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Old October 28th 12, 05:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?
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Old October 28th 12, 06:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default So, how is W8 on a non-touch screen computer?

Ant wrote:
Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?


I have had a demo on one. It's got appeal.
I have an iPad and a Kindle Touch, so I'm used to the experience.
But I like my desktop, good seat where I like it, mouse and keyboard.
And I wouldn't think of getting a touch-screen with it.

Ed

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Old October 28th 12, 07:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:27:58 -0700, Ant wrote:

Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?



I am and my wife is. It's fine.

Please realize that Windows 8 has two interfaces--Metro and one much
like Windows 7's. You can use either or both. When you're not using
the Metro interface, a touch screen would do little or nothing for
you. And if you are using Metro (which I sometimes do), a touch screen
would be nice, but it's far from necessary; even Metro works fine
without a touch screen.



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Old October 28th 12, 07:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Ed Cryer wrote:
Ant wrote:
Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?


I have had a demo on one. It's got appeal.
I have an iPad and a Kindle Touch, so I'm used to the experience.
But I like my desktop, good seat where I like it, mouse and keyboard.
And I wouldn't think of getting a touch-screen with it.

Ed


Touch-screens are everywhere.
Market check-outs.
Doctor's surgery for appointment.
Govt. offices for info etc.
Tablet computers, phones, e-readers etc.

It's something that I didn't grow up with; but it's something that many
young people are growing up with, and to them a mouse & keyboard must
seem antiquated.

I have a growing suspicion that MS are going to corner a vast market
with their new Win8.
And, quite frankly, I wish them luck.

Ed
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Old October 28th 12, 08:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default So, how is W8 on a non-touch screen computer?

On 28 Oct 2012, Ed Cryer wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Touch-screens are everywhere.
Market check-outs.
Doctor's surgery for appointment.
Govt. offices for info etc.
Tablet computers, phones, e-readers etc.

It's something that I didn't grow up with; but it's something that
many young people are growing up with, and to them a mouse &
keyboard must seem antiquated.


If I don't have to type in much input, a touch screen might be
adequate. However a nice, large monitor works best at just below eye
level, and be a few feet back, which is not a good position for
touching. Also, to have to reach out to touch the screen and then go
back to the keyboard is inconveniently far. Keyboard to mouse is closer
and more convenient. To have to use all three is just silly.

Touch screens are fine for consuming content, for selecting stuff to
buy from a list, maybe for text messaging and tweeting, but I'd hate to
write a novel, program computer code, edit sound, or do anything
constructive on a touch computer.
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Old October 28th 12, 10:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Agree!

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:27:58 -0700, Ant wrote:

Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?



I am and my wife is. It's fine.

Please realize that Windows 8 has two interfaces--Metro and one much
like Windows 7's. You can use either or both. When you're not using
the Metro interface, a touch screen would do little or nothing for
you. And if you are using Metro (which I sometimes do), a touch screen
would be nice, but it's far from necessary; even Metro works fine
without a touch screen.



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Old October 28th 12, 10:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default So, how is W8 on a non-touch screen computer?

On 28 Oct 2012 19:16:01 GMT, Nil
wrote:

On 28 Oct 2012, Ed Cryer wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Touch-screens are everywhere.
Market check-outs.
Doctor's surgery for appointment.
Govt. offices for info etc.
Tablet computers, phones, e-readers etc.

It's something that I didn't grow up with; but it's something that
many young people are growing up with, and to them a mouse &
keyboard must seem antiquated.


If I don't have to type in much input, a touch screen might be
adequate. However a nice, large monitor works best at just below eye
level, and be a few feet back, which is not a good position for
touching. Also, to have to reach out to touch the screen and then go
back to the keyboard is inconveniently far. Keyboard to mouse is closer
and more convenient. To have to use all three is just silly.

Touch screens are fine for consuming content, for selecting stuff to
buy from a list, maybe for text messaging and tweeting, but I'd hate to
write a novel, program computer code, edit sound, or do anything
constructive on a touch computer.



I wouldn't particularly want a touch screen on my desktop here,
because as you say, its location wouldn't be convenient. If I had one
I'd probably play with it for a while, then soon stop using it.


But I'd like one on a tablet that I could take with me when I
traveled, instead of having a larger heavier laptop to carry.



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Old October 28th 12, 10:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Ant" wrote in message
om...


Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?


Read.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...treme tech%29

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Old October 29th 12, 12:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:27:58 -0700, Ant wrote:

Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?



I am and my wife is. It's fine.

Please realize that Windows 8 has two interfaces--Metro and one much
like Windows 7's. You can use either or both. When you're not using
the Metro interface, a touch screen would do little or nothing for
you. And if you are using Metro (which I sometimes do), a touch screen
would be nice, but it's far from necessary; even Metro works fine
without a touch screen.

How does one access the interface that is "much like Windows7's"? Do you
mean the Desktop tile?
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Old October 29th 12, 12:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:25:36 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:



"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:27:58 -0700, Ant wrote:

Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?



I am and my wife is. It's fine.

Please realize that Windows 8 has two interfaces--Metro and one much
like Windows 7's. You can use either or both. When you're not using
the Metro interface, a touch screen would do little or nothing for
you. And if you are using Metro (which I sometimes do), a touch screen
would be nice, but it's far from necessary; even Metro works fine
without a touch screen.

How does one access the interface that is "much like Windows7's"? Do you
mean the Desktop tile?



Yes, clicking on the Desktop tile is one way. And if the tile is the
upper left hand one, just press enter. Or just press the Windows key.


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Old October 29th 12, 12:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:35:08 -0400, "FDK" wrote:



"Ant" wrote in message
om...


Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?


Read.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...treme tech%29




And especially note the last sentence of page one the " For those
of you who want the Start menu back, there?s an app called Classic
Shell that returns it, and gives you access to a huge range of
configurable options."

I use Classic Shell and like it a lot. With that running, most people
would have a hard time realizing that what I was running was not
Windows 7.


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Old October 29th 12, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Ant wrote in
m:

Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?


I installed it last Friday night on an i5 laptop running Win7
Home Premium. So far, I'm not disliking it. :-) It's
certainly weird not having the start menu but I'm thinking
that I'll get used to it. My wife has a Gateway AIO touch-
screen (i3 cpu with 6gb of RAM); from what she's seen of
Win8, she's going to like it when I upgrade her AIO to it.

For now, I'm sticking with Win7 on my desktop while I get
used to Win8 on my laptop.
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Old October 29th 12, 01:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:22:57 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On 28 Oct 2012 19:16:01 GMT, Nil wrote:

On 28 Oct 2012, Ed Cryer wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Touch-screens are everywhere.
Market check-outs.
Doctor's surgery for appointment.
Govt. offices for info etc.
Tablet computers, phones, e-readers etc.

It's something that I didn't grow up with; but it's something that
many young people are growing up with, and to them a mouse & keyboard
must seem antiquated.


If I don't have to type in much input, a touch screen might be
adequate. However a nice, large monitor works best at just below eye
level, and be a few feet back, which is not a good position for
touching. Also, to have to reach out to touch the screen and then go
back to the keyboard is inconveniently far. Keyboard to mouse is closer
and more convenient. To have to use all three is just silly.

Touch screens are fine for consuming content, for selecting stuff to
buy from a list, maybe for text messaging and tweeting, but I'd hate to
write a novel, program computer code, edit sound, or do anything
constructive on a touch computer.



I wouldn't particularly want a touch screen on my desktop here, because
as you say, its location wouldn't be convenient. If I had one I'd
probably play with it for a while, then soon stop using it.


But I'd like one on a tablet that I could take with me when I traveled,
instead of having a larger heavier laptop to carry.


Personal choice - having tried both a netbook and a 7" tablet with
touchscreen, I find the netbook much more to my liking.
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Old October 29th 12, 02:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:25:36 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:



"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:27:58 -0700, Ant wrote:

Is anyone using it on non-tablet/touch screen machines?


I am and my wife is. It's fine.

Please realize that Windows 8 has two interfaces--Metro and one much
like Windows 7's. You can use either or both. When you're not using
the Metro interface, a touch screen would do little or nothing for
you. And if you are using Metro (which I sometimes do), a touch screen
would be nice, but it's far from necessary; even Metro works fine
without a touch screen.

How does one access the interface that is "much like Windows7's"? Do you
mean the Desktop tile?



Yes, clicking on the Desktop tile is one way. And if the tile is the
upper left hand one, just press enter. Or just press the Windows key.

Yeah, that's kinda what I thought you meant. I like the "use Win7 explorer"
method much better. That's even MORE like Win7 :-)
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1573...for-windows-8/

(See my reply to Dave-UK in the "classic shell vs Retro UI" thread.)
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Old October 29th 12, 07:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 10/28/2012 5:38 PM PT, ray typed:

Personal choice - having tried both a netbook and a 7" tablet with
touchscreen, I find the netbook much more to my liking.


Ditto. I want a physical keyboard even if it is tiny.
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