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file association not sticking?
I go to a folder with .webm and .mp4 files in it. The .webm ones have a
traffic cone (VLC), the .mp4 ones a waveform (WinAmp). I want them all to open in VLC, so I right-click on one of the .mp4 ones, select "Open with", ignore the VLC option and select "Choose default program", and select VLC there. The file opens in VLC, and when I subsequently look at the folder, all are traffic cones and open in VLC. But at _some_ time subsequently, the .mp4 files are back with WinAmp. I don't _think_ I've got WinAmp's "protect my associations" turned on (even if I have, why does it allow the change temporarily?). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf People may say I can't sing, but no-one can ever say I didn't sing. Florence Foster Jenkins (reportedly) |
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file association not sticking?
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I go to a folder with .webm and .mp4 files in it. The .webm ones have a traffic cone (VLC), the .mp4 ones a waveform (WinAmp). I want them all to open in VLC, so I right-click on one of the .mp4 ones, select "Open with", ignore the VLC option and select "Choose default program", and select VLC there. The file opens in VLC, and when I subsequently look at the folder, all are traffic cones and open in VLC. But at _some_ time subsequently, the .mp4 files are back with WinAmp. I don't _think_ I've got WinAmp's "protect my associations" turned on (even if I have, why does it allow the change temporarily?). Some apps are very rude. When you load them, they re-associate filetypes to themselves. It's been awhile since I hit a program like that but it's been way too long to remember what was the program (I vaguely recall it was RealPlayer). All its users complained about it *stealing* the file associations. Eventually the program stopped stealing the file association just because the user loaded it. https://www.google.com/search?q=wina...%20association That shows users complaining about WinAmp rudely and covertly stealing file associations to assign to itself. While some posts are old (circa 2000), WinAmp is also old (last updated back in 2013). Perhaps there is a user configurable setting regarding WinAmp's behavior to *not* have it steal file associations to itself. That is, maybe there is an option to associate certain filetypes to itself when loaded but you can disable that "feature". |
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 08:50:18 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I go to a folder with .webm and .mp4 files in it. The .webm ones have a traffic cone (VLC), the .mp4 ones a waveform (WinAmp). I want them all to open in VLC, so I right-click on one of the .mp4 ones, select "Open with", ignore the VLC option and select "Choose default program", and select VLC there. The file opens in VLC, and when I subsequently look at the folder, all are traffic cones and open in VLC. But at _some_ time subsequently, the .mp4 files are back with WinAmp. I don't _think_ I've got WinAmp's "protect my associations" turned on (even if I have, why does it allow the change temporarily?). WinAmp has a setting that restore its file associations when the application is run. So, disable that setting, and remove the WinAmp's unwanted file associations. |
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file association not sticking?
In message , VanguardLH
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: I go to a folder with .webm and .mp4 files in it. The .webm ones have a traffic cone (VLC), the .mp4 ones a waveform (WinAmp). I want them all to open in VLC, so I right-click on one of the .mp4 ones, select "Open with", ignore the VLC option and select "Choose default program", and select VLC there. The file opens in VLC, and when I subsequently look at the folder, all are traffic cones and open in VLC. But at _some_ time subsequently, the .mp4 files are back with WinAmp. I *** don't _think_ I've got WinAmp's "protect my associations" turned on *** (even if I have, why does it allow the change temporarily?). Some apps are very rude. When you load them, they re-associate filetypes to themselves. It's been awhile since I hit a program like that but it's been way too long to remember what was the program (I vaguely recall it was RealPlayer). All its users complained about it *stealing* the file associations. Eventually the program stopped stealing the file association just because the user loaded it. RealPlayer _was_ a terror at doing it, at one time. https://www.google.com/search?q=wina...%20association That shows users complaining about WinAmp rudely and covertly stealing file associations to assign to itself. While some posts are old (circa 2000), WinAmp is also old (last updated back in 2013). Perhaps there is a user configurable setting regarding WinAmp's behavior to *not* have it steal file associations to itself. That is, maybe there is an option to associate certain filetypes to itself when loaded but you can disable that "feature". See above: I didn't think I had it on. I've just checked, and in Options | Preferences (I have version 5.61), there's a box labelled "Enable Winamp agent", below which is the explanation "Winamp agent can maintain your Winamp file associations and show an icon in the system tray. Disabling this feature may result in other applications launching when you open media files from Windows Explorer." I do _not_ have that box ticked. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf After all is said and done, usually more is said. |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , VanguardLH writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: I go to a folder with .webm and .mp4 files in it. The .webm ones have a traffic cone (VLC), the .mp4 ones a waveform (WinAmp). I want them all to open in VLC, so I right-click on one of the .mp4 ones, select "Open with", ignore the VLC option and select "Choose default program", and select VLC there. The file opens in VLC, and when I subsequently look at the folder, all are traffic cones and open in VLC. But at _some_ time subsequently, the .mp4 files are back with WinAmp. I *** don't _think_ I've got WinAmp's "protect my associations" turned on *** (even if I have, why does it allow the change temporarily?). Some apps are very rude. When you load them, they re-associate filetypes to themselves. It's been awhile since I hit a program like that but it's been way too long to remember what was the program (I vaguely recall it was RealPlayer). All its users complained about it *stealing* the file associations. Eventually the program stopped stealing the file association just because the user loaded it. RealPlayer _was_ a terror at doing it, at one time. https://www.google.com/search?q=wina...%20association That shows users complaining about WinAmp rudely and covertly stealing file associations to assign to itself. While some posts are old (circa 2000), WinAmp is also old (last updated back in 2013). Perhaps there is a user configurable setting regarding WinAmp's behavior to *not* have it steal file associations to itself. That is, maybe there is an option to associate certain filetypes to itself when loaded but you can disable that "feature". See above: I didn't think I had it on. I've just checked, and in Options | Preferences (I have version 5.61), there's a box labelled "Enable Winamp agent", below which is the explanation "Winamp agent can maintain your Winamp file associations and show an icon in the system tray. Disabling this feature may result in other applications launching when you open media files from Windows Explorer." I do _not_ have that box ticked. Set the filetype associations how you want. Load WinAmp. If the filetype associations change then you know the culprit that changed them (despite how the program is configured). A program can get confused regarding its settings. Rather than always read them from the registry (which is the memory copy, not the disk copy that read into memory on Windows startup), they store them in their own memory space or in their own config file. Toggle the setting: set it to other than what it is now, exit and reload the program, and toggle it back to the original setting, and exit and reload the program. When you exit the program, make sure ALL of its processes get unloaded so they aren't hanging onto old settings. Sounds like "agent" is a separate process from the main GUI that you use for the program. You don't need and don't want some superfluous process consuming memory and CPU cycles to steal filetype associations that you don't want to get changed. If the tray program, agent, provides both filetype stealing and other functions, you'll lose the other functions to keep their agent process from stealing filetype associations. |
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In message , VanguardLH
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: [] See above: I didn't think I had it on. I've just checked, and in Options | Preferences (I have version 5.61), there's a box labelled "Enable Winamp agent", below which is the explanation "Winamp agent can maintain your Winamp file associations and show an icon in the system tray. Disabling this feature may result in other applications launching when you open media files from Windows Explorer." I do _not_ have that box ticked. Set the filetype associations how you want. Load WinAmp. If the filetype associations change then you know the culprit that changed them (despite how the program is configured). I should have thought of trying that. You are correct, it is WinAmp that is doing it, despite that setting. A program can get confused regarding its settings. Rather than always read them from the registry (which is the memory copy, not the disk copy that read into memory on Windows startup), they store them in their own memory space or in their own config file. Toggle the setting: set it to other than what it is now, exit and reload the program, and toggle it back to the original setting, and exit and reload the program. When you exit the program, make sure ALL of its processes get unloaded so they aren't hanging onto old settings. Sounds like "agent" is a separate process from the main GUI that you use for the program. You don't need and don't want some superfluous process consuming memory and CPU cycles to steal filetype associations that you don't want to get changed. If the tray program, agent, provides both filetype stealing and other functions, you'll lose the other functions to keep their agent process from stealing filetype associations. I was about to work through all that, when I noticed a much simpler answer: as well as the "agent" tickbox, there's also a "Restore file associations at WinAmp start-up" one! (It's rather a cluttered page, or I hope I'd have noticed it sooner.) Unticking that, and all is well! (And also, UAC no longer comes up when I start WinAmp, which makes sense.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations... |
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