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Old October 17th 14, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?

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Old October 18th 14, 12:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 10/17/2014 6:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?

That would be nice!
A stockholder.
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Old October 18th 14, 04:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:15:05 -0400, Charlie wrote:

On 10/17/2014 6:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?

That would be nice!
A stockholder.


Hold onto that stock. Windows 10 will be a killer. Running the preview
and I think it will appeal to both long time and new users. Also has a
couple of Enterprise features that are nice additions.
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Old October 18th 14, 06:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:51:54 -0400, Neil wrote:

I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?


Money?

Why Microsoft Is Giving Windows Away on Small Devices
http://recode.net/2014/04/02/why-mic...small-devices/

Microsoft challenges Android with Windows giveaway
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/387976/m...ndows-giveaway


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Old October 18th 14, 06:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?


Microsoft's vice president of OEM partners Nick Parker claimed similar 4
months ago based on MSFT providing Windows 8.1 free to OEM's for devices
under 9 inches.

If MSFT is providing the o/s free, that gamble would only be in apps and
on units capable of installing other fee based MSFT software.

Also, with Win10 on the horizon, its time for OEM tablet manufacturers
to start liquidating their inventory that MSFT has already booked those
Windows licensing as receivables.

i.e. whatever margin (profit) exists that ship's gamble may have already
sailed with device sale cash flow into the OEM pocket not MSFT's.

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Old October 18th 14, 09:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 10/17/2014 05:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?




Even though I do not care for the Metro interface on a PC.
A friend of mine did pick up a Win8 tablet and it seems to be pretty nice.


My biggest complaint with Win8 is simply that I thought it should have
defaulted to Metro on a touch screen device...and Classic on a non-touch
screen device.
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Old October 18th 14, 10:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:38:46 -0700, sane wrote:

On 10/17/2014 6:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?

That would be nice!
A stockholder.


Hold onto that stock. Windows 10 will be a killer. Running the preview
and I think it will appeal to both long time and new users. Also has a
couple of Enterprise features that are nice additions.


If Windows 10 kills anything it will be my interest in using any
Microsoft products at all. They *still* don't seem to have realised
that whatever may or may not work with fat fingers on a tablet,
millions of desktop users don't want a screenful of those tiles.

A simple menu with a list, occupying only a part of the screen near
the corner, has been good enough for most operating systems (some of
them not even theirs) for nearly twenty years. It was only with the
introduction of those confounded tiles that sales started to plummet
and the criticisms began. They ought to be able to learn something
from this and offer what the majority of their customers want, rather
than what they seem hell-bent on giving us.

I'm glad that the way things are going with Linux development, when
support for Windows 7 runs out in 2020, Windows 10 is unlikely to be
the only worthwhile replacement available.

Rod.
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Old October 18th 14, 11:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:07:17 +0100, Roderick Stewart wrote:

I'm glad that the way things are going with Linux development,
when support for Windows 7 runs out in 2020, Windows 10 is
unlikely to be the only worthwhile replacement available.


No, we'll be up to Windows 15 by then.
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Old October 18th 14, 11:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 18/10/2014 10:07 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:38:46 -0700, sane wrote:

On 10/17/2014 6:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?

That would be nice!
A stockholder.


Hold onto that stock. Windows 10 will be a killer. Running the preview
and I think it will appeal to both long time and new users. Also has a
couple of Enterprise features that are nice additions.


If Windows 10 kills anything it will be my interest in using any
Microsoft products at all. They *still* don't seem to have realised
that whatever may or may not work with fat fingers on a tablet,
millions of desktop users don't want a screenful of those tiles.

A simple menu with a list, occupying only a part of the screen near
the corner, has been good enough for most operating systems (some of
them not even theirs) for nearly twenty years. It was only with the
introduction of those confounded tiles that sales started to plummet
and the criticisms began. They ought to be able to learn something
from this and offer what the majority of their customers want, rather
than what they seem hell-bent on giving us.

I'm glad that the way things are going with Linux development, when
support for Windows 7 runs out in 2020, Windows 10 is unlikely to be
the only worthwhile replacement available.

Rod.


Absolutely. Windows 10 is not a shred better than 8.1 - except, when you
find it, it has a "shutdown" button. That being said, with Classic Shell
added it can be turned into a usable system, and it works fine once you
have spent quite some time doing that. One can only assume that
Microsoft have totally abandoned the enterprise market, because
businesses still using desktops (most of them) won't touch it with a
bargepole if there is any alternative. At the moment it still isn't
Linux, but, as you remark, it may well be by the time Windows 7 expires.

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Old October 18th 14, 12:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil Gould[_2_]
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....winston‫ wrote:
Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?


Microsoft's vice president of OEM partners Nick Parker claimed
similar 4 months ago based on MSFT providing Windows 8.1 free to
OEM's for devices under 9 inches.

If MSFT is providing the o/s free, that gamble would only be in apps
and on units capable of installing other fee based MSFT software.

That is what I think, too. But, those are no small potatoes when there are
tens of millions of users world-wide.

Also, with Win10 on the horizon, its time for OEM tablet manufacturers
to start liquidating their inventory that MSFT has already booked
those Windows licensing as receivables.

Since there doesn't seem to be a significant change in hardware requirements
between Win8 and 10 (as there is between Win7 and 8) my guess is that will
have little or no negative impact at all users.

i.e. whatever margin (profit) exists that ship's gamble may have
already sailed with device sale cash flow into the OEM pocket not
MSFT's.

I don't think MS is gambling on hardware sales all that much. It's not their
game.

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Old October 18th 14, 12:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil Gould[_2_]
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

philo wrote:
On 10/17/2014 05:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?




Even though I do not care for the Metro interface on a PC.
A friend of mine did pick up a Win8 tablet and it seems to be pretty
nice.


My biggest complaint with Win8 is simply that I thought it should have
defaulted to Metro on a touch screen device...and Classic on a
non-touch screen device.

I take it that you didn't install Win8.1? I had to go through a good bit of
re-configuring to get my notebook to boot to Metro again after that
installation.

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Neil



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Old October 18th 14, 01:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:37:04 +0100, Bob Henson
wrote:

Absolutely. Windows 10 is not a shred better than 8.1 - except, when you
find it, it has a "shutdown" button. That being said, with Classic Shell
added it can be turned into a usable system, and it works fine once you
have spent quite some time doing that.


Agreed, but it shouldn't need anything extra to turn it into a usable
system. If I've paid my money for something I expect it to be usable
as it is. Like the previous version, and the one before that, so we
know they can do it...

Rod.
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Old October 18th 14, 01:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 03:50:27 -0500, philo* wrote:


My biggest complaint with Win8 is simply that I thought it should have
defaulted to Metro on a touch screen device...and Classic on a non-touch
screen device.


Or use different systems for different devices perhaps? My desktop
computer uses Windows 7 and my phone uses a completely different
operating system called Android. This causes me no problems
whatsoever, so why do they think they need to solve one?

They seem to be chasing a kind of holy grail of one operating system
that will work on all computing devices regardless of shape, size,
function or battery capacity. This immediately suggests that if they
achieve anything close, it's bound to be a compromise, and nobody
seems to have established if this is a holy grail that anybody
actually wants.

Rod.
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Old October 18th 14, 01:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Roderick Stewart used his keyboard to write :
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:37:04 +0100, Bob Henson
wrote:

Absolutely. Windows 10 is not a shred better than 8.1 - except, when you
find it, it has a "shutdown" button. That being said, with Classic Shell
added it can be turned into a usable system, and it works fine once you
have spent quite some time doing that.


Agreed, but it shouldn't need anything extra to turn it into a usable
system. If I've paid my money for something I expect it to be usable
as it is. Like the previous version, and the one before that, so we
know they can do it...

Rod.


A lot of discussion when a lot can change before RTM.

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Old October 18th 14, 02:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 10/18/2014 07:42 AM, Neil Gould wrote:
philo wrote:
On 10/17/2014 05:51 PM, Neil wrote:
I noticed that there are a number of new tablets from 7-10" starting
below $100US. Looks like the Metro UI gamble may start to make some
money for MS?




Even though I do not care for the Metro interface on a PC.
A friend of mine did pick up a Win8 tablet and it seems to be pretty
nice.


My biggest complaint with Win8 is simply that I thought it should have
defaulted to Metro on a touch screen device...and Classic on a
non-touch screen device.

I take it that you didn't install Win8.1? I had to go through a good bit of
re-configuring to get my notebook to boot to Metro again after that
installation.


The 8.1 installs that I have seen default to the Metro side not the desktop.

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