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Old November 30th 15, 05:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dick[_4_]
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made by me
before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of patches since
then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?
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Old November 30th 15, 06:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Dick posted this via
:

Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made by me
before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of patches since
then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?


No, but did you look in your C:\ windows.old folder?

Why would anybody who is using Linux Samba share not have a separate
partition for this [type of] software?

My upgrade from from 10586.11 to 10586.14 completely omitted CCleaner and
reset a couple of my default programs (.PDF, video). It also reset some of
my privacy and monitoring preferences in the "Settings" interface, so I had
to patrol all those and make a few re-adjustments...

Microsoft should change their name to Mamasoft. (;

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Old November 30th 15, 06:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Dick wrote:

Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share.
After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft.


did you look in your C:\ windows.old folder?
Why would anybody who is using Linux Samba share not have a separate
partition for this [type of] software?


I think he means now he's running 10586, he can't see shares on
*another* box that happens to be running SAMBA, not that he's lost stuff
locally?


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Old November 30th 15, 06:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

On 11/30/2015 12:22 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bucky Breeder wrote:

Dick wrote:

Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share.
After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft.


did you look in your C:\ windows.old folder?
Why would anybody who is using Linux Samba share not have a separate
partition for this [type of] software?


I think he means now he's running 10586, he can't see shares on
*another* box that happens to be running SAMBA, not that he's lost stuff
locally?


Andy, you are correct! I am talking about my ability to see shared
folders on non-Microsoft computers connected to my local LAN.
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Old November 30th 15, 06:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

On 11/30/2015 12:37 PM, Dick wrote:
On 11/30/2015 12:22 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bucky Breeder wrote:

Dick wrote:

Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share.
After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft.

did you look in your C:\ windows.old folder?
Why would anybody who is using Linux Samba share not have a separate
partition for this [type of] software?


I think he means now he's running 10586, he can't see shares on
*another* box that happens to be running SAMBA, not that he's lost stuff
locally?


Andy, you are correct! I am talking about my ability to see shared
folders on non-Microsoft computers connected to my local LAN.

As a further clarification, when I say 'I can't see the shares' I mean
that they don't show up in file explorer when I select 'Network'.
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Old November 30th 15, 06:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bucky Breeder[_4_]
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Andy Burns posted this via
:

Bucky Breeder wrote:

Dick wrote:

Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share.
After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft.


did you look in your C:\ windows.old folder?
Why would anybody who is using Linux Samba share not have a separate
partition for this [type of] software?


I think he means now he's running 10586, he can't see shares on
*another* box that happens to be running SAMBA, not that he's lost stuff
locally?


Sooo, you are saying that "he" is having a networking problem since the
update and not particularly a SAMBA issue?

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Old November 30th 15, 06:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Dick wrote:
Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made by me
before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of patches since
then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?


Home group or workgroup=WORKGROUP setup ?

Maybe you changed something during the initial
usage of 10586 ?

Paul
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Old November 30th 15, 07:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bucky Breeder[_4_]
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Paul wrote:
Dick wrote:
Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see ANY
shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made by me
before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of patches since
then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?


Home group or workgroup=WORKGROUP setup ?

Maybe you changed something during the initial
usage of 10586 ?

Paul


Nawww... he likely has to reset his netconfig.

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Old November 30th 15, 07:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dick[_4_]
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

On 11/30/2015 12:49 PM, Paul wrote:
Dick wrote:
Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see
ANY shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made
by me before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of
patches since then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?


Home group or workgroup=WORKGROUP setup ?

Maybe you changed something during the initial
usage of 10586 ?

Paul

Paul, thanks for responding. As I indicated in the original post, I
changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Also, all my systems including the Samba
machine have identical workgroup names.
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Old November 30th 15, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

On 11/30/2015 1:47 PM, Dick wrote:
On 11/30/2015 12:49 PM, Paul wrote:
Dick wrote:
Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see
ANY shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made
by me before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of
patches since then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?


Home group or workgroup=WORKGROUP setup ?

Maybe you changed something during the initial
usage of 10586 ?

Paul

Paul, thanks for responding. As I indicated in the original post, I
changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Also, all my systems including the Samba
machine have identical workgroup names.

I do not use Homegroups.
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Old November 30th 15, 08:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:47:56 -0500, Dick wrote:

Paul, thanks for responding. As I indicated in the original post, I
changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Also, all my systems including the Samba
machine have identical workgroup names.


Have you checked the workgroup name since the upgrade. There was a
recent post where the workgroup name was found to be changed to
WORKGROUP after an upgrade.

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Old November 30th 15, 09:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Dick wrote:
On 11/30/2015 1:47 PM, Dick wrote:
On 11/30/2015 12:49 PM, Paul wrote:
Dick wrote:
Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see
ANY shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made
by me before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of
patches since then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?

Home group or workgroup=WORKGROUP setup ?

Maybe you changed something during the initial
usage of 10586 ?

Paul

Paul, thanks for responding. As I indicated in the original post, I
changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Also, all my systems including the Samba
machine have identical workgroup names.

I do not use Homegroups.


There is SMB version. Which is not supposed to be
a problem, except for the most decrepit hardware.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...nServerPreview

http://blogs.technet.com/b/josebda/a...are-using.aspx

There is user account and password as a gating item.

Out of the box, some OSes don't even have File Sharing
enabled. You have to indicate Home network, then go
looking for the File Sharing setting. Attempting to
create your first share on the machine, may expose
the fact it isn't enabled. (While you would not
expect these to be reset by an OS Upgrade 10586,
stranger things have happened.)

The LAN has a "Master Browser". Without consulting it,
some OSes support direct IP, as in smb://127.0.0.1 format,
so you can skip the browser or name determination step
and go right to the desired machine. I used to do that
for a time. Some older Linux machines, worked with
an approach like that, to my WinXP machine.

I've received some pretty strange responses on a protocol
failure. Including refusing to wait for me to enter a password :-)
And then claiming the password is wrong. That was in a mixed
environment (an Apple Macintosh was involved).

*******

In Win10, go to the Cortana search box, type "Powershell".
Right click the program result and select "Run as administrator".

Get-SmbConnection

My Win10 is 10586 (Insider).

I have a copy of WinXP with a share.

The Get-SmbConnection claims it is running protoool version 1.5.

I installed samba and system-config-samba on a fresh install
of Ubuntu 1510. Had to do touch /etc/libuser.conf in order
to make a file to keep system-config-samba happy. With
that done, I could use system-config-samba to set up
a share.

(Win10 machine)

Machine Version
WinXP 1.5
Ubuntu1510 3.0

I can also see Master Browser elections flying around
the net as well, in Wireshark. So they're deciding
who is the boss in the fake (home LAN) domain.

There is no sign of trouble here.

I don't know what else to run, to shine light
on the issue.

In terms of troubleshooters, a troubleshooter
would have to be written assuming it could
get some sort of informative response from
the other end. Single ended troubleshooting
(a bunch of regsvc32 or a bunch of service
restarts), probably isn't going to magically
make it work.

OK, so if I go to Win10 Control Panels, and
"troubleshooters", then type "sharing" in the
search box in the upper right hand corner,
there are three troubleshooters listed.
Two of the three will be useful to you.
The third is for Homegroups.

Troubleshooters sharing

Incoming Connections
Shared Folders

HTH,
Paul
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Old November 30th 15, 10:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

In message , Dick
writes
On 11/30/2015 1:47 PM, Dick wrote:
On 11/30/2015 12:49 PM, Paul wrote:
Dick wrote:
Right before I upgraded from build 10240 to build 10586, I copied a
number of files to a linux (samba) share. So I KNOW I could see them
(the shares).

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see
ANY shares that were not Microsoft. Absolutely no other changes made
by me before or after the upgrade. I also received a couple of
patches since then, but they apparently didn't address my issue.

Has anyone else experienced this happening with their shares?

Home group or workgroup=WORKGROUP setup ?

Maybe you changed something during the initial
usage of 10586 ?

Paul

Paul, thanks for responding. As I indicated in the original post, I
changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Also, all my systems including the Samba
machine have identical workgroup names.

I do not use Homegroups.


I think this may be the same problem that I raised in this ng under the
title "Build 10586 and Networking".

I, too have a couple of Linux machines on the workgroup using samba, and
neither of my Build 10586 machines can see them or several of the older
Windows machines. It worked on earlier builds.

I don't use Homegroups. Scotties Lanscan can see nothing from the Build
10586 machine.
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Old November 30th 15, 10:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Default Can't see Samba shares after build 10586

Paul wrote:

After upgrading to build 10586 (~1 hr later), I could no longer see
ANY shares that were not Microsoft.


One other thing. There was one report of
a small issue with the workgroup name
getting changed. Make sure the workgroup
name being used, is the same everywhere.

workgroup=WORKGROUP

Paul
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Old November 30th 15, 10:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Rodney Pont wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:47:56 -0500, Dick wrote:

Paul, thanks for responding. As I indicated in the original post, I
changed ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Also, all my systems including the Samba
machine have identical workgroup names.


Have you checked the workgroup name since the upgrade. There was a
recent post where the workgroup name was found to be changed to
WORKGROUP after an upgrade.


Why would we ever need any other value :-)

workgroup=WORKGROUP

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