do wlan card insert
before, during or after the boot up and i was ready to go. my
immediate choice is to back out this crap...even backing out it
screwed up all of my previous setting. my concern right now is to
get internet connectivity so i haven't test all of my other apps
yet. sad that i'm spending time to fix what this piece of crap is
doing to my computer. my advice, if you have no problem with your
computer security, skip this upgrade. you probably need a phd in cs
to make this work. a simple proxy and virus scan apps from third
party work better than what ms is giving us.


Why don't these people ever use proper puctuation in their rambles?

Haven't you ever heard of separating your thoughts by using short,
concise paragraphs?
Haven't you ever heard of using commas or semi-colons to separate
clauses? Have you never heard of the convention of using two spaces
to separate sentences?
Didn't you know that the first word in a sentence is always
capitalized? The personal pronoun, "I", should always be capitalized.
Use a semi-colon (";") instead of an ellipsis ("...") to separate
complex sentences.
Use "an" before words which begin with a vowel.
"Pluck" is a verb meaning "pull" or "pick up", not "put"
"Disable proxy" at the beginning of a sentence implies the presence
of a second person to whom you are speaking a command. The proper
clause should be "Disabling the proxy...") Notice the correct use
of an ellipsis: to show that more text follows, but is not quoted.

By the way, Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2 works
perfectly well on my system, and probably on the systems of a
hundred thousand other persons.

The web page which contains links to download XP SP2, RC2 contains
instructions which state that the Release Candidate is beta
software, and should not be installed on your working system.

Hey, maybe the guy is e.e.cummings :-)

gls858

I never read any of E. E. Cummings' poetry. I can make no judgment about
his use of the English language.

However, from what I've heard of E.E. Cummings, this guy is no E. E.
Cummings.

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Donald McDaniel wrote:
"gls858" wrote in message


Donald McDaniel wrote:


"newton klea" wrote in message
.com


"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" wrote in
message


Windows XP SP2 works perfectly well with legally licensed copies of
Windows XP.

not true! i own a oem version of xp that came with my laptop. after
installing xp sp2 last week my laptop is dead as door nail when it
comes to connectivity to outside world. i can connect to my wireless
admin port and internal webserver just fine but when i attempt to go
outside ie just sitting there doing blank page stare...no time out
or anything. disable proxy that came with sp2 is no help neither.
if i boot up my pc with no wlan card and then pluck it in later the
linksys not even assign me an ip. before i can do wlan card insert
before, during or after the boot up and i was ready to go. my
immediate choice is to back out this crap...even backing out it
screwed up all of my previous setting. my concern right now is to
get internet connectivity so i haven't test all of my other apps
yet. sad that i'm spending time to fix what this piece of crap is
doing to my computer. my advice, if you have no problem with your
computer security, skip this upgrade. you probably need a phd in cs
to make this work. a simple proxy and virus scan apps from third
party work better than what ms is giving us.


Why don't these people ever use proper puctuation in their rambles?

Haven't you ever heard of separating your thoughts by using short,
concise paragraphs?
Haven't you ever heard of using commas or semi-colons to separate
clauses? Have you never heard of the convention of using two spaces
to separate sentences?
Didn't you know that the first word in a sentence is always
capitalized? The personal pronoun, "I", should always be capitalized.
Use a semi-colon (";") instead of an ellipsis ("...") to separate
complex sentences.
Use "an" before words which begin with a vowel.
"Pluck" is a verb meaning "pull" or "pick up", not "put"
"Disable proxy" at the beginning of a sentence implies the presence
of a second person to whom you are speaking a command. The proper
clause should be "Disabling the proxy...") Notice the correct use
of an ellipsis: to show that more text follows, but is not quoted.

By the way, Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2 works
perfectly well on my system, and probably on the systems of a
hundred thousand other persons.

The web page which contains links to download XP SP2, RC2 contains
instructions which state that the Release Candidate is beta
software, and should not be installed on your working system.


Hey, maybe the guy is e.e.cummings :-)

gls858


I never read any of E. E. Cummings' poetry. I can make no judgment about
his use of the English language.

However, from what I've heard of E.E. Cummings, this guy is no E. E.
Cummings.

One of cummings quirks was didn't use capitals or punctuation.
At least that's what I remember from ages back :-)

gls858

In ,
gls858 typed:

One of cummings quirks was didn't use capitals or punctuation.
At least that's what I remember from ages back :-)


Not quite. e. e. cummings spelled his name without capitals, but
with periods after the initials. His verse generally used most
punctuation marks (commas, etc.) but had few periods (but some)
and few capitals (but also some)

And his novel "The Enormous Room" used regular typography; there
was nothing particularly strange about the use of capitals or
punctuation there.

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