What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

On 7 Jul 2018 14:52:28 GMT, nospam wrote:

there are numerous ftp and smb apps for ios, either server or client,
as well as many other protocols.

As you know, I have ftp working well (and have done so, for years).
How to mount the entire mobile device file system on desktops
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.mobile.ipad/ix8xgTcexAY/dlY4nLMfAgAJ

In fact, you are well aware that I (long ago) already have seamless ftp set
up between all my devices, such that you already complained (long ago) that
I was "spying" on all the devices connected to my LAN, since, by default, I
can 'see' the entire visible file systems of all the devices that connect
to the LAN.

As you know, Windows, Linux, Android, and to a limited extent, iOS, all
"respect" the ftp protocol such that the file browsers open up the entire
visible file system on the devices, just as if they were local to the
desktop - s long as the device is running a suitable FTP server.

As you know, the free FTP server I've found most useful on Android is:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/

And, as you know, it's far more restricted on the Orwellian iOS systems
(where entire threads are devoted to getting around those restrictions).

As for SMB, without rooting, as you are well aware, and as Frank Slootweg
can attest to, SMB not better than FTP access if you don't root the device.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/6PQmYWSk34I/Dk4cGwEvCQAJ

where he needs luck is in getting his convoluted method to work
anywhere near as well as an existing password manager, or as secure.

You don't have a solution for three reasons:
a. You have no technical expertise (you just punch buttons),
b. You just guess (scoring worse than the monkey does0, and
c. You have never posted with helpful intent in your entire life.

Meanwhile, I almost always (if not always) solve *every* problem set I pose
to the newsgroups (thousands upon thousands of them, in fact).

This problem set is far too difficult for someone like nospam to help
because it requires meaningful comprehension of the stated problem set.

On 7 Jul 2018 17:18:25 GMT, nospam wrote:

in other words, you once again failed.

Hi nospam,
I've known you for a long time.

You don't ever have a solution top any problem for three reasons:
a. You have no technical expertise (you just punch buttons),
b. You just guess (scoring worse than the monkey does), and
c. You have never posted with helpful intent in your entire life.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:

(HINT: You'll see that tutorial nowhere else on the net, but here.)

for very good reasons.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:

there are numerous ftp and smb apps for ios, either server or client,
as well as many other protocols.

As you know, I have ftp working well (and have done so, for years).

you might think you do, but you do not.

what you have is an incredibly clumsy and convoluted solution requiring
numerous steps that are not needed. worse, you refuse to learn from
others to improve upon it.

On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 16:55:00 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

Thanks for that list of payware password managers.

Unfortunately, this list is even worse than the prior list
in that not one of those stores the password file on the LAN.

Summary:
1. Dashlane (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
2. RoboForm (shill to rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud)
3. mSecure (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
4. 1Password (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
5. LastPass (shill to rent your passwords after the 2-week trial period)

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

What I *don't* know, because I don't have a need for it, is whether two
or more PCs can point their Roboform instance to the *same* LAN-based
encrypted file.

In article , Char Jackson
wrote:

Thanks for that list of payware password managers.

Unfortunately, this list is even worse than the prior list
in that not one of those stores the password file on the LAN.

Summary:
1. Dashlane (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
2. RoboForm (shill to rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud)
3. mSecure (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
4. 1Password (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
5. LastPass (shill to rent your passwords after the 2-week trial period)

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

1password, definitely can store locally, and both dashlane and msecure
say they do on their website (haven't used either of those).

I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

he doesn't either.

What I *don't* know, because I don't have a need for it, is whether two
or more PCs can point their Roboform instance to the *same* LAN-based
encrypted file.

1password can sync over wifi simply by enabling the option.

msecure looks like it can also do that:
https://assets.msecure.com/websites/...641/Choose-Syn
c-Method.png

dunno about the others.

On 7 Jul 2018 19:25:09 GMT, nospam wrote:

I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

he doesn't either.

Yet again, nospam, you *prove you're an utter moron!*

a. You just guess (where your record, nospam, is worse than the monkey's).
b. Because ... you know nothing

The reference you failed to read clearly says, verbatim:
"Beyond the desktop, it also offers native apps for iOS and Android
devices. If you¢re a free user of RoboForm, your auto-logins and password
entries will be limited to 10 items. Naturally, RoboForm Everywhere unlocks
this restriction and costs (currently) $9.95 per year."

Only fools like you, nospam the troll, would fall for that style shill.

On 7 Jul 2018 18:57:55 GMT, Char Jackson wrote:

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

This is what the reference says, verbatim:

"If you¢re a free user of RoboForm, your auto-logins and password entries
will be limited to 10 items. Naturally, RoboForm Everywhere unlocks this
restriction and costs (currently) $9.95 per year."

What fool, besides the moronic troll nospam, wants that?

On 7 Jul 2018 17:28:03 GMT, nospam wrote:

for very good reasons.

Says the nospam troll who has never once done anything but punch buttons
that the Apple MARKETING team fed him.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:


I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

he doesn't either.

Yet again, nospam, you *prove you're an utter moron!*

a. You just guess (where your record, nospam, is worse than the monkey's).
b. Because ... you know nothing

The reference you failed to read clearly says, verbatim:

you failed to read the date of said reference, which is from 5 years
ago and very outdated.

all of the products listed have undergone at least one revision, if not
more.

there are also many *new* options that either did not exist or didn't
make the cut when that article was written.

"Beyond the desktop, it also offers native apps for iOS and Android
devices. If you¢re a free user of RoboForm, your auto-logins and password
entries will be limited to 10 items. Naturally, RoboForm Everywhere unlocks
this restriction and costs (currently) $9.95 per year."

that was 5 years ago. not now.

https://www.roboform.com

note the free option, then scroll to the bottom, where it gives
additional details:

€ Unlimited logins
€ Fills forms
€ Password audit
€*Password generator

Arlen,

Thanks for that list of file-sharing apps between the operating systems.

Both where the first ones returned when I threw a few keywords from your
request into google. (and yes, thats a hint)

None of the apps even comes remotely close to solving the stated
networking problem (since they all *copy* the file)

Maybe you should tell us what you REALLY after, instead of asking us for
suggestions and than rejecting them because they do not match something you
have not yet told us ?

And again, those links where a hinting suggestion. Throw some of your own
energy into it, and google a bit. I'm sure there are many more programs
which will allow you to communicate between multiple machines on a LAN
running undefined OSes.

Than again, you are looking for specific solutions, which are not always as
easy to find ... if they even exist that is

What might work though, is to set up a "local cloud",

Well, seeing that you do not trust cloudy solutions, why whould you set up
one yourself ? And why the F*ck would you go for something complex like
that ? K.I.S.S. (look it up).

In summary, neither list even remotedly came close to solving the problem,

a) it was not ment as such.

b) That can be, but the one at fault is you, as you have not yet specified
what the problem actually is / what the requirements are a suggestion needs
to live up to. Yes, I can make a few educated guesses but its your
project, so its upto *you* formulate and post it.

Besides, educated guesses ? That doesn't work all that well with someone
who, like you, has very specific requirements. :-)

Besides #2: I do not "do" iOS, Android or any of those other phone OSes, so
I could not give any specific info for it even if I wanted to.


But I have one last suggestion:

Put a (portable) WAMP on one of your local windows machines, and learn some
HTML, PHP and one of the SQL variants (SQLite comes to mind). That way
you can send, from *any* machine with a webbrowser on the LAN, a request to
the computer running that WAMP and have it do all the stuff and just return
the answers.

That way you do not have to trust *anyone*, and can keep-and-hold it all
under your own control.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

On 07 Jul 2018, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

What I *don't* know, because I don't have a need for it, is
whether two or more PCs can point their Roboform instance to the
*same* LAN-based encrypted file.

I don't know about Roboform, but Keepass can.

On 07 Jul 2018, "R.Wieser" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Maybe you should tell us what you REALLY after, instead of asking
us for suggestions and than rejecting them because they do not
match something you have not yet told us ?

It's the old "Why Don’t You -- Yes But..." game in Transactional
Analysis. The goal is to get attention and keep it as long as possible
by finding fault with all suggestions in order to get people to make
yet more suggestions, which will also be rejected, until they finally
give up in frustration. The goal is not to actually solve any problem.

On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 20:12:57 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

On 7 Jul 2018 18:57:55 GMT, Char Jackson wrote:

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

This is what the reference says, verbatim:

"If you¢re a free user of RoboForm, your auto-logins and password entries
will be limited to 10 items. Naturally, RoboForm Everywhere unlocks this
restriction and costs (currently) $9.95 per year."

https://www.roboform.com/everywhere

The link above compares the free version to the non-free version. The
very first item is "Unlimited Logins", available in both versions.

Several years ago, Roboform free *was* limited to 10 logins, sort of as
a trial, but they dumped that restriction quite some time ago.

What fool, besides the moronic troll nospam, wants that?

I don't know what you're trying to do. I'm just responding to keywords.

On 7 Jul 2018 22:13:44 GMT, Wolf K wrote:

Ah, I see: you want everything

Oh my God.

The Windows 10 trolls have arrived.

That means this thread is ruined once Nil, Char Jackson, JP Gilliver, and
especially Wolf K, the premier Windows 10 troll who infests this newsgroup.

Since the trolls above have taken over, I'm out of here.
They can have the thread.

The added value of the two commands is our contribution.

Start Run phone susan
Start Run vipw

The trolls can have it from here.