Build 1074 feels like Linux

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:43 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a crock of
****.

What Gates/Jobs stole from Xerox:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rkstations.jpg



So are you saying Xerox Alto/Star is better than Windows (only using
your "logic")

Jobs was the one who "stole" from Xerox and even then, he paid for the
right to do so. Everyone knows that the modern GUI was ripped off from
Mac OS and that Atari's TOS and every other imaginable modern operating
system was the result of it.

Actually, the GUI was ripped off of Xerox. My point was they steal from
each other.

However, the Start button, the system tray
and the application menu used by so many Linux environments were a
creation of Microsoft and introduced in Windows 95.

So, what's good for the goose ...

If Microsoft is evil
and everything they do is wrong,

I never said that. I like Windows for some things and Linux for others.
Why are you so close minded?

you have to wonder why Linux developers
have done everything in their power to imitate it, as poorly as they have.

And MS has stolen stuff from Linux. Seems to be that sort of world
unless you're a user and then you gotta pay.

Snip lies and insults.

--
A

On 6/13/2015 10:31 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or
anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to
images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB






(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg






(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png






(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png






(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who
has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts,
I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in
addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?


No, I just give up in disgust, I have ****ed around with this Linux crap
since the introduction of REDHAT and to this day, After trying Umpteen
dozen distros I have not yet found one that is suitable for the average
desktop.
They should stick to Servers where they are very good at.

Regards, Rene

On 06/13/2015 01:37 AM, Stef wrote:

[snip]

Our educational system (at least in the U.S.) pander to poor
students and teaching by rote instead of understanding concepts. This
philosophy affects good students badly as they aren't challenged
sufficiently.

I remember once in first grade when the teacher made a mistake on a math
test and included something like "3 - 7 = ?". I knew the answer (my
father used to talk about such things), and it was counted wrong. You
were supposed to say there was no solution.

And actually never reach their full potential. Teaching
methods were similar when I was in school, but standards were a lot
higher, you were expected to do well, and were "held back" when you
didn't.

[snip]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshipped anything but himself." -- Richard Burton

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:31 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or
anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to
images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB







(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start
button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg







(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png







(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system
tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png







(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You
can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do
something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who
has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts,
I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like
Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in
addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest
account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This
argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in
Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking
the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your
credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of
unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?


No, I just give up in disgust, I have ****ed around with this Linux crap
since the introduction of REDHAT and to this day, After trying Umpteen
dozen distros I have not yet found one that is suitable for the average
desktop.
They should stick to Servers where they are very good at.

Regards, Rene


I like and use Mint. Net Runner ain't bad either.

--
A

Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 06/13/2015 01:37 AM, Stef wrote:

[snip]

Our educational system (at least in the U.S.) pander to poor
students and teaching by rote instead of understanding concepts. This
philosophy affects good students badly as they aren't challenged
sufficiently.

I remember once in first grade when the teacher made a mistake on a math
test and included something like "3 - 7 = ?". I knew the answer (my
father used to talk about such things), and it was counted wrong. You
were supposed to say there was no solution.

I "like" the Creative Spelling concept of 20+ years ago: So as not to
stifle student creativity and lower self-esteem, mispellings weren't
corrected or marked "wrong" (Heaven forbid the damage that would do).
In a few years when the student was more confident, they would
"correct" all those mispelled words. Yeah. Right. That worked well. Then
there was Creative Math. Don't get me started. ;-)

Stupidity is everywhere. Impossible to fix. Particularly when the
"solutions" are politically motivated.

Stef

On 6/13/2015 11:15 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:31 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or
anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows
95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to
images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB








(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start
button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png
(KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg








(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png








(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg

(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system
tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png








(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You
can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do
something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who
has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts,
I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like
Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in
addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest
account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This
argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave
birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in
Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze
the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to
have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several
times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking
the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your
credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of
unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the
others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can
barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP
SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I
found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries
gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things,
NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?


No, I just give up in disgust, I have ****ed around with this Linux crap
since the introduction of REDHAT and to this day, After trying Umpteen
dozen distros I have not yet found one that is suitable for the average
desktop.
They should stick to Servers where they are very good at.

Regards, Rene


I like and use Mint. Net Runner ain't bad either.



There seems to be about 5 versions of Mint 17 on their web page, Which
one would I choose?
I have a good machine with an i7 processor, 16 GB of ram all up to
date so hardware is not a problem.


Regards, Rene

On 2015-06-13 11:22 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB





(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg





(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png





(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png





(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts, I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

It's amazing what the Linux Loser Liar's Club keeps trying to get us to
believe. Even back in the late 90s and early 2000s, they tried to make
me believe that I was wasting my time with 9x or even the NT Windows
versions. "Linux is rock solid!" they'd claim and constantly show me
their uptimes on IRC. Of course, the uptimes were referring to servers
which didn't have any DE installed and which were left to do their own
thing in the background. Once I tried to use the "operating system" on
my desktop, not only was it ugly and inconsistent, but just about
everything seemed to crash at all times. Needless to say, I was glad to
get back into Windows 98 and 2000 when I did.


--
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Proud "wintroll"
Encrypt.

On 2015-06-13 11:31 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or
anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to
images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB






(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg






(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png






(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png






(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who
has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts,
I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in
addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?

"Linux just works!" you just have to make sure that you "don't give up"
when it doesn't "just work" as we claim!


--
Slimer
Proud "wintroll"
Encrypt.

On 2015-06-13 11:35 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:43 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

What Gates/Jobs stole from Xerox:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rkstations.jpg




So are you saying Xerox Alto/Star is better than Windows (only using
your "logic")

Jobs was the one who "stole" from Xerox and even then, he paid for the
right to do so. Everyone knows that the modern GUI was ripped off from
Mac OS and that Atari's TOS and every other imaginable modern operating
system was the result of it.

Actually, the GUI was ripped off of Xerox. My point was they steal from
each other.

It was the logical evolution of the operating system. Apple got there
first and paid for the privilege but whether they liked to admit it or
not, a graphical user interface was going to happen whether they liked
it or not. Apple's TOS stole its look from MacOS and was blatantly about
it, but Windows was only remotely similar even though they got sued. For
subsequent versions, Apple had no case and they knew it very well.

snip

And MS has stolen stuff from Linux. Seems to be that sort of world
unless you're a user and then you gotta pay.

Name on thing Microsoft has stolen from Linux.


--
Slimer
Proud "wintroll"
Encrypt.

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:43:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I remember once in first grade when the teacher made a mistake on a math
test and included something like "3 - 7 = ?". I knew the answer (my
father used to talk about such things), and it was counted wrong. You
were supposed to say there was no solution.


I was an excellent math student as a kid, and used to score 100% on
almost all the tests. But once I added 2 + 2 and got 5. I only got a
95% on that test.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 11:15 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:31 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or
anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows
95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to
images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB









(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start
button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png
(KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the
dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg









(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png









(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg


(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system
tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png









(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You
can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete,
losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do
something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who
has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts,
I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like
Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in
addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest
account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This
argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with
you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave
birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in
Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze
the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to
have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several
times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking
the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your
credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of
unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the
others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can
barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP
SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I
found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries
gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things,
NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?


No, I just give up in disgust, I have ****ed around with this Linux crap
since the introduction of REDHAT and to this day, After trying Umpteen
dozen distros I have not yet found one that is suitable for the average
desktop.
They should stick to Servers where they are very good at.

Regards, Rene


I like and use Mint. Net Runner ain't bad either.



There seems to be about 5 versions of Mint 17 on their web page, Which
one would I choose?
I have a good machine with an i7 processor, 16 GB of ram all up to
date so hardware is not a problem.


Regards, Rene


Any of them. I use Mate.

--
A

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 11:31 AM, A wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 6/13/2015 10:03 AM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:37 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:15 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:05 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 4:28 PM, T wrote:

3) M$ has a long history of ripping others off

Absolutely, it's not like Linux ripped Microsoft off or
anything...

GNOME until 3 - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
KDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
XFCE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
Cinnamon - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
MATE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXDE - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95
LXQT - Looks and behaves exactly like Windows 95

Clearly, Linux is the hotbed of original ideas.


So many lies, so much bull****. NONE of them look like Windows 95.

LOL, let's have the newsgroup decide. I'll provide links to
images of
each one of them:

https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-...2-32.png.en_GB







(Gnome 2, notice the taskbar at the bottom and the "start
button" at
the
top left)

https://www.kde.org/announcements/4....ts/desktop.png (KDE,
notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the taskbar and the
system
tray)

http://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/up...13/11/XFCE.png (XFCE,
notice
the "start button" Applications menu at the top left and the dock,
stolen from OS X)

http://helpsite.org/wp-content/uploa...on-Desktop.jpg







(Cinnamon, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
taskbar,
the system bar and the application shortcuts bar)

https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Scre...screenshot.png







(MATE, notice the "start button" at the top left, the application
shortcut tray, the taskbar and the system tray at the top right)

http://www.linuxinsider.com/images/a...74_990x557.jpg
(LXDE, notice the "Start button" at the bottom left, the system
tray
and
the taskbar)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...f_LXQt_0.7.png







(LXQT, notice the "start button" at the bottom left, the
applications
shortcuts tray, the taskbar and the system tray)

Need I go on? The Linux kernel is in itself a ripoff of UNIX and
most of
the desktop environments are clearly a ripoff of Windows 95. You
can
continue to call me a liar and embarrass yourself complete, losing
every
ounce of credibility you have in the process or you can do
something
Linux advocates seem incapable of and apologize to the person who
has
just schooled you. As long as imbeciles like you are around to
propagate
false propaganda about Linux in the hope of gaining converts,
I'll be
around to dismiss whatever bull**** you've spewed and bring you
back to
reality.



iOS, Windows, Next, Linux, etc. have similar looks. Linux is more
configurable. None of these screen shots look exactly like Win95.

So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like
Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

Linux
doesn't do much malware. Windows loves malware.

Windows 7 and 8 have built-in defenses against malware. It, in
addition
to setting your UAC to the highest level or even using a Guest
account
as you would in Linux ensures that malware stays off. This
argument is
an old one and doesn't excuse how awful Linux is.

Linux is more stable.
Windows is not.

This was only true when Microsoft was delivering the 9x of Windows.
Since 2000, it has been the absolute opposite. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1
work
wonderfully and do not crash unless you use faulty hardware.

Bull****.

To a blind Linux advocate. Meanwhile, the 90% of the computer-using
world which has chosen Windows over OS X and Linux disagrees with you.
It's not a coincidence that the operating system you guys gave birth to
in a toilet is only used by about 1.5% of the world. Hell, I was in
Cuba
where a distribution is sponsored by the government and where Windows
use is discouraged and its airports and resorts _STILL_ use Windows.
Even the dirt-poor Communists refuse to use it, imagine that.

Linux, on
the other hand, has applications which just quit for no reason and
don't
even provide you with an explanation as well as bugs which freeze the
system entirely and require you to power off. Your continued
bull**** is
noted.

You're the one doing the bull****ting. I've never known anyone to have
those types of problems with Linux.

I have no reason to believe you since you've already lied several times
to protect your toiletware, in particular about updates not breaking
the
system and it not borrowing heavily from Windows 95. Your
credibility is
nil and therefore any statement you make is worth less than dirt.

Linux is free. Windows is not.

Ebola is free, the vaccine against it is not.

Your analogy is false but, then again, so are you.

I have evidence and statistics on my side, you have a bunch of
unwashed,
obese, bearded virgin fellow liars on yours. I prefer my position.



Well A, listen and learn, Yesterday out of sheer boredom I Loaded up
Zorin Linux, I saw on the web that it was better then some of the others
I've tried.
Well as usual the network would not work,with my Nettgear WDRN 3100v2
adapter, had to switch to an older Dlink unit and **** around with it
till got it to work.

Sound was weak had to turn speakers up to about 70% manually.
Then finally tried to increase cursor size from 24 to 36 as I can barely
see the tiny white cursor on a light background.
Anyway when i tried to back out of Dconf THE SYSTEM LOCKED UP SOLID!!!!!
I had to power off the computer to reboot back to Windows, Where I found
That Your so good Linux had lost all The macros on my Steelseries gaming
Keyboard. SO DON'T tell me that you have never heard of such things, NOW
YOU HAVE.
Needless to say another Linus distro went into the ****pile.

Rene

Do you always give up so easily?

"Linux just works!" you just have to make sure that you "don't give up"
when it doesn't "just work" as we claim!



No OS "just works", dumb ass.

--
A

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 11:35 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 10:43 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
So it's forgivable for Linux to have a start button, have the same
elements in the same parts of the screen and even operate like Windows
95 as long as it doesn't look *exactly* like Windows 95. What a
crock of
****.

What Gates/Jobs stole from Xerox:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rkstations.jpg





So are you saying Xerox Alto/Star is better than Windows (only using
your "logic")

Jobs was the one who "stole" from Xerox and even then, he paid for the
right to do so. Everyone knows that the modern GUI was ripped off from
Mac OS and that Atari's TOS and every other imaginable modern operating
system was the result of it.

Actually, the GUI was ripped off of Xerox. My point was they steal from
each other.

It was the logical evolution of the operating system. Apple got there
first and paid for the privilege but whether they liked to admit it or
not, a graphical user interface was going to happen whether they liked
it or not. Apple's TOS stole its look from MacOS and was blatantly about
it, but Windows was only remotely similar even though they got sued. For
subsequent versions, Apple had no case and they knew it very well.

snip

And MS has stolen stuff from Linux. Seems to be that sort of world
unless you're a user and then you gotta pay.

Name on thing Microsoft has stolen from Linux.



Previews and the way windows open and close in Win 7 and up off the top
of my head. I hear that Win 10 may have more than one workstation like
Linux.

--
A

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:10:44 +0200, A wrote:

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:03 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 6:33 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:18:27 -0400
Slimer wrote:

On 2015-06-12 4:47 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:36:57 -0700, T wrote:

On 06/11/2015 12:56 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
The problem with Linux distros is that when they come out with a
new version they always introduce new bugs.

As opposed to Windows? Oh my goodness!!! M$ has a long history of
patches breaking all kinds of things. And their OS updates have
a habit of breaking most everything, which is the point, so you
have to buy updates and spend $$$$ on programmers, who have to buy
software from M$ to write those programs.

And as far as Linux goes, the things I have noticed getting broken
as trivial. And the new bugs that get introduced a far fewer
than the bugs that get fixed.

And, And, you can always get Red Hat Enterprise Linux (or clones),
where things are locked down from that sort of thing for 10
years!

I can't be sure, but Linux has a .0000005% of the desktop users at
the most ??

1.5%, give or take. People tend to try it out and lose their ****
within the first week of its installation because an update broke
some of the functionality or left them with an unusable desktop.

Why don't you quit lying and tell the truth for a change? I have never
known an update to break anything. The people that give up in a week,
just won't accept the fact that Linux is a completely different
operating system, and take the time to learn how to use it. Instead
they give up and run back to something that is more comfortable and
familiar to them.

I moved to Linux to get away from the Spyware that Windows is, and
promised myself that I wouldn't go back, and I haven't.

I probably had more trouble learning how to use Linux Mint without
screwing it up so bad it was useless, than anyone, but I stuck with it,
and had people to help me, and I'm still using it 18 months later.

I'm lying about updates breaking the system? Let's see...

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/arch-29/arch-update-%3D-break-4175438110/



Three years old.


https://superuser.com/questions/372962/why-would-an-efi-bios-update-break-the-efi-boot-manager





Two years old.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/223143/broken-package-after-update-linux-headers-error-brokencount-0




A year old and Ubuntu isn't as good as Mint.


https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72815/mint-update-with-nvidia-breaks-cinnamon




Two years old and three Linux versions behind.



http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/recent-update-broke-ubuntu-desktop-on.html




A year old.

https://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=32123

A year old and a few versions behind on a little known distro.


I'm sure all of those are lies as well.

Seems to me their problems rest between the keyboard and the chair, just
like you.


You might want to think twice about calling someone a liar when so much
evidence is available on the web. Take your Linux propaganda and shove
it up your ass, nobody here cares about the amateur code you call an
operating system.


Wrong again, I'm interested.

Ugh, manipulation. If the articles were just two weeks old, you would
actually say "two weeks old" as if it somehow forgave the operating
system. The point I was making was that updating Linux risks breaking
it. Your friend didn't believe me and I proved it with a number of
links. You can claim that it's an old problem and that it's been fixed,
but the reality is that it is a problem which has existed since Linux's
beginnings and it is still around.


I've never had that problem since 03. What am I doing wrong? It's easy
to find problems with *any* OS, dumb ass, even Windows. I worked on a
Windows laptop computer that would not boot. As the reboot on BSOD is
set by default, there was no way to read the BSOD code. It wouldn't go
into Safe Mode. Windows 7. Hardware, you'd say? Nope, WINDOWS. I
reinstalled Windows and it's been working fine for a couple of weeks
now. So if you think your little Google searches prove anything, I want
whatever it is you've been smoking.

A, what you are smoking must be some wicked shift. You seem to be
hallucinating.
--
JT

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:56:48 -0700, Justin Tyme
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:10:44 +0200, A wrote:

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-13 7:03 AM, A wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-06-12 6:33 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:18:27 -0400
Slimer wrote:

On 2015-06-12 4:47 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:36:57 -0700, T wrote:

On 06/11/2015 12:56 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
The problem with Linux distros is that when they come out with a
new version they always introduce new bugs.

As opposed to Windows? Oh my goodness!!! M$ has a long history of
patches breaking all kinds of things. And their OS updates have
a habit of breaking most everything, which is the point, so you
have to buy updates and spend $$$$ on programmers, who have to buy
software from M$ to write those programs.

And as far as Linux goes, the things I have noticed getting broken
as trivial. And the new bugs that get introduced a far fewer
than the bugs that get fixed.

And, And, you can always get Red Hat Enterprise Linux (or clones),
where things are locked down from that sort of thing for 10
years!

I can't be sure, but Linux has a .0000005% of the desktop users at
the most ??

1.5%, give or take. People tend to try it out and lose their ****
within the first week of its installation because an update broke
some of the functionality or left them with an unusable desktop.

Why don't you quit lying and tell the truth for a change? I have never
known an update to break anything. The people that give up in a week,
just won't accept the fact that Linux is a completely different
operating system, and take the time to learn how to use it. Instead
they give up and run back to something that is more comfortable and
familiar to them.

I moved to Linux to get away from the Spyware that Windows is, and
promised myself that I wouldn't go back, and I haven't.

I probably had more trouble learning how to use Linux Mint without
screwing it up so bad it was useless, than anyone, but I stuck with it,
and had people to help me, and I'm still using it 18 months later.

I'm lying about updates breaking the system? Let's see...

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/arch-29/arch-update-%3D-break-4175438110/



Three years old.


https://superuser.com/questions/372962/why-would-an-efi-bios-update-break-the-efi-boot-manager





Two years old.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/223143/broken-package-after-update-linux-headers-error-brokencount-0




A year old and Ubuntu isn't as good as Mint.


https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72815/mint-update-with-nvidia-breaks-cinnamon




Two years old and three Linux versions behind.



http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/recent-update-broke-ubuntu-desktop-on.html




A year old.

https://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=32123

A year old and a few versions behind on a little known distro.


I'm sure all of those are lies as well.

Seems to me their problems rest between the keyboard and the chair, just
like you.


You might want to think twice about calling someone a liar when so much
evidence is available on the web. Take your Linux propaganda and shove
it up your ass, nobody here cares about the amateur code you call an
operating system.


Wrong again, I'm interested.

Ugh, manipulation. If the articles were just two weeks old, you would
actually say "two weeks old" as if it somehow forgave the operating
system. The point I was making was that updating Linux risks breaking
it. Your friend didn't believe me and I proved it with a number of
links. You can claim that it's an old problem and that it's been fixed,
but the reality is that it is a problem which has existed since Linux's
beginnings and it is still around.


I've never had that problem since 03. What am I doing wrong? It's easy
to find problems with *any* OS, dumb ass, even Windows. I worked on a
Windows laptop computer that would not boot. As the reboot on BSOD is
set by default, there was no way to read the BSOD code. It wouldn't go
into Safe Mode. Windows 7. Hardware, you'd say? Nope, WINDOWS. I
reinstalled Windows and it's been working fine for a couple of weeks
now. So if you think your little Google searches prove anything, I want
whatever it is you've been smoking.

A, what you are smoking must be some wicked shift. You seem to be
hallucinating.
wicked ****.
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JT