Is there any reason to wait for SP2?

"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
Anarchist!

ROFL! I prefer being called, Anti-christ.

Get a clue or dictionary.

"happyjackret" wrote in message
...
DO I need to put Zone Alarm Pro and Norton on disable before downloading
SP2
or will it download with these programs running? Thanks

Download is no problem. Disable Norton and remove ZoneAlarm before
installing SP2.

If you only have one disk and one partition,
I would spend your time making sure you have your P/C in
good shape hardware wise,
and all the current drivers installed,
to reduce the SP2 install risk.

If you can not backup to a CD or second partiton / drive,
and something does go wrong,
all those driver intall and any licensed program packages
you downloaded, e-mail PST fles,
and the 266MB IT SP2 file will be gone.
If the disk is bad find out now.
This means you are staring over.

Do a Chkdsk from computer, tools tab and check both boxes.
re-boot and let the disk be scanned complertly.

Create a folder called BKUPSP1
Run a disk intensive program, NTBAckup to this folder for
the a C: partiton, SSI, and under the +C: folders,
deselect tthe BKUPSP1 folder. Run wuth the compare after
option to insure readable, in advanced tabs.
Then do it again and call the backup file "FreeSpacefor
SP1Scrub.bkf"
You can delete it just before install of SP2.
This will tell you that your disk is good and that the
next GB of space is good. Now delete the
file "FreeSpacefor SP1Scrub.bkf" just before you install
( turnoff off AV, disconnect from net, D-click IT 266 MB
file and don't turn on / off any appliacinces.

Risk is limited now to internal hareware or incompat
programs which will need to be fixed or upgraded anyway.



SJ

-----Original Message-----
DO I need to put Zone Alarm Pro and Norton on disable
before downloading SP2
or will it download with these programs running? Thanks

"kurttrail" wrote:

Nehmo Sergheyev wrote:

I only have one Win XP Home (SP1) machine, and on
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
FamilyId=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-
9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en
it says,
" DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE
COMPUTER: A
smaller, more appropriate download will be available
soon on Windows
Update...".

But, with all this talk, I don't want to wait for
SP2. I can stand
giving up some disk space, but what does MS mean
by "more
appropriate"?

MS is trying to scare the average computer user into
turning on Auto Update.
And just reading this group shows that Auto Update
just confuses the
downloading process of SP2.


In other words, can I just install the SP2 MS
provides for " IT
Professionals and Developers"?

Yes.

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root wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Anarchist!

ROFL! I prefer being called, Anti-christ.

Get a clue or dictionary.

Why? I know what an anarchist is, and I am not one. I'm a Liberal, and I'm
damned proud of it.

Liberalism - A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans
and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political
liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and
protection from arbitrary authority.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
Nehmo Sergheyev wrote:

- Nehmo -
In other words, can I just install the SP2 MS provides for " IT
Professionals and Developers"?

- Hamman-
no, wait your turn

- Nehmo -
Why?

Because he believes MicroPropaganda.

No, because all the home users downloading the larger update are slowing
down the downloads for network admins [like me]

hamman

"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
root wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Anarchist!

ROFL! I prefer being called, Anti-christ.

Get a clue or dictionary.

Why? I know what an anarchist is, and I am not one. I'm a Liberal, and
I'm
damned proud of it.

My mistake...you had it right all along....Anti-christ.

Hamman wrote:

No, because all the home users downloading the larger update are
slowing down the downloads for network admins [like me]

hamman

Then you should complain to MS. They have God-knows how many billions of
dollars in the bank, but are too cheap to add enough bandwidth at times of
high demand, like releasing a Service Pack!

Put the blame where it belongs! Blame the cheap arrogant *******s in
Redmond!

--
Peace!
Kurt
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

root wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
root wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Anarchist!

ROFL! I prefer being called, Anti-christ.

Get a clue or dictionary.

Why? I know what an anarchist is, and I am not one. I'm a Liberal,
and I'm damned proud of it.

My mistake...

Exactly!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

kurttrail wrote:
Hamman wrote:

No, because all the home users downloading the larger update are
slowing down the downloads for network admins [like me]

hamman

Then you should complain to MS. They have God-knows how many
billions of dollars in the bank, but are too cheap to add enough
bandwidth at times of high demand, like releasing a Service Pack!

Put the blame where it belongs!

Ah... that would be the linux servers used by their contractor for downloads.

Blame the cheap arrogant *******s in
Redmond!

No, wrong placement.

Diogenes wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
Hamman wrote:

No, because all the home users downloading the larger update are
slowing down the downloads for network admins [like me]

hamman

Then you should complain to MS. They have God-knows how many
billions of dollars in the bank, but are too cheap to add enough
bandwidth at times of high demand, like releasing a Service Pack!

Put the blame where it belongs!

Ah... that would be the linux servers used by their contractor for
downloads.

Those servers could handle all the bandwidth that MS is willing to pay for.
And MS could contract with others to provide more bandwidth at times of high
demand like now, but MS rather trick people into Auto Update trickle
downloading of SP2 over days.


Blame the cheap arrogant *******s in
Redmond!

No, wrong placement.

It's all the fault of Linux? You are just full of it.

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Kurt
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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kurttrail wrote:
Diogenes wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
Hamman wrote:

No, because all the home users downloading the larger update are
slowing down the downloads for network admins [like me]

hamman

Then you should complain to MS. They have God-knows how many
billions of dollars in the bank, but are too cheap to add enough
bandwidth at times of high demand, like releasing a Service Pack!

Put the blame where it belongs!

Ah... that would be the linux servers used by their contractor for
downloads.

Those servers could handle all the bandwidth that MS is willing to
pay for. And MS could contract with others to provide more bandwidth
at times of high demand like now, but MS rather trick people into
Auto Update trickle downloading of SP2 over days.


Blame the cheap arrogant *******s in
Redmond!

No, wrong placement.

It's all the fault of Linux? You are just full of it.

I am shocked that you would say that. Shocked! :-D

- Nehmo -
I might just live dangerously and just install SP2 without a lot of
precautions. I already downloaded it. I'm going to leave firewall ZA
working, but I'll close everything else, including anti-virus AVG.

I assume SP2 will create its own pre-install restore point.

I'll see you on the other side.

[I toppost when messages close in on 51 lines; Google Groups archives
truncates messages there.]

- SlowJet -
If you only have one disk and one partition,
I would spend your time making sure you have your P/C in
good shape hardware wise,
and all the current drivers installed,
to reduce the SP2 install risk.

If you can not backup to a CD or second partiton / drive,
and something does go wrong,
all those driver intall and any licensed program packages
you downloaded, e-mail PST fles,
and the 266MB IT SP2 file will be gone.
If the disk is bad find out now.
This means you are staring over.

Do a Chkdsk from computer, tools tab and check both boxes.
re-boot and let the disk be scanned complertly.

Create a folder called BKUPSP1
Run a disk intensive program, NTBAckup to this folder for
the a C: partiton, SSI, and under the +C: folders,
deselect tthe BKUPSP1 folder. Run wuth the compare after
option to insure readable, in advanced tabs.
Then do it again and call the backup file "FreeSpacefor
SP1Scrub.bkf"
You can delete it just before install of SP2.
This will tell you that your disk is good and that the
next GB of space is good. Now delete the
file "FreeSpacefor SP1Scrub.bkf" just before you install
( turnoff off AV, disconnect from net, D-click IT 266 MB
file and don't turn on / off any appliacinces.

Risk is limited now to internal hareware or incompat
programs which will need to be fixed or upgraded anyway.

--
*********************
* Nehmo Sergheyev *
*********************

Diogenes wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
Diogenes wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
Hamman wrote:

No, because all the home users downloading the larger update are
slowing down the downloads for network admins [like me]

hamman

Then you should complain to MS. They have God-knows how many
billions of dollars in the bank, but are too cheap to add enough
bandwidth at times of high demand, like releasing a Service Pack!

Put the blame where it belongs!

Ah... that would be the linux servers used by their contractor for
downloads.

Those servers could handle all the bandwidth that MS is willing to
pay for. And MS could contract with others to provide more bandwidth
at times of high demand like now, but MS rather trick people into
Auto Update trickle downloading of SP2 over days.


Blame the cheap arrogant *******s in
Redmond!

No, wrong placement.

It's all the fault of Linux? You are just full of it.

I am shocked that you would say that. Shocked! :-D

I have admitted to being an Anti-christ, so anything I say or do should not
shock anyone. ;-)

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

Good, about time for someone brave and crazy.

I would wait around but the crouds have all the good
seats in the coffe shop. lol



Sj
-----Original Message-----
- Nehmo -
I might just live dangerously and just install SP2
without a lot of
precautions. I already downloaded it. I'm going to leave
firewall ZA
working, but I'll close everything else, including anti-
virus AVG.

I assume SP2 will create its own pre-install restore
point.

I'll see you on the other side.

[I toppost when messages close in on 51 lines; Google
Groups archives
truncates messages there.]

- SlowJet -
If you only have one disk and one partition,
I would spend your time making sure you have your P/C
in
good shape hardware wise,
and all the current drivers installed,
to reduce the SP2 install risk.

If you can not backup to a CD or second partiton /
drive,
and something does go wrong,
all those driver intall and any licensed program
packages
you downloaded, e-mail PST fles,
and the 266MB IT SP2 file will be gone.
If the disk is bad find out now.
This means you are staring over.

Do a Chkdsk from computer, tools tab and check both
boxes.
re-boot and let the disk be scanned complertly.

Create a folder called BKUPSP1
Run a disk intensive program, NTBAckup to this folder
for
the a C: partiton, SSI, and under the +C: folders,
deselect tthe BKUPSP1 folder. Run wuth the compare
after
option to insure readable, in advanced tabs.
Then do it again and call the backup file "FreeSpacefor
SP1Scrub.bkf"
You can delete it just before install of SP2.
This will tell you that your disk is good and that the
next GB of space is good. Now delete the
file "FreeSpacefor SP1Scrub.bkf" just before you
install
( turnoff off AV, disconnect from net, D-click IT 266
MB
file and don't turn on / off any appliacinces.

Risk is limited now to internal hareware or incompat
programs which will need to be fixed or upgraded
anyway.

--
*********************
* Nehmo Sergheyev *
*********************


.

Nope, there is no reason to wait for SP2.

a) SP2 Network Install and Windows Update install will be pretty the same -
the Windows Update Version will be much smaller, as it checks you PC for the
stuff it needs. The Network Installer is contains everything - whatever you
need for updating lots of PCs.

Maybe there will be some bugfixes for the Windows Update Version of WinXP
SP2, there is some trouble with Microsoft Software and the new firewall.

But the bluetooth funktionality rocks! =)

Greetings,
Hans