Can connect to Internet but cannot see shared computers

I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:57:00 -0800, Art
wrote:

I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

Howdy,

I know nothing whatever about Vista, but...

In XP, the problem you describe can be caused by a
particular setting in the Advanced TCP/IP properties.

If netbios over TCP/IP is disabled you will see just what
you have described.

Perhaps the helpfile in Vista can point you to the setting
location.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

can you ping each other by IP? If yes, can you ping by name?

--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Art" wrote in message
...
I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same
router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file
sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing
Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I
cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:37:09 -0500, Kenneth
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:57:00 -0800, Art
wrote:

I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

Howdy,

I know nothing whatever about Vista, but...

In XP, the problem you describe can be caused by a
particular setting in the Advanced TCP/IP properties.

If netbios over TCP/IP is disabled you will see just what
you have described.

Perhaps the helpfile in Vista can point you to the setting
location.

All the best,

Hi again,

I just spotted this:

For Windows Vista
1. On the desktop, right-click Network, and then click
Properties.
2. Under Tasks, click Manage network connections.
3. Right-click Local Area Connection, and then click
Properties
4. In the This connection uses the following items list,
double-click Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4), click
Advanced, and then click the WINS tab.

You should see the netbios settings there...

Turn it ON, and you should be set.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Just noticed one more thing... I can ping from XP to Vista - no problem, but
Vista to XP - request times out. Pinging the router from both machines work
fine.

"Art" wrote:

I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

Thank you for the quick reply.
Yes, I enabled NetBios on both machines and even disabled TCP/IPv6 on Vista.

I can only ping from XP to Vista and only by IP... is this useful info?

"Kenneth" wrote:

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:37:09 -0500, Kenneth
wrote:

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:57:00 -0800, Art
wrote:

I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

Howdy,

I know nothing whatever about Vista, but...

In XP, the problem you describe can be caused by a
particular setting in the Advanced TCP/IP properties.

If netbios over TCP/IP is disabled you will see just what
you have described.

Perhaps the helpfile in Vista can point you to the setting
location.

All the best,

Hi again,

I just spotted this:

For Windows Vista
1. On the desktop, right-click Network, and then click
Properties.
2. Under Tasks, click Manage network connections.
3. Right-click Local Area Connection, and then click
Properties
4. In the This connection uses the following items list,
double-click Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4), click
Advanced, and then click the WINS tab.

You should see the netbios settings there...

Turn it ON, and you should be set.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Robert, only from XP to Vista and only by IP

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

can you ping each other by IP? If yes, can you ping by name?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Art" wrote in message
...
I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same
router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file
sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing
Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I
cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:59:00 -0800, Art
wrote:

Just noticed one more thing... I can ping from XP to Vista - no problem, but
Vista to XP - request times out. Pinging the router from both machines work
fine.

Hi again,

When Vista to XP times out are you pinging to IP, or by
name?

Related to that, on the Vista box, what is your IP
Properties setting for "Preferred DNS Server?"

Thanks,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

I'm pinging by IP. When I ping by name I get "Ping request could not find
host".

My DNS is set to automatic. When I look in ipconfig, DNS is 192.168.1.1
which is my router IP.

"Kenneth" wrote:

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:59:00 -0800, Art
wrote:

Just noticed one more thing... I can ping from XP to Vista - no problem, but
Vista to XP - request times out. Pinging the router from both machines work
fine.

Hi again,

When Vista to XP times out are you pinging to IP, or by
name?

Related to that, on the Vista box, what is your IP
Properties setting for "Preferred DNS Server?"

Thanks,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:38:00 -0800, Art
wrote:

I'm pinging by IP. When I ping by name I get "Ping request could not find
host".

My DNS is set to automatic. When I look in ipconfig, DNS is 192.168.1.1
which is my router IP.


Hi again,

Well then, I am out of my depth...

I hope that one of the folks who understand this stuff will
help.

Good luck with it,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

It could be 3rd party software. For troubleshooting, start the both
computers with clean boot. Please post back with the result.
Windows general
How to run Windows OS with a clean boot · How to Run Windows Safe Mode
with Networking · How to setup DHCP for IP Phone How to sort programs in
Start ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windo...owsgeneral.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Art" wrote in message
...
Robert, only from XP to Vista and only by IP

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

can you ping each other by IP? If yes, can you ping by name?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Art" wrote in message
...
I have a Vista Ultimate desktop connected to Netgear router through a
wire
and a laptop running XP Tablet Edition connected wirelessl to the same
router.
Internet works fine on both machines but I cannot seem to use file
sharing.
On Vista, I can only see the laptop when I go to Network and Sharing
Center
- View full map, and even then I cannot open it. On the laptop (XP) I
cannot
see the network at all, neither by opening Workgroup computers, nor by
entering the network path to the share.
I have already checked the following:
- Firewalls on both machines are turned off
- Same workgroup name
- Same user account name
- Turned off Simple File Sharing
- Shared appropriate folders

At the same time, both machines show that I am connected to the
network.
Please help, this makes no sense to me!