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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
Got this card yesterday, got a new case w/ 400w PS for it. I'm running XP
w/ Biostar m7viw AMD XP 2000+ CPU 512 megs RAM DX 9 Put the MoBo in the new case, formatted the HD, reinstalled XP from scratch and it's been hell ever since. I installed some sort of ATI update from Microsoft while I was updating XP w/ all the critical fixes, then installed the 4.3 Catalyst drivers from the ATI website and the system went bonkers. It would give me VPU errors, corrupt the screen and tell me that the video card stopped responding, I was finally able to disable the VPU warnings, then the system refused to boot. Or rather it would boot, show the logon screen, then present a black screen fronm which I had no choice but to reboot. I tried reinstalling the drivers in safe mode, I reinstalled XP from scratch 2x times, and now I've got the card sort of 1/2 way limping along, indentified as a 9600 series in System Properties, but no ATI drivers are recognized. and truth be told, I'm almost afraid to try re-installing the drivers for fear that the system will go bonkers again. Any help/advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks. |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
Install the motherboard chipset drivers.
"James R. Lunsford" wrote in message ... Got this card yesterday, got a new case w/ 400w PS for it. I'm running XP w/ Biostar m7viw AMD XP 2000+ CPU 512 megs RAM DX 9 Put the MoBo in the new case, formatted the HD, reinstalled XP from scratch and it's been hell ever since. I installed some sort of ATI update from Microsoft while I was updating XP w/ all the critical fixes, then installed the 4.3 Catalyst drivers from the ATI website and the system went bonkers. It would give me VPU errors, corrupt the screen and tell me that the video card stopped responding, I was finally able to disable the VPU warnings, then the system refused to boot. Or rather it would boot, show the logon screen, then present a black screen fronm which I had no choice but to reboot. I tried reinstalling the drivers in safe mode, I reinstalled XP from scratch 2x times, and now I've got the card sort of 1/2 way limping along, indentified as a 9600 series in System Properties, but no ATI drivers are recognized. and truth be told, I'm almost afraid to try re-installing the drivers for fear that the system will go bonkers again. Any help/advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks. |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
and leave the MS update for it alone....disable fast writes in BIOS also
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
and leave the MS update for it alone....disable fast writes in BIOS also
Half wrong.... ENABLE fast writes with that card. Radeon 9600 cards are the exception from the rule. They only run reliably with fast writes ON. All others Radeons need them off. |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
"Dirk Dreidoppel" wrote in message ... and leave the MS update for it alone....disable fast writes in BIOS also Half wrong.... ENABLE fast writes with that card. Radeon 9600 cards are the exception from the rule. They only run reliably with fast writes ON. All others Radeons need them off. All wrong ... It's a function of the motherboard chipset and SMARTGART, not the card. Fast writes are disabled by default on older VIA chipsets, even though many of us were able to force them to work bypassing SMARTGART. On my current Intel-chipset Abit IC7, fast writes are on by default and work without a hitch with my 9500@9700 Pro. I could and did run with fast writes enabled using a Radeon 8500 on a VIA KT133A a couple of years back. Fast writes do almost nothing for performance, and can be a source of instability, especially when overclocking the vid card or AGP bus. That's why it's standard troubleshooting advice to disable them when there's a problem. |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
Fast writes do almost nothing for performance, and can be a source of
instability, especially when overclocking the vid card or AGP bus. That's why it's standard troubleshooting advice to disable them when there's a problem. Quite right. However, my 9600 XT crashes (in NWN for example) after 10 seconds at best without fast writes enabled. With the enabled, the game runs without a hitch for hours. And I have an old VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset (the P3 equivalent to the KT133A). There's a reason why Omegadrive has forced fast writes on on all 9600 cards and off on all others in his last set. He didn't even leave an option to change that. |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
"Dirk Dreidoppel" wrote in message
... Such bad manners! Skid posted this: "Skid" wrote in message news:9s%5c.30912$_w.528977@attbi_s53... Fast writes do almost nothing for performance, and can be a source of instability, especially when overclocking the vid card or AGP bus. That's why it's standard troubleshooting advice to disable them when there's a problem. Quite right. However, my 9600 XT crashes (in NWN for example) after 10 seconds at best without fast writes enabled. With the enabled, the game runs without a hitch for hours. And I have an old VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset (the P3 equivalent to the KT133A). There's a reason why Omegadrive has forced fast writes on on all 9600 cards and off on all others in his last set. He didn't even leave an option to change that. I was also surprised to find, after using cards that usually wouldn't even let me enable fast writes, and reading all the stuff about switching fast writes off anyway, that my Sapphire 9600 Pro VIVO definitely does run better with them on. It does seem to be a characteristic of 9600 cards. patrickp |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
Sorry to break the thread, but a note to Patrickp: I just got that same vivo
card and the board layout seems different (less large capcitors, etc.)--is this an old or new design, if you happpen to know? "patrickp" - take five to email me wrote in message ... "Dirk Dreidoppel" wrote in message ... Such bad manners! Skid posted this: "Skid" wrote in message news:9s%5c.30912$_w.528977@attbi_s53... Fast writes do almost nothing for performance, and can be a source of instability, especially when overclocking the vid card or AGP bus. That's why it's standard troubleshooting advice to disable them when there's a problem. Quite right. However, my 9600 XT crashes (in NWN for example) after 10 seconds at best without fast writes enabled. With the enabled, the game runs without a hitch for hours. And I have an old VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset (the P3 equivalent to the KT133A). There's a reason why Omegadrive has forced fast writes on on all 9600 cards and off on all others in his last set. He didn't even leave an option to change that. I was also surprised to find, after using cards that usually wouldn't even let me enable fast writes, and reading all the stuff about switching fast writes off anyway, that my Sapphire 9600 Pro VIVO definitely does run better with them on. It does seem to be a characteristic of 9600 cards. patrickp |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
ATI drivers can be a pain in the butt to install if you don't read and heed the install instructions.
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"Tom Salvin" wrote in message
... Sorry to break the thread, but a note to Patrickp: I just got that same vivo card and the board layout seems different (less large capcitors, etc.)--is this an old or new design, if you happpen to know? Don't know about the age of the design, but the card must have been old stock, because it's no longer imported into the UK and I had a devil of a time finding one. Was cheap, though - £92 inc VAT & p&p from RL Supplies. The board layout is different to what - a regular 9600 Pro? I haven't looked at one of those, I'm afraid, so I can't make the comparison. patrickp "patrickp" - take five to email me wrote in message ... "Dirk Dreidoppel" wrote in message ... Such bad manners! Skid posted this: "Skid" wrote in message news:9s%5c.30912$_w.528977@attbi_s53... Fast writes do almost nothing for performance, and can be a source of instability, especially when overclocking the vid card or AGP bus. That's why it's standard troubleshooting advice to disable them when there's a problem. Quite right. However, my 9600 XT crashes (in NWN for example) after 10 seconds at best without fast writes enabled. With the enabled, the game runs without a hitch for hours. And I have an old VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset (the P3 equivalent to the KT133A). There's a reason why Omegadrive has forced fast writes on on all 9600 cards and off on all others in his last set. He didn't even leave an option to change that. I was also surprised to find, after using cards that usually wouldn't even let me enable fast writes, and reading all the stuff about switching fast writes off anyway, that my Sapphire 9600 Pro VIVO definitely does run better with them on. It does seem to be a characteristic of 9600 cards. patrickp |
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Sapphire 128 9600 install hell
Skid wrote:
"Dirk Dreidoppel" wrote in message ... and leave the MS update for it alone....disable fast writes in BIOS also Half wrong.... ENABLE fast writes with that card. Radeon 9600 cards are the exception from the rule. They only run reliably with fast writes ON. All others Radeons need them off. All wrong ... Dirk is right with the 9600 .. fast writes should be on. regards @ndrew |
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