SP2 for non-IT people

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and install
it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates or Windows
updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network
Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is not meant for
home use.

In ,
jeff4379 typed:

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download
it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic
updates
or Windows updates.


No, that's not a reason to wait.


The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and
Developers is
not meant for home use.


It's meant for any kind of use, home or otherwise. It's an image
of the complete installation CD. For that reason, it's
big--266MB. If you get it from Windows Update, it will be
smaller--80-100MB or so--because it will be customized for *your*
computer.

Other than its being a larger download, there is no disadvantage
to the Network Installation download, for home users or any other
kind of users. And the Network Installation package has the
advantage for many people (even home users) that a single
download will let them use it on several computers.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

It is if you have a number of machines on a network, then there are the
friends and neighbours who rely on you to consider as well.


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"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and
install
it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates or Windows
updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network
Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is not meant for
home use.




What a load of rubbish.

So the fact that microsoft explicitly says "IF YOU ARE A HOME USER, DO NOT
DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION" means nothing to you? I see...obviously you know
more than microsoft.

From MS website:

This installation package is intended for IT professionals and developers
downloading and installing on multiple computers on a network. If you're
updating just one computer, please visit http://www.microsoft.com/protect

(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9DBE-3B8E-4F30
-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en)







"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
jeff4379 typed:

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download
it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic
updates
or Windows updates.


No, that's not a reason to wait.


The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and
Developers is
not meant for home use.


It's meant for any kind of use, home or otherwise. It's an image
of the complete installation CD. For that reason, it's
big--266MB. If you get it from Windows Update, it will be
smaller--80-100MB or so--because it will be customized for *your*
computer.

Other than its being a larger download, there is no disadvantage
to the Network Installation download, for home users or any other
kind of users. And the Network Installation package has the
advantage for many people (even home users) that a single
download will let them use it on several computers.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Rubish? Please furnish some proof to that claim.


"Gordon" wrote in message
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"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and
install
it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates or Windows
updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network
Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is not meant
for
home use.




What a load of rubbish.

I wouldn't give this download to a friend or family member. Personally, as
an IT Professional, I am waiting serveral months to install this update
(after extensively testing it on a non-production machine)

Jeff


"D M" wrote in message
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It is if you have a number of machines on a network, then there are the
friends and neighbours who rely on you to consider as well.


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Here is exactly why I would not give a blanket statement saying "everyone
shoudl install SP2 right away"

http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2




"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and
install
it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates or Windows
updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network
Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is not meant for
home use.

That's just because they don't want that server to get slammed by millions
of users trying to download it. They want it available for business users.
The windows update server can handle alot more traffic and downloads, so
that's why they want home users to wait. It's just a bandwidth issue, not an
issue with the network version and home users.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

So the fact that microsoft explicitly says "IF YOU ARE A HOME USER,
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION" means nothing to you? I
see...obviously you know more than microsoft.

From MS website:

This installation package is intended for IT professionals and
developers downloading and installing on multiple computers on a
network. If you're updating just one computer, please visit
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9DBE-3B8E-4F30
-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en)







"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
jeff4379 typed:

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download
it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic
updates
or Windows updates.


No, that's not a reason to wait.


The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and
Developers is
not meant for home use.


It's meant for any kind of use, home or otherwise. It's an image
of the complete installation CD. For that reason, it's
big--266MB. If you get it from Windows Update, it will be
smaller--80-100MB or so--because it will be customized for *your*
computer.

Other than its being a larger download, there is no disadvantage
to the Network Installation download, for home users or any other
kind of users. And the Network Installation package has the
advantage for many people (even home users) that a single
download will let them use it on several computers.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

I'm sure there are many more than just one server uploading that file, and
that bandwidth is not an issue on Microsoft's side...But the fact is
Microsoft says explicitly not to download this IT PROFESSIONAL AND
DEVELOPERS version if you are updating you home pc.


"Phil" wrote in message
...
That's just because they don't want that server to get slammed by millions
of users trying to download it. They want it available for business users.
The windows update server can handle alot more traffic and downloads, so
that's why they want home users to wait. It's just a bandwidth issue, not
an
issue with the network version and home users.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

So the fact that microsoft explicitly says "IF YOU ARE A HOME USER,
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION" means nothing to you? I
see...obviously you know more than microsoft.

From MS website:

This installation package is intended for IT professionals and
developers downloading and installing on multiple computers on a
network. If you're updating just one computer, please visit
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9DBE-3B8E-4F30
-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en)







"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
jeff4379 typed:

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download
it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic
updates
or Windows updates.


No, that's not a reason to wait.


The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and
Developers is
not meant for home use.


It's meant for any kind of use, home or otherwise. It's an image
of the complete installation CD. For that reason, it's
big--266MB. If you get it from Windows Update, it will be
smaller--80-100MB or so--because it will be customized for *your*
computer.

Other than its being a larger download, there is no disadvantage
to the Network Installation download, for home users or any other
kind of users. And the Network Installation package has the
advantage for many people (even home users) that a single
download will let them use it on several computers.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

I'm using at least 10 of those listed programs with not one problem, error,
crash, or hic-up with SP2. All works fine for me. Says on the site that it
may cause problems. Didn't for me. I say, install it, if you have probs,
uninstall it until the software companies update their software.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

Here is exactly why I would not give a blanket statement saying
"everyone shoudl install SP2 right away"

http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2




"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates
or Windows updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is
not meant for home use.

Like I just said, they only say that because they want home users to use
windows update or automatic updates. They don't want 10 million home users
downloading the 250+mb version from the network install site. Bandwidth is
an issue as it costs ms money to offer these updates via the net. Everyone
pays for bandwidth, even ms.
There is absolutely NO difference at all between the two versions except one
is the full version and one is the express version. MS would rather have you
download the smaller express version because most won't need everything the
full version updates as they may have some sp2 updates installed already.
Yes, ms says for home users not to download that version, I don't dispute
that. I'm just telling you why they say that. Home users with broadband
connections can do the network version with no probs. I've already installed
the network version on 10+ home versions without one problem at all.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

I'm sure there are many more than just one server uploading that
file, and that bandwidth is not an issue on Microsoft's side...But
the fact is Microsoft says explicitly not to download this IT
PROFESSIONAL AND DEVELOPERS version if you are updating you home pc.


"Phil" wrote in message
...
That's just because they don't want that server to get slammed by
millions of users trying to download it. They want it available for
business users. The windows update server can handle alot more
traffic and downloads, so that's why they want home users to wait.
It's just a bandwidth issue, not an issue with the network version
and home users.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

So the fact that microsoft explicitly says "IF YOU ARE A HOME USER,
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION" means nothing to you? I
see...obviously you know more than microsoft.

From MS website:

This installation package is intended for IT professionals and
developers downloading and installing on multiple computers on a
network. If you're updating just one computer, please visit
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9DBE-3B8E-4F30
-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en)







"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
jeff4379 typed:

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download
it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic
updates
or Windows updates.


No, that's not a reason to wait.


The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and
Developers is
not meant for home use.


It's meant for any kind of use, home or otherwise. It's an image
of the complete installation CD. For that reason, it's
big--266MB. If you get it from Windows Update, it will be
smaller--80-100MB or so--because it will be customized for *your*
computer.

Other than its being a larger download, there is no disadvantage
to the Network Installation download, for home users or any other
kind of users. And the Network Installation package has the
advantage for many people (even home users) that a single
download will let them use it on several computers.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Yes, those programs 'behave differently.' They do not stop working, at
least the ones I have. The different behavior is because of the Security
Center now built in. Outlook etc. run perfectly well...but the behavior is
slightly changed.


"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
Here is exactly why I would not give a blanket statement saying "everyone
shoudl install SP2 right away"

http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2




"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and
install
it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates or Windows
updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network
Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is not meant for
home use.

Regardless of what the website says, that is perfectly suitable for
home users.
Once installed there is no difference from the Express Installation.
If you think there is a difference once installed, please cite the
source for this information.
Microsoft prefers home users use the Express download because it is
smaller.
Thus there will be less a burden on the servers and those that are
ready for SP-2 can get it sooner.

If someone has multiple computers to update, even a home user, this
download can easily be best for them.

Judging from another post of yours in this thread it now seems you
have a different reason based on the link you posted.
Many have no issues at all with any of those applications.
That is why it says "Programs that may..."
No one is suggesting anyone give a "blanket statement saying "everyone
should install SP2 right away" "
where have you seen such a statement?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"jeff4379" wrote in message
...
If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download it and
install
it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic updates or
Windows
updates. The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network
Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers is not
meant for
home use.

Whether or not the download works or not is not the issue either. Unless I
see something on the MS site that says it is ok for a common user to
download this package, I will not suggest it.

What you suggest about bandwidth makes sense, but that is not an official
microsoft answer.

Can you difinitively say that there is no difference between the current IT
and Developer release and the AU/WU release?
"Phil" wrote in message
...
Like I just said, they only say that because they want home users to use
windows update or automatic updates. They don't want 10 million home users
downloading the 250+mb version from the network install site. Bandwidth is
an issue as it costs ms money to offer these updates via the net. Everyone
pays for bandwidth, even ms.
There is absolutely NO difference at all between the two versions except
one
is the full version and one is the express version. MS would rather have
you
download the smaller express version because most won't need everything
the
full version updates as they may have some sp2 updates installed already.
Yes, ms says for home users not to download that version, I don't dispute
that. I'm just telling you why they say that. Home users with broadband
connections can do the network version with no probs. I've already
installed
the network version on 10+ home versions without one problem at all.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

I'm sure there are many more than just one server uploading that
file, and that bandwidth is not an issue on Microsoft's side...But
the fact is Microsoft says explicitly not to download this IT
PROFESSIONAL AND DEVELOPERS version if you are updating you home pc.


"Phil" wrote in message
...
That's just because they don't want that server to get slammed by
millions of users trying to download it. They want it available for
business users. The windows update server can handle alot more
traffic and downloads, so that's why they want home users to wait.
It's just a bandwidth issue, not an issue with the network version
and home users.

"jeff4379" wrote in message

So the fact that microsoft explicitly says "IF YOU ARE A HOME USER,
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS VERSION" means nothing to you? I
see...obviously you know more than microsoft.

From MS website:

This installation package is intended for IT professionals and
developers downloading and installing on multiple computers on a
network. If you're updating just one computer, please visit
http://www.microsoft.com/protect



(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9DBE-3B8E-4F30
-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en)







"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
jeff4379 typed:

If you are not an IT professional testing SP2, don't download
it and
install it. Wait until you are offered it through automatic
updates
or Windows updates.


No, that's not a reason to wait.


The current version: Windows XP Service Pack 2
Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and
Developers is
not meant for home use.


It's meant for any kind of use, home or otherwise. It's an image
of the complete installation CD. For that reason, it's
big--266MB. If you get it from Windows Update, it will be
smaller--80-100MB or so--because it will be customized for *your*
computer.

Other than its being a larger download, there is no disadvantage
to the Network Installation download, for home users or any other
kind of users. And the Network Installation package has the
advantage for many people (even home users) that a single
download will let them use it on several computers.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup