Build 1074 feels like Linux

A wrote:

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-
notes/2.32/figures/gnome-2-32.png.en_GB
(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start button" at the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE, notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...Mint-Cinnamon-
Desktop.jpg
(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...504-raspberry-
pi-2-screenshot.png
(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system tray and
the taskbar)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png
(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts, I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95. Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware. Linux is more stable.
Windows is not. Linux is free. Windows is not. Those are the main
differences, not eye candy, dumb ass.


Sounds more like Stallmans propaganda than anything else.

GreyCloud wrote:
T wrote:

On 06/12/2015 01:47 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:36:57 -0700, T wrote:

On 06/11/2015 12:56 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
The problem with Linux distros is that when they come out with a new
version they always introduce new bugs.

As opposed to Windows? Oh my goodness!!! M$ has a long history of
patches breaking all kinds of things. And their OS updates have
a habit of breaking most everything, which is the point, so you
have to buy updates and spend $$$$ on programmers, who have to buy
software from M$ to write those programs.

And as far as Linux goes, the things I have noticed getting broken
as trivial. And the new bugs that get introduced a far fewer
than the bugs that get fixed.

And, And, you can always get Red Hat Enterprise Linux (or clones),
where things are locked down from that sort of thing for 10 years!

I can't be sure, but Linux has a .0000005% of the desktop users at the
most ??
If you want to push linux, go somewhere where people give a ****. Linux
desktops suck and the software is unpolished to say the least. Windows
programmers have some problems, but even the crappy programs are better
than what get written for linux****.

Hey, I like that name, Linux****.
Use it for servers and the science community, but never for general use.
Except for stupid people for surfing and email.


KenW


Hi Ken,

Sorehead. This is just friends talking computers. No one
is forcing you to read it.

And things have changed a lot. Try some of the new Live CD's:
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

The only drawback Linux now has is the lack of business
applications. Unfortunately, I don't see that changing
and time soon.

The "surf" crowd should seriously think of an iPad.

-T

By the way, the more OS'es you learn, the more fun
this profession becomes.

For your info... the market place is changing to smart phone/mobile devices.
Desktops are starting to go away slowly.
That's the handwriting you see on the wall.



The question is is it a fad?

--
A

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-
notes/2.32/figures/gnome-2-32.png.en_GB




(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...Mint-Cinnamon-
Desktop.jpg




(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...ntu-mate-1504-
raspberry-pi-2-screenshot.png




(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system tray
and
the taskbar)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png




(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts, I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a crock
of ****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze
the system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKxlYNfT_o

This may explain why linux desktop is only at 1.5%.

A wrote:


Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?

Only if your time has no value.

Roger Blake wrote:

On 2015-06-12, Slimer wrote:
Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.

You are confusing window managers and desktop environments with the base
operating system. Many of them will run on other Unix-type operating
systems.

Check out Enlightenment, wm2, MWM, Afterstep, Twm, FVWM, Sawfish, Fluxbox,
Window Maker, AmiWM, etc., etc. (there are many to choose from) and get
back to us. Here's a fairly comprehensive list you can start with:

http://www.gilesorr.com/wm/table.html

Speaking of original ideas, ever wonder in Windows where the I/O
redirection syntax ( 2&1 etc.) comes from?


Ah yes, UNIX of good old Ma Bell.
Dennis Ritchie comes to mind.

Roger Blake wrote:

On 2015-06-13, T wrote:
Every time I have to use 2&1, I have to look it up in bash's
man page. How many ways can you typo the thing! 2&1 is the
typical one. AAAAAAAHHHHHHH !!!!

Actually I think you're right and I had the typo! It's pretty cryptic
and after all this time I still have to look it up to be sure. Works
great in Windows cmd.exe as well, which was the whole point. :-)

Now try and do the same thing under DCL on VMS.
Maybe that is why it is harder to gain access from the outside by hackers.

On 2015-06-13 5:13 PM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 2:44 PM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 11:35 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:43 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like
Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

What Gates/Jobs stole from Xerox:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rkstations.jpg








So are you saying Xerox Alto/Star is better than Windows (only using
your "logic")

Jobs was the one who "stole" from Xerox and even then, he paid for
the
right to do so. Everyone knows that the modern GUI was ripped off
from
Mac OS and that Atari's TOS and every other imaginable modern
operating
system was the result of it.

Actually, the GUI was ripped off of Xerox. My point was they steal
from
each other.

It was the logical evolution of the operating system. Apple got there
first and paid for the privilege but whether they liked to admit it or
not, a graphical user interface was going to happen whether they liked
it or not. Apple's TOS stole its look from MacOS and was blatantly
about
it, but Windows was only remotely similar even though they got sued.
For
subsequent versions, Apple had no case and they knew it very well.

snip

And MS has stolen stuff from Linux. Seems to be that sort of world
unless you're a user and then you gotta pay.

Name on thing Microsoft has stolen from Linux.



Previews and the way windows open and close in Win 7 and up off the top
of my head. I hear that Win 10 may have more than one workstation like
Linux.

Previews and "the way that windows open and close."

In other words, nothing. Neither comes from Linux, same as the virtual
desktops you're referring to. Linux might have them, but its developers
didn't create them.


We weren't talking about developers but operating systems. No wonder you
can't use Linux if you can't tell the difference between an operating
system and a developer.

That has to be the most retarded statement I have ever read from a
supposed human being.

--
Slimer
Proud "wintroll"
Encrypt.

On 2015-06-13 5:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-
notes/2.32/figures/gnome-2-32.png.en_GB




(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...Mint-Cinnamon-
Desktop.jpg




(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...ntu-mate-1504-
raspberry-pi-2-screenshot.png




(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system tray
and
the taskbar)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png




(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts, I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a crock
of ****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze
the system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKxlYNfT_o

This may explain why linux desktop is only at 1.5%.

The problem is that even when a computer _comes_ with Linux, the
operating system does less of what the customer would expect than the
competition. A customer doesn't want to install his own operating
system, but he'll learn how to do that if whatever he purchased came
with Linux.


--
Slimer
Proud "wintroll"
Encrypt.

On 06/13/2015 12:23 PM, Stef wrote:

[snip]

I remember once in first grade when the teacher made a mistake on a math
test and included something like "3 - 7 = ?". I knew the answer (my
father used to talk about such things), and it was counted wrong. You
were supposed to say there was no solution.

I "like" the Creative Spelling concept of 20+ years ago: So as not to
stifle student creativity and lower self-esteem, mispellings weren't
corrected or marked "wrong" (Heaven forbid the damage that would do).
In a few years when the student was more confident, they would
"correct" all those mispelled words. Yeah. Right. That worked well. Then
there was Creative Math. Don't get me started. ;-)

No creative math here. I actually knew the answer. The teacher thought I
shouldn't.

Stupidity is everywhere. Impossible to fix. Particularly when the
"solutions" are politically motivated.

Stef



--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself." -- Richard Burton

[snip]


No OS "just works", dumb ass.


I recently needed to use a WiFi adapter (Netgear N150) to test a MiFi
device. Windows required a complex driver installation process. Linux
recognized it automatically.

SOME things "just work".

That includes my Epson inkjet printer.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself." -- Richard Burton

On 2015-06-13, GreyCloud wrote:
Funny that there are a lot of MS Copyright notices and SGI Copyright notices
in X11R6. The widgets were made by MS back in the late 80s. SGI stuff is
what you'd call Mesa and not GL. You were talking about rip-offs?

I'm reminded of a comment made by Woody Guthrie to Pete Seeger when
told that another songwriter had "ripped off" some of Guthrie's work:

"He just stole from me, but I steal from everybody!"

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On 2015-06-13, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I recently needed to use a WiFi adapter (Netgear N150) to test a MiFi
device. Windows required a complex driver installation process. Linux
recognized it automatically.

SOME things "just work".

The thing to do if you're going to use Linux is to purchase hardware that
is known to work with it. This information can be provided either by the
manufacturer or by other users online who have tried a particular item.

I build my own desktop systems and just choose the appropriate hardware
so things will "just work." For laptops I buy models that either have
Linux support from the manufacturer (Lenovo is usually good for this),
or buy laptops containing hardware that is known to be supported. So I
really don't run into many problems. A little up-front research saves
a lot of headaches.

I am getting a bit disgruntled with the way Linux is developing recently
due to the adoption of systemd, so next round of upgrades I'll be looking
harder at the BSDs, maybe time to get back into real Unix.

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On 2015-06-13, GreyCloud wrote:
That's why I went with Win7. After digging into their systems programming
documentation, NT has the same design patterns that are in VMS. David
Cutlers style sort of shows.

When digging into the technical aspects of Windows the VMS design elements
and nomenclature are still very evident. This comes as no surprise since
Microsoft hired Cutler and DEC's top system programmers to design NT
for them, and that core technology is still the underlying basis of
Windows sytstems.

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On 06/13/2015 03:57 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
1.5%, give or take. People tend to try it out and lose their **** within
the first week of its installation because an update broke some of the
functionality or left them with an unusable desktop.

Generalize with stereotypes much? I have two web sites that have nothing
to do with computers or Linux and over 14% of the visitors use Linux and
that's been going on for about a year (before that it was about 5%).
Windows 8 (barf) helped a lot. The Windows 10 cloud trip and eventual
rental will help even more.


Fascinating!

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 19:57:06 -0400, Slimer wrote:

On 2015-06-12 6:33 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:18:27 -0400
Slimer wrote:

On 2015-06-12 4:47 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:36:57 -0700, T wrote:

On 06/11/2015 12:56 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
The problem with Linux distros is that when they come out with a
new version they always introduce new bugs.

As opposed to Windows? Oh my goodness!!! M$ has a long history of
patches breaking all kinds of things. And their OS updates have
a habit of breaking most everything, which is the point, so you
have to buy updates and spend $$$$ on programmers, who have to buy
software from M$ to write those programs.

And as far as Linux goes, the things I have noticed getting broken
as trivial. And the new bugs that get introduced a far fewer
than the bugs that get fixed.

And, And, you can always get Red Hat Enterprise Linux (or clones),
where things are locked down from that sort of thing for 10
years!

I can't be sure, but Linux has a .0000005% of the desktop users at
the most ??

1.5%, give or take. People tend to try it out and lose their ****
within the first week of its installation because an update broke
some of the functionality or left them with an unusable desktop.

Why don't you quit lying and tell the truth for a change? I have never
known an update to break anything. The people that give up in a week,
just won't accept the fact that Linux is a completely different
operating system, and take the time to learn how to use it. Instead
they give up and run back to something that is more comfortable and
familiar to them.

I moved to Linux to get away from the Spyware that Windows is, and
promised myself that I wouldn't go back, and I haven't.

I probably had more trouble learning how to use Linux Mint without
screwing it up so bad it was useless, than anyone, but I stuck with it,
and had people to help me, and I'm still using it 18 months later.

I'm lying about updates breaking the system? Let's see...

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/arch-29/arch-update-%3D-break-4175438110/


https://superuser.com/questions/372962/why-would-an-efi-bios-update-break-the-efi-boot-manager

https://askubuntu.com/questions/223143/broken-package-after-update-linux-headers-error-brokencount-0

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72815/mint-update-with-nvidia-breaks-cinnamon

http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/recent-update-broke-ubuntu-desktop-on.html

https://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=32123

I'm sure all of those are lies as well.

You might want to think twice about calling someone a liar when so much
evidence is available on the web. Take your Linux propaganda and shove
it up your ass, nobody here cares about the amateur code you call an
operating system.


Thanks for keepin' it real, Slimer..if we talked about windows in a
linux group they would be slinging their zit cream at us like there
was no tomorrow