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At Least FIVE Anti-Spyware Programs
If they want to be completely safe, yes, at least at this point. No one app
can protect you from or find/remove all hijackware. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org D. Spencer Hines wrote: Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? |
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Your answer is BS. It depends on how the host file is used. It can indeed
be a viable solution. Tom "Frank" wrote in message ... Hosts files really drag down the performance of a boxen, therefore not a viable solution. Gerry Cornell wrote: What about a Hosts file? "R. McCarty" wrote in message ... Perhaps, personally I load customer's machines with AdAware, Spybot, MS-AntiSpyware (Defender) & several URL's for on-line scans. I've now gone as far as to create a "Security" Toolbar with all these tools on a prominent place on the TaskBar to help customers remember to update and use them regularly. Threats change & evolve constantly - there is no Static type of solution that will keep them at bay. The Internet is a dangerous place to play with no proper protections. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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"R. McCarty" wrote in message
... Perhaps, personally I load customer's machines with AdAware, Spybot, MS-AntiSpyware (Defender) & several URL's for on-line scans. I've now gone as far as to create a "Security" Toolbar with all these tools on a prominent place on the TaskBar to help customers remember to update and use them regularly. Threats change & evolve constantly - there is no Static type of solution that will keep them at bay. The Internet is a dangerous place to play with no proper protections. Bromide. Who said anything about a Static Type Of Solution? DSH "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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Sounds Sensible.
I use Norton. DSH "Fuzzy Logic" wrote in message ... "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in : Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. If you practice safe surfing and properly configure your browser you won't get malware. "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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At Least FIVE Anti-Spyware Programs
Try teaching Grandmother to suck eggs next time.
DSH "Alan" wrote in message ... It doesn't really matter what others do, what matters is that *you* protect *your* machine to a level that *you* feel is adequate. If you feel one program is sufficient that is fine. And if someone else thinks they need five that is fine too. Even with ten pieces of software it won't affect your machine. Make *your* own choice. What I have on my machine (and what others have on their machines) doesn't affect your machine. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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No, you said: "I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first
five." _AT LEAST_ DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... - Immunization. Since I know they are unlikely to change their habits - two of the first five (remember - I suggest the *first* five - not roll-your-own) |
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Shenan Stanley wrote
- Immunization. Since I know they are unlikely to change their habits - two of the first five (remember - I suggest the *first* five - not roll-your-own) D. Spencer Hines wrote: No, you said: "I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five." _AT LEAST_ Yes - which still is completely accurate. You seem to enjoy taking things out of context.. Let's quote all that you left out and should have left in, shall we? "Since I know they are unlikely to change their habits - two of the first five (remember - I suggest the *first* five - not roll-your-own) do nothing more than install registry values that will basically keep you from visiting some of the worst pages out there. - Subsets and Supersets. If there was one that caught and eliminated everything - my list would grow shorter. There isn't. I have had luck with those first three getting most things - and what those won't get, number 6 and 7 usually flushed out. I don't suggest (off the cuff) they install and use #6 or #7 (CWShredder and HijackThis) because those take a little knowledge - well - at least HijackThis does. I may rethink and say "At least the first 6" from now on. *grin* Or I might remove "Bazooka" altogether. Usually - if it finds something - it was before AdAware and Spybot ran - and then it could be ran again after those two ran and find nothing." Now - my saying "at least the first five" would imply to any rational thinking person that they should install those and *if* they still have trouble with the spyware they are trying to get rid of - go down the list and continue cleaning. Those first 5 have proven over and over to be sufficient for most cases - both for cleanup and immunization. So - I suggest the first five - NOT roll your own. If they have more trouble than those can handle - I give them options for that as well. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Hilarious!
Shenan Stanley wrote Immunization. Since I know they are unlikely to change their habits - two of the first five (remember - I suggest the *first* five - not roll-your-own) D. Spencer Hines wrote: No, you said: "I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five." Long, Pontificating, Inapposite Verbiage Snipped... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I may rethink and say "At least the first 6" from now on." Shenan Stanley ------------------------------------- So now we are up to SIX Anti-Spyware Programs. Lunacy For The General User! Stanley is talking about people who have suffered an INFECTION and come to HIM for ASSISTANCE -- a TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBSET of PEOPLE. Ergo, Shenan's recommendations are eyewash. 'Nuff Said. DSH |
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
snipping everything irrelevant 'Nuff Said. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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I just run Adaware and Spybot to deal with spyware. Not that they find anything. Then again, I don't visit warez sites either. Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are from me telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall being disabled or program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot ignore them? Watchman -- 'Anyone who isn't confused doesn't really know what's going on' |
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Tonyo UK wrote:
As in medicine, it seems that there are disases for which there are established cures. Now we have "viruses" on computers for which, like many real viruses, there are no known cure. At this point every man and his dog claims to have the only true cure. During the Great Plague (1665) it was apparently a good thing to carry around a posy of herbs to ward off the sickness. And today everyone is making money producing "cures" which may be no better than the herbs. One day, someone will come up with the virtual equivalent of penicillin and then there will only be one cure. Clearly you don't or shouldn't need five programs. This is redolent of the obsessive. But perhaps having two programs available that you can run every once in a while may be no bad thing until the day the real cure emerges. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ The biggest problem that I have run across are people with slow dial up who don't spend the time to update the anti spy wear programs. They complain "it takes so long I don't have all day". |
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Watchman wrote:
I just run Adaware and Spybot to deal with spyware. Not that they find anything. Then again, I don't visit warez sites either. Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are from me telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall being disabled or program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot ignore them? Watchman http://www.safer-networking.org/uk/faq/46.html -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
... How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hilarious! What you really need to write is: "How To Answer Questions The Smart Way" Deus Vult 'Nuff Said. DSH |
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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
Sounds Sensible. I use Norton. That (Norton) is not sensible. Probably the worst possible choice in terms of performance, stability, reliability, and quality of updates. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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Watchman wrote:
I just run Adaware and Spybot to deal with spyware. Not that they find anything. Then again, I don't visit warez sites either. Strangely, Spybot always identifies two things for fixing. Both are from me telling XP that I don't need to be told about my firewall being disabled or program updates. Is there a way to make Spybot ignore them? Watchman Which updates have you disabled? Some application programs or Windows Updates? If you have disabled Windows Updates then you are vulnerable to attacks as exploits to take advantage of newly discovered security flaws in Windows are being released onto the Internet within hours of the security flaws being announced. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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