What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

Stated more clearly, what FUNCTIONALITY is of importance to you, that you
do on Windows 10 by virtue of the operating system alone?

There are already obvious things, so let's get them out of the way first.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)
2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)
3. Support (but that's a marketing decision - not technical functionality)
4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating systems)
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?

Please note that this thread is asking for technical functionality (due to
the operation system alone!) that is on Windows 10 that is just not
available on the earlier versions - it's not asking about Win10 gripes.

Specifically this is not a thread about what you hate about Windows 10,
since we all know that list is a mile long already.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to the OS)?

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This TECHNICAL thread is not meant as a gripe thread about Windows 10!

On 29/04/2018 21:56, Bob J Jones wrote:
What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?





You can brag that you are an intelligent person because Windows 10
requires some intelligence; In your case you don't have any so don't
bother with Windows 10; Instead go to some Linux Newsgroup where you
can find some like-minded people like you.

So now this is your new NYM right? SteveGG and Windows10Hater is gone
forever it seems and now we have Bob Jones.

Your intelligence is so limited that you don't even know where to ask
Windows 10 questions. Intelligent people don't normally cross-post to
random newsgroups like you have doing for months.

Have you always been so stupid? Your parents must be regretting not to
abort you.

/--- This email has been checked for viruses by
Windows Defender software.
//https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/
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With over 600 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

On 4/29/2018 1:56 PM, Bob J Jones wrote:
What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

1) buy a new computer.
Joe average is unwilling to jump thru hoops to get a lesser OS on his
new computer.
2) stay connected.
Society is caught in an endless loop. Desire to (re)broadcast every
thought of OTHER people drives software to do that which
drives the desire to use it which...
3) stay up to date.
Eventually, support for older OS's is no longer supported.
Move on or get left behind. Nobody wants that...

You're asking the wrong people.
Anybody reading this already has the information required to do whatever
they want to do.
For the vast majority of computer owners, it makes no difference at all.
They take whatever MS offers and they get on with posting cat pictures.
Your opinions make no difference to anybody.
Microsoft will continue to do whatever makes money for microsoft.
What we can or can't do makes no difference to anybody. The list
provides no new options to anyone.

Stated another way,
What are you gonna do with the list when you compile it?

Stated more clearly, what FUNCTIONALITY is of importance to you, that you
do on Windows 10 by virtue of the operating system alone?

There are already obvious things, so let's get them out of the way first.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)
2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)
3. Support (but that's a marketing decision - not technical functionality)
4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating systems)
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?

Please note that this thread is asking for technical functionality (due to
the operation system alone!) that is on Windows 10 that is just not
available on the earlier versions - it's not asking about Win10 gripes.

Specifically this is not a thread about what you hate about Windows 10,
since we all know that list is a mile long already.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to the OS)?

This TECHNICAL thread is not meant as a gripe thread about Windows 10!
Good luck with that...

On 04/29/2018 4:28 PM, mike wrote:
On 4/29/2018 1:56 PM, Bob J Jones wrote:
What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or
Windows 7?

1) buy a new computer.
Joe average is unwilling to jump thru hoops to get a lesser OS on his
new computer.
2) stay connected.
Society is caught in an endless loop.Â* Desire to (re)broadcast every
thought of OTHER people drives software to do that which
drives the desire to use it which...
3) stay up to date.
Eventually, support for older OS's is no longer supported.
Move on or get left behind.Â* Nobody wants that...

You're asking the wrong people.
Anybody reading this already has the information required to do whatever
they want to do.
For the vast majority of computer owners, it makes no difference at all.
They take whatever MS offers and they get on with posting cat pictures.
Your opinions make no difference to anybody.
Microsoft will continue to do whatever makes money for microsoft.
What we can or can't do makes no difference to anybody.Â* The list
provides no new options to anyone.

Stated another way,
What are you gonna do with the list when you compile it?

Stated more clearly, what FUNCTIONALITY is of importance to you, that you
do on Windows 10 by virtue of the operating system alone?

There are already obvious things, so let's get them out of the way first.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)
2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)
3. Support (but that's a marketing decision - not technical
functionality)
4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating systems)
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?

Please note that this thread is asking for technical functionality
(due to
the operation system alone!) that is on Windows 10 that is just not
available on the earlier versions - it's not asking about Win10 gripes.

Specifically this is not a thread about what you hate about Windows 10,
since we all know that list is a mile long already.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just
can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to the OS)?

This TECHNICAL thread is not meant as a gripe thread about Windows 10!
Good luck with that...


Windows 10 keeps this newsgroup alive. :-)

Rene

On 04/29/2018 4:40 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 04/29/2018 4:28 PM, mike wrote:
On 4/29/2018 1:56 PM, Bob J Jones wrote:
What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or
Windows 7?

1) buy a new computer.
Joe average is unwilling to jump thru hoops to get a lesser OS on his
new computer.
2) stay connected.
Society is caught in an endless loop.Â* Desire to (re)broadcast every
thought of OTHER people drives software to do that which
drives the desire to use it which...
3) stay up to date.
Eventually, support for older OS's is no longer supported.
Move on or get left behind.Â* Nobody wants that...

You're asking the wrong people.
Anybody reading this already has the information required to do whatever
they want to do.
For the vast majority of computer owners, it makes no difference at all.
They take whatever MS offers and they get on with posting cat pictures.
Your opinions make no difference to anybody.
Microsoft will continue to do whatever makes money for microsoft.
What we can or can't do makes no difference to anybody.Â* The list
provides no new options to anyone.

Stated another way,
What are you gonna do with the list when you compile it?

Stated more clearly, what FUNCTIONALITY is of importance to you, that
you
do on Windows 10 by virtue of the operating system alone?

There are already obvious things, so let's get them out of the way
first.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS
related)
2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)
3. Support (but that's a marketing decision - not technical
functionality)
4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating
systems)
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?

Please note that this thread is asking for technical functionality
(due to
the operation system alone!) that is on Windows 10 that is just not
available on the earlier versions - it's not asking about Win10 gripes.

Specifically this is not a thread about what you hate about Windows 10,
since we all know that list is a mile long already.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just
can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to the OS)?

This TECHNICAL thread is not meant as a gripe thread about Windows 10!
Good luck with that...


Windows 10 keeps this newsgroup alive.Â* :-)

Rene




OOPs wrong newsgroup.

Rene

As with every operating system, it ages.
Installation becomes more difficult as it ages.
Hardware is less supported as it ages.
Some software runs slower on an old operating system.
My days of worrying about bulk/bloatware are gone.
I use blazing fast NVMe drives that can easily hold Windows 10 and all
of my software.

The fact Microsoft is trying to turn the desktop PC into a smartphone
has one benefit. It necessitates compactness.


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Bob J Jones wrote:

What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or
Windows 7?

Stated more clearly, what FUNCTIONALITY is of importance to you,
that you do on Windows 10 by virtue of the operating system alone?

There are already obvious things, so let's get them out of the way
first.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to
the OS? 1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it
isn't OS related) 2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I
don't - but some do) 3. Support (but that's a marketing decision -
not technical functionality) 4. Cascaded menus (but this can be
fudged on the newer operating systems) 5. ? 6. ? 7. ? 8. ? 9. ?
10. ?

Please note that this thread is asking for technical functionality
(due to the operation system alone!) that is on Windows 10 that is
just not available on the earlier versions - it's not asking about
Win10 gripes.

Specifically this is not a thread about what you hate about
Windows 10, since we all know that list is a mile long already.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just
can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to
the OS)?

"Bob J Jones" wrote in message news

What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?

Stated more clearly, what FUNCTIONALITY is of importance to you, that you
do on Windows 10 by virtue of the operating system alone?

There are already obvious things, so let's get them out of the way first.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)
2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)
3. Support (but that's a marketing decision - not technical functionality)
4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating systems)
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?

Please note that this thread is asking for technical functionality (due to
the operation system alone!) that is on Windows 10 that is just not
available on the earlier versions - it's not asking about Win10 gripes.

Specifically this is not a thread about what you hate about Windows 10,
since we all know that list is a mile long already.

What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to the OS)?


Here's a couple of links that may help fill in some of the missing answers:

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/buying...ws-xp-3622746/
https://www.winxdvd.com/answers/wind...windows-xp.htm

Got lazy and wasn't going to type out what is readily available.
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Bob S.

In news wrote:

The fact Microsoft is trying to turn the desktop PC into a smartphone
has one benefit. It necessitates compactness.

This one point wasn't in the original post so I thank you.

That makes it, so far, this as the major differences in functionality:
1. 64-bit
2. Subscriptions & updates
3. Support
4. Cascaded menus
5. Touch screen
6. DirectX 12 (for gamers only though)
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?

In news
Got lazy and wasn't going to type out what is readily available.
Most "news" articles are nearly worthless shills.
Both articles you cited fit that description of being nearly worthless.

*Most articles are mindless marketing bull****.*

I value the insight from real users here who aren't selling me something.

Here's a couple of links that may help fill in some of the missing answers:
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/buying...ws-xp-3622746/

That entire article was almost completely fluff.
It was something a fifth grader could have written.

There was only 1 potentially useful item we didn't already think of:
* DirectX 12 (for gamers only though)

So I'll add DirectX to the list. Thanks.
(The rest of the stuff in that article was well-known marketing garbage.)

https://www.winxdvd.com/answers/wind...windows-xp.htm

WTF? Did a Microsoft Marketing intern write that article?

The biggest deal in Windows 10 over WinXP/Win7 is MKV?
Huh?

Windows 10 supports MKV?
WinXP & Win7 don't support MKV?

Makes no sense.
At least not to me.

WTF? Snap assist? Really? Is this a bull**** marketing article or what?

Continium? WTF? Did a Microsoft Marketing intern write that article?

WTF? The Command Prompt? Who on earth actually believes this bull****?

WTF? The Spartan Browser? That article is complete marketing bull****.
Like most of these bull**** marketing articles.

Maybe you misunderstood the request.
I wanted input from "real users" - not mindless Microsoft marketing bull****

"Bob J Jones" wrote

| What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
| 1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)

No, it isn't. So why mention it? My Win7 box
is 64-bit. All of my computers have AMD CPUs
that will support 64-bit anything.
And very few things actually benefit from
64-bit. The most notable would be media editing
programs that can benefit from having a lot of
RAM. 64-bit is still something that's being done
in preparation for a time when it will be needed.
You're android love doll will need 64-bit in order
to act convincingly like a human.

| 2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)

You mean subscription software from Windows
Store? Win8 has that. Doesn't Win7 still get
updates? In any case, that has nothing to do
with "things you can do".

| 4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating systems)

?? Have I missed something? Start Menu and
program menus cascade on Win98.

The main reason given for new versions is security,
which is a red herring issue. I have no doubt that
my XP box with no AV is safer than Win10 -- because
I'm careful online and no one is targetting XP. Security
risks are caused by allowing executable code from
a remote machine.

The only sensible reason to buy new OSs is
support for hardware or software that's new.
Adobe Photoshop doesn't support XP. Firefox
recently dropped support for XP, as did Libre
Office. New games may not run on Win7. Newer
hardware might be an issue. Those are *real*
reasons why you might need to update.

Anyone currently running XP has to accept
that support is going to start being dropped.
Whether that's a problem depends on what they
want to do.
Windows 7? Win10 has barely caught up with
Win7 usage online. It's probably still far behind
among offline machines. And Win7 is still supported
by MS. Most software support lasts well past
Microsoft support. So unless you're a teenager
obsessed with the newest games, software support
for Win7 is not likely to be an issue for at least 5
years. That's all the more true in the case of Win10
because corporate entities have avoided it as much
as possible. They're the ones who pay for software.

In news wrote:

This is part II of a two-part answer (because part 1 was already long).

| 2. Subscriptions & updates (if you want them - I don't - but some do)

You mean subscription software from Windows
Store? Win8 has that. Doesn't Win7 still get
updates? In any case, that has nothing to do
with "things you can do".

Good point.
I meant that Windows 10 is a "subscription" model.

I did not mean any particular apps.
But we can remove that from the list.

The reason I mentioned it was only because people are all pre-programmed on
their responses. They only have one response programmed in their minds once
any given set of keywords show up in a thread.

I was trying to head off having to respond to all those pre-programmed
responses.
It failed.


| 4. Cascaded menus (but this can be fudged on the newer operating systems)

?? Have I missed something? Start Menu and
program menus cascade on Win98.

Yes. You did miss something.
Nobody was asking about Win98.

The reason I picked the major releases out there is that my problem set
with other software includes two major releases even though there are
myriad releases in between.

So this discussion only applies to WinXP, Win7, and Win10.

The main reason given for new versions is security,
which is a red herring issue.

I completely agree.
Lots of reasons why I agree.
You know security. So do I. It's a red herring.

Only Microsoft Marketing brings it up.

I have no doubt that
my XP box with no AV is safer than Win10 -- because
I'm careful online and no one is targetting XP. Security
risks are caused by allowing executable code from
a remote machine.

Yep. Red herring is security.
I agree.

The only sensible reason to buy new OSs is
support for hardware or software that's new.

This is a valid issue - but really - is it a problem?
Can't XP or Win7 run on almost anything that's new today?

Adobe Photoshop doesn't support XP.

That's a red herring since it's not functionality "of" the operating
system.

Firefox
recently dropped support for XP, as did Libre
Office.

That's a red herring because it's not functionality "of" the operating
system.

New games may not run on Win7. Newer
hardware might be an issue. Those are *real*
reasons why you might need to update.

All red herrings unrelated to the question.
I understand your request for clarification, so, that's why I'm responding
in detail.

The question is what is inherently a functionality in Win10 (the OS) that
isn't in WinXP or Win7 that is useful to you, as a user?

Anyone currently running XP has to accept
that support is going to start being dropped.
Whether that's a problem depends on what they
want to do.

Red herring. We already listed that so there is no added value repeating
it.

Windows 7? Win10 has barely caught up with
Win7 usage online. It's probably still far behind
among offline machines.

Huh? What does that mean?

And Win7 is still supported
by MS.

This is true, but we are combining WinXP and Win7 where you're semantically
correct, but it's just a point if we bought too many arguments.

I do understand your clarification.
I'm just saying it's not what I was seeking as added value.

Most software support lasts well past
Microsoft support.

Yup. But that doesn't help answer the question.

So unless you're a teenager
obsessed with the newest games, software support
for Win7 is not likely to be an issue for at least 5
years.

One of the mostly marketing bull**** articles that someone pointed me to
mentioned DirectX support.

So far, that's the only added value in this thread yet.

I don't play games.
Is DirectX support in Win10 a big deal over Win7/WinXP or not?

That's all the more true in the case of Win10
because corporate entities have avoided it as much
as possible. They're the ones who pay for software.

The question is what is inherently a functionality in Win10 (the OS) that
isn't in WinXP or Win7 that is useful to you, as a user?

In news wrote:

| What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
| 1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)

No, it isn't. So why mention it?

[This is part I of a two-part answer (because part I was already long).]

Because I know most people are stupid.
Most people will instantly say stuff that doesn't answer the question.

Most people have pre-prared responses to just one or two keywords.
So, it doesn't matter what the question is.

Once you have one or two of those keywords, their pre-programmed response
kicks in instantly. They can't help themselves.

Want proof? Just look at the answers so far.

My Win7 box
is 64-bit. All of my computers have AMD CPUs
that will support 64-bit anything.

Yes. I know. I do.
I was just trying to NOT have to argue this point.

I had wanted people to actually stay on topic of the question.
That's the only reason it was included.

I guess it didn't work.

And very few things actually benefit from
64-bit.

Yes. I know. I really do.
A lot of things are slower, but let's stop talking about 64-bit because you
can ask *any* question on the planet that includes the term "64-bit" and
people will instantly respond with their pre-programmed responses.

You think I don't know that?
I was trying to head off at the pass what I *knew* people respond to.

Most people are stupid.
They don't read the question.
They don't even understand the question.

So the whole point was to weed out the stupid people.
It didn't work.

I know you're not stupid, but I'm still wasting everyone's time by agreeing
with you that 64-bit is unrelated - but I just wanted to NOT have to
discuss it since it's not the answer to the question.

So I agree with you and will remove it from the list.

I'll take the rest of your helpful comments separately where...

The question is what is inherently a functionality in Win10 (the OS) that
isn't in WinXP or Win7 that is useful to you, as a user?

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:56:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote:
What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY can you do on Windows 10 that you just can't do
on Windows XP or Windows 7 (that is related directly to the OS)?

- Use larger RAM. i.e. the physical memory.

- Use new features/functions of DirectX v12. i.e. better 3D graphics. IOTW,
play the latest games.

- Scale text and GUI up to 200%. e.g. for 4K+ monitors.

- Run consoles in full screen mode. But still in graphics video mode,
though.

- Run "app" applications. i.e. those from Windows Store.

- Use Microsoft Edge web browser.

I only need the last one, though...

On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 22:29:22 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
"Bob J Jones" wrote

| What top-ten FUNCTIONALITY is on Windows 10 related directly to the OS?
| 1. 64-bit (I say it 1st only because others will but it isn't OS related)

No, it isn't. So why mention it? My Win7 box
is 64-bit.

That and the other points, I think they're for people who aren't familiar
with computers and/or Windows.

All of my computers have AMD CPUs
that will support 64-bit anything.

Except for IA-64, ARM v8, and everything else 64-bit which are not x86-64
compatible.

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 02:29:08 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote:
5. Touch screen

Touch screen monitors usually provide the necessary driver and softwares for
at least Windows 7. So, Windows 10 isn't needed for touch screens. Some
ticket machines have a touch screen and they use Windows XP Embedded.