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Corporate XP and SP2
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product Key. And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked copy of XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead. You might get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended! Just thought I'd say. That's all! |
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Corporate XP and SP2
There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen licenses. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "Lindsay" wrote in message ... I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product Key. And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked copy of XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead. You might get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended! Just thought I'd say. That's all! |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Ok, the correct name is "volume license" not "corporate", but you know
what he's talking about, and so does everyone else -- the version of XP licensed to large corporate customers that doesn't do product activation. Last I heard from MS was that SP2 or Windows Update (it wasn't clear which) had a list of known "leaked" keys for that edition and would not install (and might freeze the system against any future Windows updates) if any of those keys was used, but would work if the key wasn't on the "blacklist". Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote: There is no such thing as "Corporate edition" Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen licenses. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Lindsay wrote:
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? |
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Corporate XP and SP2
The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. "Plato" |@|.| wrote in message ... Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Do your searches for Volume License Product Keys SP2.
-- All the Best, Kelly Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP 2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award Troubleshooting Windows XP http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com "Lindsay" wrote in message ... The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. "Plato" |@|.| wrote in message ... Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Without regard to the specific question asked, there most definitely is
such an animal. The correct name is "volume license", not "corporate". Plato wrote: Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? |
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Corporate XP and SP2
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote: "Plato" |@|.| wrote in message ... Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a cheap prospect. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on
this NG) don't seem to know about it? "NobodyMan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay" wrote: "Plato" |@|.| wrote in message ... Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a cheap prospect. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Next time you speak with them ask... Probably simply related to their
experience base and their customers needs. Lindsay wrote: Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it? "NobodyMan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay" wrote: "Plato" |@|.| wrote in message .. . Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a cheap prospect. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Greetings --
I'd have to wonder where they purchased their "certifications." Bruce Chambers -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Lindsay" wrote in message ... Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it? |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Lindsay wrote:
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product Key. And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked copy of XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead. You might get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended! Just thought I'd say. That's all! Plato wrote: No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? Lindsay wrote: The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. NobodyMan wrote: Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a cheap prospect. Lindsay wrote: Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it? Lindsay, Here is the situation. You posted originally (as can be seen in the thread above) that if people had this "corporate" version (the correct term is "Volume License Agreement") - then SP2 would work, but not with their "dodgy Product Key". You inferred, right there, that all "Volume Licensed" copies of Windows XP were pirated. Those are the only "dodgy product keys" out there, the ones that have been pirated and deemed unusable by Microsoft. Although I see that you were trying to be helpful, those that actually have a pirated copy (and KNOW they have a pirated copy - so they would understand what you are saying) - likely already have their work-around or have gone out and purchased XP finally (I'm doubting the latter.) Plato may have jumped to a conclusion by their response - but it was a small hop actually - as I stated, you mentioned "dodgy keys" and "corporate" along with the proper terminology. Maybe you just heard it put that way - but in any case - you threw it out there. Then you come back with the "Volume License" does exist. Yes - you are correct. Confirmed. Heck - here's a link to a few web pages: Microsoft Volume Licensing FAQ http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/faq.mspx Volume License and Online Services Product Keys http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/r...l/default.mspx Then you add some madness about "Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers" - which is not entirely true, as you can get a volume license agreement with as few as five (5) computers. Check it out he Microsoft Open License Value http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...openvalue.mspx And then look at the different levels of Volume Licensing Agreements compared he Microsoft Volume Licensing Programs Comparison http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...eacompare.mspx Additional madness then follows with your statement "It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy." Uhm, yeah - okay. See, you asked, here it is. You can do a Google search or a search with Microsoft's own search engine on their web site and find everything I just sent you. It's out there, it's not denied at all. There's not even denial about the fact that there are "dodgy product keys" out there. These very articles prove the lack of denial: You receive a "The product key used to install Windows is invalid" error message http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904 How to change the Volume Licensing product key on a Windows XP SP1-based computer http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874 Now, I come to your last inquiry, specifically, "Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it?" The short answer, they are mis-informed or not as "MS qualified" as you might think. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "MS qualified", to be honest - but these guys obviously have no CLUE as to what they are talking about OR they may be just telling you this so they don't tempt another user into pirating software (or they pirate themselves and just don't want to admit it.) I hope this clears up the volume licensing (not "corporate", that is a term originally used only by those pirating the "warez" copy of Windows XP) confusion you may have. If not - ask more questions. -- - Shenan - -- The information is provided "as is", with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, and without warranties of any kind, express or implied. In other words, read up before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
There is no such thing as "Corporate edition" Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen licenses. There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license or you don't. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
I was not inferring all Volume Licensed users were using pirated editions! I
said that because if they are asking on this NG, it must be a pirated copy. If it were not pirated, they must be working for a large enough company to already know the answer. "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... Lindsay wrote: I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product Key. And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked copy of XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead. You might get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended! Just thought I'd say. That's all! Plato wrote: No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites? Lindsay wrote: The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy. NobodyMan wrote: Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a cheap prospect. Lindsay wrote: Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it? Lindsay, Here is the situation. You posted originally (as can be seen in the thread above) that if people had this "corporate" version (the correct term is "Volume License Agreement") - then SP2 would work, but not with their "dodgy Product Key". You inferred, right there, that all "Volume Licensed" copies of Windows XP were pirated. Those are the only "dodgy product keys" out there, the ones that have been pirated and deemed unusable by Microsoft. Although I see that you were trying to be helpful, those that actually have a pirated copy (and KNOW they have a pirated copy - so they would understand what you are saying) - likely already have their work-around or have gone out and purchased XP finally (I'm doubting the latter.) Plato may have jumped to a conclusion by their response - but it was a small hop actually - as I stated, you mentioned "dodgy keys" and "corporate" along with the proper terminology. Maybe you just heard it put that way - but in any case - you threw it out there. Then you come back with the "Volume License" does exist. Yes - you are correct. Confirmed. Heck - here's a link to a few web pages: Microsoft Volume Licensing FAQ http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/faq.mspx Volume License and Online Services Product Keys http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/r...l/default.mspx Then you add some madness about "Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers" - which is not entirely true, as you can get a volume license agreement with as few as five (5) computers. Check it out he Microsoft Open License Value http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...openvalue.mspx And then look at the different levels of Volume Licensing Agreements compared he Microsoft Volume Licensing Programs Comparison http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/p...eacompare.mspx Additional madness then follows with your statement "It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny it. It has nothing to do with piracy." Uhm, yeah - okay. See, you asked, here it is. You can do a Google search or a search with Microsoft's own search engine on their web site and find everything I just sent you. It's out there, it's not denied at all. There's not even denial about the fact that there are "dodgy product keys" out there. These very articles prove the lack of denial: You receive a "The product key used to install Windows is invalid" error message http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904 How to change the Volume Licensing product key on a Windows XP SP1-based computer http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328874 Now, I come to your last inquiry, specifically, "Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on this NG) don't seem to know about it?" The short answer, they are mis-informed or not as "MS qualified" as you might think. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "MS qualified", to be honest - but these guys obviously have no CLUE as to what they are talking about OR they may be just telling you this so they don't tempt another user into pirating software (or they pirate themselves and just don't want to admit it.) I hope this clears up the volume licensing (not "corporate", that is a term originally used only by those pirating the "warez" copy of Windows XP) confusion you may have. If not - ask more questions. -- - Shenan - -- The information is provided "as is", with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy or timeliness, and without warranties of any kind, express or implied. In other words, read up before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions. |
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Corporate XP and SP2
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:41:24 -0500, Herb Fritatta
wrote: Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote: There is no such thing as "Corporate edition" Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen licenses. There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license or you don't. If you don't purchase a license, but are using somebody else's then by definition you have "stolen" it. Stealing is taking something that belongs to somebody else. |
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