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[no problem w/ internet connection, but w/ workgroup access:]
Really would appreciate some of your expert insight on this one! Have been wrestling w/ small wireless network (1 desktop/host + 2 laptops, all running xp pro) for 2 months now...Just about got everything running smooth, but w/ one weird hangup: If the host is up & running, and I log onto a laptop/wireless client, go to My Network Places, then click View Workgroup Computers, either the window hangs & stops responding, or I get an error msg telling me access to the workgroup's denied 'cause I don't have permission, etc. BUT if--after I bring up My Network Places, I manually-enter into the address bar \\hostcomputername then Enter, it brings up all the shares perfectly. Anyone out there know why clicking on View Workgroup Computers is causing havoc? Thanks for your time & attention to detail [:-) terry. |
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On 11 Oct 2004 21:53:23 -0700, *email_address_deleted* (Terry B.) wrote:
[no problem w/ internet connection, but w/ workgroup access:] Really would appreciate some of your expert insight on this one! Have been wrestling w/ small wireless network (1 desktop/host + 2 laptops, all running xp pro) for 2 months now...Just about got everything running smooth, but w/ one weird hangup: If the host is up & running, and I log onto a laptop/wireless client, go to My Network Places, then click View Workgroup Computers, either the window hangs & stops responding, or I get an error msg telling me access to the workgroup's denied 'cause I don't have permission, etc. BUT if--after I bring up My Network Places, I manually-enter into the address bar \\hostcomputername then Enter, it brings up all the shares perfectly. Anyone out there know why clicking on View Workgroup Computers is causing havoc? Thanks for your time & attention to detail [:-) terry. Terry, Are your XP computers running Simple, or Advanced (Simple disabled) File Sharing? Advanced File Sharing is a Windows 2000 compatibility feature, and uses the Guest account, as a backup to a matching non-Guest account with identical, non-blank password, for authentication. On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel - Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro, you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer. On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to "Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it an identical, non-blank password on all computers. On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Now, if Guest authentication is a possibility, check the Registry policy restrictanonymous. In addition to any possibilities you might find in other articles, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K is NT V5.0. Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might help: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url=/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if appropriate. From the Annoyances article: You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad (right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the registry. And Terry, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the internet - read this article. http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Chuck wrote in message . ..
Terry, Are your XP computers running Simple, or Advanced (Simple disabled) File Sharing? Advanced File Sharing is a Windows 2000 compatibility feature, and uses the Guest account, as a backup to a matching non-Guest account with identical, non-blank password, for authentication. On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel - Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro, you need to have SFS consistently set on each computer. On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to "Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it an identical, non-blank password on all computers. On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. Now, if Guest authentication is a possibility, check the Registry policy restrictanonymous. In addition to any possibilities you might find in other articles, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K is NT V5.0. Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might help: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url=/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if appropriate. From the Annoyances article: You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad (right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the registry. And Terry, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the internet - read this article. http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. To Chuck, Thanks much for your time; here's my response: #1: My WLAN consists of 3 machines, all running xp pro, and yes, they all routinely run with Simple File Sharing disabled. #2: I went into Administrative Tools and drilled-down to the "Network access sharing & security model" and its setting; on all network machines it was already set to Classic--local users authenticate as themselves. And yes, I've got a "common non-Guest account on all computers" (mine), which is an administrators group account and shares an identical password on all machines. #3: I went into regedit & checked HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\LSA. On all network machines the settings are identical ("restrictanonymous" has a DWORD value of 0) |
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(Sorry about that, hit "post" by mistake.)
Chuck wrote in message Terry, Are your XP computers running Simple, or Advanced (Simple disabled) File Sharing? Yes they are; there are 3 machines on WLAN, all run winxp pro, and all run with SFS disabled. On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". I checked this setting and yes, all machines were already set to "Classic--local~themselves" Whichever account is used, give it an identical, non-blank password on all computers. Yes, there is already a common user acct w/ identical password enable on all machines (my acct, in administrators group) Now, if Guest authentication is a possibility, check the Registry policy restrictanonymous. In addition to any possibilities you might find in other articles, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. I checked; all machines had identical settings at this reg key; "restrictanonymous" has a DWORD value of 0. And Terry, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Sorry about that, Chuck. But evidently I'm not smart enough to post a msg to Usenet using an anonymous address like yours. I tried, but Google told me I had to use an authentic email address. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. So Chuck--You have any other ideas on why the computer hangs bigtime when asked to "View Workgroup Computers", but oftentimes will show the shared folders when I manually enter the other workgroup computer's name in address bar? Thanks again for your time! Terry B. |
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On 12 Oct 2004 18:41:33 -0700, *email_address_deleted* (Terry B.) wrote:
(Sorry about that, hit "post" by mistake.) Chuck wrote in message Terry, Are your XP computers running Simple, or Advanced (Simple disabled) File Sharing? Yes they are; there are 3 machines on WLAN, all run winxp pro, and all run with SFS disabled. On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". I checked this setting and yes, all machines were already set to "Classic--local~themselves" Whichever account is used, give it an identical, non-blank password on all computers. Yes, there is already a common user acct w/ identical password enable on all machines (my acct, in administrators group) Now, if Guest authentication is a possibility, check the Registry policy restrictanonymous. In addition to any possibilities you might find in other articles, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. I checked; all machines had identical settings at this reg key; "restrictanonymous" has a DWORD value of 0. And Terry, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Sorry about that, Chuck. But evidently I'm not smart enough to post a msg to Usenet using an anonymous address like yours. I tried, but Google told me I had to use an authentic email address. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. So Chuck--You have any other ideas on why the computer hangs bigtime when asked to "View Workgroup Computers", but oftentimes will show the shared folders when I manually enter the other workgroup computer's name in address bar? Thanks again for your time! Terry B. Terry, Two other things to check out. The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 You can download Browstat from either: http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command window. For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx Please provide browstat information for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status c:\browstat.txt" into the command window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Identify each computer by name and operating system. Look at Advanced Settings for Local Area Connection (Network Connections - Advanced - Advanced Settings). On the Adapters and Bindings tab, list the contents of the Bindings window. On the Provider Order tab, list the contents of the Network providers list window. Google. %-} You have my sympathy. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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do you have norton internet security installed on your computer? cause if you
do, norton is preventing your computer to communicate with other computer. configure the personal firewall of norton then go to network tab, it will tell you everything. you have to put your ip ad in the trusted zone. then you can go from there. very easy ... that is if you have anorton security installed. "Terry B." wrote: [no problem w/ internet connection, but w/ workgroup access:] Really would appreciate some of your expert insight on this one! Have been wrestling w/ small wireless network (1 desktop/host + 2 laptops, all running xp pro) for 2 months now...Just about got everything running smooth, but w/ one weird hangup: If the host is up & running, and I log onto a laptop/wireless client, go to My Network Places, then click View Workgroup Computers, either the window hangs & stops responding, or I get an error msg telling me access to the workgroup's denied 'cause I don't have permission, etc. BUT if--after I bring up My Network Places, I manually-enter into the address bar \\hostcomputername then Enter, it brings up all the shares perfectly. Anyone out there know why clicking on View Workgroup Computers is causing havoc? Thanks for your time & attention to detail [:-) terry. |
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Chuck wrote in message . ..
On 12 Oct 2004 18:41:33 -0700, *email_address_deleted* (Terry B.) wrote: (Sorry about that, hit "post" by mistake.) Chuck wrote in message Terry, Are your XP computers running Simple, or Advanced (Simple disabled) File Sharing? Yes they are; there are 3 machines on WLAN, all run winxp pro, and all run with SFS disabled. On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves". I checked this setting and yes, all machines were already set to "Classic--local~themselves" Whichever account is used, give it an identical, non-blank password on all computers. Yes, there is already a common user acct w/ identical password enable on all machines (my acct, in administrators group) Now, if Guest authentication is a possibility, check the Registry policy restrictanonymous. In addition to any possibilities you might find in other articles, look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. I checked; all machines had identical settings at this reg key; "restrictanonymous" has a DWORD value of 0. And Terry, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address mining viruses. Posting your email address openly will get you more unwanted email, than wanted email. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a bit safer when posting to open forums. Sorry about that, Chuck. But evidently I'm not smart enough to post a msg to Usenet using an anonymous address like yours. I tried, but Google told me I had to use an authentic email address. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. So Chuck--You have any other ideas on why the computer hangs bigtime when asked to "View Workgroup Computers", but oftentimes will show the shared folders when I manually enter the other workgroup computer's name in address bar? Thanks again for your time! Terry B. Terry, Two other things to check out. The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 You can download Browstat from either: http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command window. For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx Please provide browstat information for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status c:\browstat.txt" into the command window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Identify each computer by name and operating system. Look at Advanced Settings for Local Area Connection (Network Connections - Advanced - Advanced Settings). On the Adapters and Bindings tab, list the contents of the Bindings window. On the Provider Order tab, list the contents of the Network providers list window. Google. %-} You have my sympathy. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. HELLO, CHUCK ! I downloaded browstat.exe from the link you provided, unzipped it and placed it on root drive. Then I went to a command window and entered "browstat status c:browstat.txt". It gave me the following error: C:\Documents and Settings\riprapbrowstat status c:\browstat.txt 'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. C:\Documents and Settings\riprapbrowstat /? 'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Any other ideas? Terry B. |
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On 13 Oct 2004 17:13:44 -0700, *email_address_deleted* (Terry B.) wrote:
SNIP HELLO, CHUCK ! I downloaded browstat.exe from the link you provided, unzipped it and placed it on root drive. Then I went to a command window and entered "browstat status c:browstat.txt". It gave me the following error: C:\Documents and Settings\riprapbrowstat status c:\browstat.txt 'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. C:\Documents and Settings\riprapbrowstat /? 'browstat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Any other ideas? Terry B. Terry, Is C:\ in your Path? Generally not. So do this: cd\ browstat status browstat.txt Don't forget to list the Advanced Settings. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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"Cheer" wrote in message ...
do you have norton internet security installed on your computer? cause if you do, norton is preventing your computer to communicate with other computer. configure the personal firewall of norton then go to network tab, it will tell you everything. you have to put your ip ad in the trusted zone. then you can go from there. very easy ... that is if you have anorton security installed. TO CHEER: No, there's no Norton products installed. There is Sygate Personal Firewall, but it's configured to accept a network neighborhood, plus I've tried a bunch of times to View Workgroup Computers (from the laptop) w/ the Sygate turned off; no joy. TO CHUCK: I got browstat running. Here's the readout frm the cmd: "browstat status workgroupname": Status for domain disgusted on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. (Does that help?) Also, Chuck, I apologize for not noticing this before, but the whole problem w/ not being able to View Workgroup Computers and the application hang seems to be limited to just one of 2 laptops on WLAN--a Dell Inspiron. (There's an Averatec which is sharing just fine.) Also, I've tried 2 different pc cards on the dell; doesn't seem to make any difference. And I've also uninstalled-&-reinstalled the cd-based software that came w/ the cards. No joy. (Does any of this help w/ diagnostics?) Thanks much for your time [:-)) Terry B. "Terry B." wrote: [no problem w/ internet connection, but w/ workgroup access:] Really would appreciate some of your expert insight on this one! Have been wrestling w/ small wireless network (1 desktop/host + 2 laptops, all running xp pro) for 2 months now...Just about got everything running smooth, but w/ one weird hangup: If the host is up & running, and I log onto a laptop/wireless client, go to My Network Places, then click View Workgroup Computers, either the window hangs & stops responding, or I get an error msg telling me access to the workgroup's denied 'cause I don't have permission, etc. BUT if--after I bring up My Network Places, I manually-enter into the address bar \\hostcomputername then Enter, it brings up all the shares perfectly. Anyone out there know why clicking on View Workgroup Computers is causing havoc? Thanks for your time & attention to detail [:-) terry. |
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On 13 Oct 2004 20:06:11 -0500, Chuck wrote:
browstat status browstat.txt Chuck, all, by the way, a nice command is: browstat vw 1 If 1 doesn't do, try 2 or enter browstat dn to find the right number. vw is an abbreviation of view, dn is an abbreviation of dumpnet. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please. |
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Chuck wrote in message . ..
On 13 Oct 2004 21:29:43 -0700, (Terry B.) wrote: "Cheer" wrote in message ... do you have norton internet security installed on your computer? cause if you do, norton is preventing your computer to communicate with other computer. configure the personal firewall of norton then go to network tab, it will tell you everything. you have to put your ip ad in the trusted zone. then you can go from there. very easy ... that is if you have anorton security installed. TO CHEER: No, there's no Norton products installed. There is Sygate Personal Firewall, but it's configured to accept a network neighborhood, plus I've tried a bunch of times to View Workgroup Computers (from the laptop) w/ the Sygate turned off; no joy. TO CHUCK: I got browstat running. Here's the readout frm the cmd: "browstat status workgroupname": Status for domain disgusted on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. (Does that help?) Also, Chuck, I apologize for not noticing this before, but the whole problem w/ not being able to View Workgroup Computers and the application hang seems to be limited to just one of 2 laptops on WLAN--a Dell Inspiron. (There's an Averatec which is sharing just fine.) Also, I've tried 2 different pc cards on the dell; doesn't seem to make any difference. And I've also uninstalled-&-reinstalled the cd-based software that came w/ the cards. No joy. (Does any of this help w/ diagnostics?) Thanks much for your time [:-)) Terry B. Terry, That's a good start. But just that. If browsing is NOT active on the domain, you certainly shouldn't expect to see stuff in Network Neighborhood. And, if you browse some of my previous posts where a personal firewall is involved, you'll notice that, not infrequently, problems ARE NOT resolved by turning the damn things off. You have to either properly configure them, or un install each completely. With a problem like yours, we can poke around all month. Or we can get organised, carefully define the scope of the problem, and maybe fix it this week. First, we need to know what computers you have on the LAN, with computer name, and with OS name, version, and SP level. And which computers have, or had, personal firewalls of any brand. Then run diagnoses on each computer. Starting here. Please provide ipconfig information for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Identify operating system (by name and version) with each ipconfig listing. And identify any firewalls, both presently active, and previously active. Provide adhoc browser view for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "net view c:\netview.txt" into the command window - Open c:\netview.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Provide browstat information for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status c:\browstat.txt" into the command window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post. Identify each computer by name and operating system. From each computer, test connectivity and name resolution: 1) Ping itself by name. 2) Ping itself by ip address. 3) Ping the other two by name. 4) Ping the other by two ip address. 5) Ping 127.0.0.1. 6) Ping the router. Report success / exact error displayed in each test (24 tests total). This is a start. Once we have a start, we will know what to look at next. Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. TO CHUCK::Here's the data you asked for: (3) Computers on the LAN 1.) desktop/host. type = hp 513c name = "powertool" . OS name = WinXP Pro v.2002 SP level = SP2 Firewalls: At present has Sygate 'personal' installed; Windows Firewall/Internet Connection service DISABLED 2.) laptop #1: type = dell inspiron 1150 name = "multitool1" OS name = WinXP Pro v.2002 SP level = SP2 Firewalls: Had Sygate, but uninstalled; Windows Firewall/Internet Connection service DISABLED 3.) laptop #2: type = averatec 3220H1 name = "veridisk" OS name = WinXP Pro v.2002 SP level = SP2 Firewalls: None. Windows DISABLED. 1a.) "powertool" ipconfig data: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : powertool Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 6: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-35-E0-8D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.8 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.68 204.127.202.4 2a.) "multitool1" ipconfig data: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : multitool1 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-0D-7D-63 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 14: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.2.0 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-66-A2-45-23 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.15 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.168 204.127.202.4 3a.) "veridisk" ipconfig data": Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : veridisk Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Broadcom builtin: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-6B-7A-31 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.68 204.127.202.4 1b.) "powertool" browser view: Server Name Remark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \\MULTITOOL1 \\POWERTOOL \\VERIDISK The command completed successfully. 2b.) "multitool1" browser view: Server Name Remark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \\MULTITOOL1 \\POWERTOOL \\VERIDISK The command completed successfully. 3b.) "veridisk" browser view: Server Name Remark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \\MULTITOOL1 \\POWERTOOL \\VERIDISK The command completed successfully. 1c.) "powertool" browstat status: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{49EB0BD6-0334-48D9-A6D8-3818B8BD6858} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: VERIDISK Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master VERIDISK \\VERIDISK There are 3 servers in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{49EB0BD6-0334-48D9-A6D8-3818B8BD6858} There are 1 domains in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{49EB0BD6-0334-48D9-A6D8-3818B8BD6858} 2c.) "multitool" browstat status: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: VERIDISK Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master VERIDISK \\VERIDISK There are 3 servers in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} There are 1 domains in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} 3c.) "veridisk" browstat status: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: VERIDISK Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master VERIDISK \\VERIDISK There are 3 servers in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} There are 1 domains in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} As far as the ping tests: All 3 units can pass all 6 of the tests mentioned. Does all this information paint a helpful picture, Chuck? PLEASE NOTE that "multitool1" is the laptop that's been hanging up when asked to "View Workgroup Computers"; "veridisk" works w/out a hitch.... Is it a telltale sign that, although "powertool" is the host computer, for some reason "browstat status" on all 3 machines list "veridisk" as the master browser????? I'm looking forward to your next post, Chuck [:-)) Terry B. |
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On 14 Oct 2004 16:59:17 -0700, *email_address_deleted* (Terry B.) wrote:
SNIP (3) Computers on the LAN 1.) desktop/host. type = hp 513c name = "powertool" . OS name = WinXP Pro v.2002 SP level = SP2 Firewalls: At present has Sygate 'personal' installed; Windows Firewall/Internet Connection service DISABLED 2.) laptop #1: type = dell inspiron 1150 name = "multitool1" OS name = WinXP Pro v.2002 SP level = SP2 Firewalls: Had Sygate, but uninstalled; Windows Firewall/Internet Connection service DISABLED 3.) laptop #2: type = averatec 3220H1 name = "veridisk" OS name = WinXP Pro v.2002 SP level = SP2 Firewalls: None. Windows DISABLED. 1a.) "powertool" ipconfig data: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : powertool Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 6: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-05-35-E0-8D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.8 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.68 204.127.202.4 2a.) "multitool1" ipconfig data: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : multitool1 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-1F-0D-7D-63 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 14: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Wireless-G Notebook Adapter v.2.0 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-66-A2-45-23 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.15 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.168 204.127.202.4 3a.) "veridisk" ipconfig data": Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : veridisk Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Broadcom builtin: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-4B-6B-7A-31 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.148.227.68 204.127.202.4 1b.) "powertool" browser view: Server Name Remark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \\MULTITOOL1 \\POWERTOOL \\VERIDISK The command completed successfully. 2b.) "multitool1" browser view: Server Name Remark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \\MULTITOOL1 \\POWERTOOL \\VERIDISK The command completed successfully. 3b.) "veridisk" browser view: Server Name Remark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \\MULTITOOL1 \\POWERTOOL \\VERIDISK The command completed successfully. 1c.) "powertool" browstat status: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{49EB0BD6-0334-48D9-A6D8-3818B8BD6858} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: VERIDISK Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master VERIDISK \\VERIDISK There are 3 servers in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{49EB0BD6-0334-48D9-A6D8-3818B8BD6858} There are 1 domains in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{49EB0BD6-0334-48D9-A6D8-3818B8BD6858} 2c.) "multitool" browstat status: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: VERIDISK Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master VERIDISK \\VERIDISK There are 3 servers in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} There are 1 domains in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F5B0BBB-99BB-4A1E-A25D-22718665A05C} 3c.) "veridisk" browstat status: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: VERIDISK Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master VERIDISK \\VERIDISK There are 3 servers in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} There are 1 domains in domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} As far as the ping tests: All 3 units can pass all 6 of the tests mentioned. Does all this information paint a helpful picture, Chuck? PLEASE NOTE that "multitool1" is the laptop that's been hanging up when asked to "View Workgroup Computers"; "veridisk" works w/out a hitch.... Is it a telltale sign that, although "powertool" is the host computer, for some reason "browstat status" on all 3 machines list "veridisk" as the master browser????? I'm looking forward to your next post, Chuck [:-)) Terry B. Terry, Sorry for not responding sooner. I've been experiencing power problems here recently - that interferes with my computer use. :-( Your connectivity, and visibility, of each computer to the other ("net view") appears good. Browstat indicates a symmetrical browsing (same master browser on each computer, so no communication problem indicated). But there's no backup browser. Make sure the browser service is running on multitool1 and powertool. Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. When you have the browser service running on each computer, all of your computers are equally eligible to be the master browser. The first election criteria for being the MB, on your LAN, is being the computer that's been online the longest. When all computers are brought online simultaneously, the previous MB is generally re elected. To influence the election, you need to power down each computer simultaneously. The first computer subsequently powered up should be elected. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx Do you have shares setup on each? Let's see exactly what you can see. From each computer, test shares visibility: Start - Run - "cmd" then type into the command window: 1) net view multitool1 2) net view powertool 3) net view veridisk Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (9 tests total). From each computer, test shares visibility from browser: Start - Run then: 1) \\multitool1 2) \\powertool 3) \\veridisk Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (9 tests total). Let's see if we can motivate you to rename your Workgroup. ;-} Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Hey, Chuck !
Thanks for the line. THIS is where I'm at: By going to My Network Places and manually-entering \\computername, I can view any of the shared folders on any workgroup computer. The basic hassle is that when I click on View Workgroup Computers, the system hangs forever....Here is the data you requested: I. Shares Visibility, tested from powertool: Shared resources at powertool Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- audio Disk drivers Disk dwnld_apps Disk encrypted Disk Favorites Disk house_finances Disk hppsc1200 Print hp psc 1200 series job_search Disk mp3_music Disk Z: msoft updates Disk Outlook Disk pcmag Disk pcmag_apps Disk product_keys Disk restore notepad Disk SharedDocs Disk Trimac Disk tweaks_coding Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ****************** Shared resources at multitool1 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Favorites Disk hppsc120 Print \\powertool\hp psc 1200 series SharedDocs Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ******************* Shared resources at veridisk Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SharedDocs Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ******************* II. Shares visibility, tested from multitool1: Shared resources at multitool1 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Favorites Disk hppsc120 Print \\powertool\hp psc 1200 series SharedDocs Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ******************** Shared resources at powertool Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- audio Disk drivers Disk dwnld_apps Disk encrypted Disk Favorites Disk house_finances Disk hppsc1200 Print hp psc 1200 series job_search Disk (UNC) mp3_music Disk msoft updates Disk (UNC) Outlook Disk pcmag Disk pcmag_apps Disk product_keys Disk restore notepad Disk SharedDocs Disk Trimac Disk tweaks_coding Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ********************** Shared resources at veridisk Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SharedDocs Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. *********************** III. Shares visibility, tested from veridisk: Shared resources at veridisk Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SharedDocs Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ********************* Shared resources at powertool Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- audio Disk drivers Disk dwnld_apps Disk encrypted Disk Favorites Disk house_finances Disk hppsc1200 Print hp psc 1200 series job_search Disk mp3_music Disk msoft updates Disk Outlook Disk pcmag Disk pcmag_apps Disk product_keys Disk restore notepad Disk SharedDocs Disk Trimac Disk tweaks_coding Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ******************** Shared resources at multitool1 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Favorites Disk hppsc120 Print \\powertool\hp psc 1200 series SharedDocs Disk wireless Disk The command completed successfully. ********************** PLUS, when I tested "shares visibility from browser" from each machine, all nine tests were successful, no errors. BUT, I don't have a master browser anymore, and when I run "browstat status" from each machine's cmd prompt, it comes up like: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. There doesn't seem to be a master browser. Note that there are no firewalls running, and in local services on all units, the Computer Browser service is turned to Automatic. I'd like the desktop, powertool, to be elected master browser on a consistent basis. Can you help out with this, Chuck? As always, thanks for your time & attention to detail. Terry B. |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:16:36 GMT, "Terry B." wrote:
Hey, Chuck ! Thanks for the line. THIS is where I'm at: By going to My Network Places and manually-entering \\computername, I can view any of the shared folders on any workgroup computer. The basic hassle is that when I click on View Workgroup Computers, the system hangs forever....Here is the data you requested: SNIP Net View of each individual computer's shares from each other PLUS, when I tested "shares visibility from browser" from each machine, all nine tests were successful, no errors. BUT, I don't have a master browser anymore, and when I run "browstat status" from each machine's cmd prompt, it comes up like: Status for domain DISGUSTED on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{35A2B29B-F6FA-437D-88FE-B1CF4522AC30} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. There doesn't seem to be a master browser. Note that there are no firewalls running, and in local services on all units, the Computer Browser service is turned to Automatic. I'd like the desktop, powertool, to be elected master browser on a consistent basis. Can you help out with this, Chuck? As always, thanks for your time & attention to detail. Terry B. Terry, When you're going to View Workgroup Computers, you're trying to access the browser. No browser = no list, and the computer will hang until it realises that no browser is available. In your previous post (10/14 16:59) you included 3 symmetrical browstat listings that indicated browsing active, with veridisk the MB. Now you are seeing "Browsing is NOT active on domain". What have you changed? PLEASE post the complete Browstat output from each computer. Don't excerpt. Is the Browser service, AND the TCP/IP Helper service, running on each computer? Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Not just Startup Type = Automatic. If you want powertool to be the master browser, you need to power down all computers simultaneously. If you then start powertool first, and allow enough time, it should elect itself as the MB. IF the browser service is running. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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