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  #61  
Old January 20th 14, 02:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:22:21 -0600, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Char Jackson typed:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:09:11 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

On 1/14/2014 3:33 PM, DianeLeMasson wrote:

The computer I'm writing on now is still my PC XP which does have
OE6 on it. The email program I'm talking about is OEClassic. It has
everything OE6 has.

Oh my Gawd! You know how long I was wishing for such a program? Thank
you, thank you, thank you for telling us about this gem.


Umm, it's basically OE they're talking about, the second worst email
program ever, second only to WLM. What's to be happy about? Oh, wait,
CTRL-H! Sorry.


Actually it isn't Outlook Express and it isn't developed by Microsoft.


I hope I didn't give you the impression that it was OE or that it was
developed by Microsoft. Perhaps you read it too quickly.

And I don't know why you say that OE is the second worse email program?


That was based on personal experience and the collective experience of a few
thousand users I've come into virtual contact with over the years.

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  #62  
Old January 20th 14, 02:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"DianeLeMasson" escreveu na mensagem
...

Hi

Just got a new computer with windows 8.
I exported my emails/messages into a different email program, not the one
Wins 8 has included. Works fine.
My question is: How do I find them on this computer/hard drive?
I've read through the help, books, anything I can get my hands on, still not
able to.
It's probably right in my face & not seeing it.
Yes I've unhidden files, if I did this correct in 'search' typed *,dbx, .dbx
& dbx,, nothing!!!
In Wins XP it was so simple to do, search files & folders.

Can some kind person please explain the method of finding it or point me in
the right
direction? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

Diane

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You can select location and type name of the file in upper right box on
windows explorer.

  #63  
Old January 20th 14, 03:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:50:53 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/18/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Gene I don't understand what you mean by too many carriage returns.
I meant there were carriage returns at the end of each line of your text
instead of only at the end of each paragraph, so it made for a messy
display at my end.

My reamrk was a bit too terse :-)

Sometimes, the appearance of a person's posting,
is a function of the header directive.

This is from Diane's header.

Format=Flowed; Response

I have no idea what "Response" means. Never seen it before.

The Format Flowed thing, controls automatic formatting.
Perhaps there's an interaction between what she typed,
the header declaration, and what your news client
does in response to Format Flowed.

http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html

To see what she typed, we could do this...

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%40fx30.iad%3E

and you could compare that to how her message looks in
your news client.

It's too complicated for me to figure out. I'll
let the BlochComputeEngine work on it :-)

Perhaps you could post a tinypic.com or imageshack.us
picture of that portion of the screen ?


Does your response mean that you didn't see what Gene (and I) saw?


Actually, mine looks like the howardknight.net one. Verbatim.

And the funny part is, my about:config in Thunderbird 2.0.0.24
is set to the default "false", which means my news client
should automatically format the read items. As the FAQ page
mentioned, I think the news client still has to honor
a hard return. So my client can't flow the text, because
the returns are stopping it.

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support false

I can tell there are hard returns in there. If you look
at the howardknight page, I can tell from the formatting
there, that there are hard returns. I just doesn't
bother me all that much.

If you guys post a pic, maybe I can see what is
upsetting you :-) Maybe each return is making a
separate paragraph or something ? Like one return
is converted into two returns, and making a paragraph
break of some sort ?

In any case, for someone playing along at home, when
you get a new news client, check the "wrap" setting (character
wrap) and "format flowed" settings, for best results.
Test in alt.test, before someone catches you :-) Etc.

Actually, get a better client than WLM (grumble grumble) :-)

Paul
  #64  
Old January 20th 14, 07:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:10:13 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:50:53 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/18/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Gene I don't understand what you mean by too many carriage returns.
I meant there were carriage returns at the end of each line of your text
instead of only at the end of each paragraph, so it made for a messy
display at my end.

My reamrk was a bit too terse :-)

Sometimes, the appearance of a person's posting,
is a function of the header directive.

This is from Diane's header.

Format=Flowed; Response

I have no idea what "Response" means. Never seen it before.

The Format Flowed thing, controls automatic formatting.
Perhaps there's an interaction between what she typed,
the header declaration, and what your news client
does in response to Format Flowed.

http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html

To see what she typed, we could do this...

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%40fx30.iad%3E

and you could compare that to how her message looks in
your news client.

It's too complicated for me to figure out. I'll
let the BlochComputeEngine work on it :-)

Perhaps you could post a tinypic.com or imageshack.us
picture of that portion of the screen ?


Does your response mean that you didn't see what Gene (and I) saw?


Actually, mine looks like the howardknight.net one. Verbatim.


Mine too, but I see that the howardknight link actually points to the wrong
post. Fortunately, A) the right post is fully quoted there, and B) her
follow-up post also exhibits the "too many CR's" attribute. So we have two
examples we can examine, with the first being worse than the second.

And the funny part is, my about:config in Thunderbird 2.0.0.24
is set to the default "false", which means my news client
should automatically format the read items. As the FAQ page
mentioned, I think the news client still has to honor
a hard return. So my client can't flow the text, because
the returns are stopping it.

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support false

I can tell there are hard returns in there. If you look
at the howardknight page, I can tell from the formatting
there, that there are hard returns. I just doesn't
bother me all that much.


Same here. It's notable, but not a big deal.

If you guys post a pic, maybe I can see what is
upsetting you :-) Maybe each return is making a
separate paragraph or something ? Like one return
is converted into two returns, and making a paragraph
break of some sort ?


You can see it in the howardknight link above, although I wouldn't say it's
upsetting me. I suspect it's not upsetting Gene, either. It's just a small
thing that makes reading a bit more difficult, that's all.

  #65  
Old January 20th 14, 09:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:10:13 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:50:53 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/18/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Gene I don't understand what you mean by too many carriage returns.
I meant there were carriage returns at the end of each line of your text
instead of only at the end of each paragraph, so it made for a messy
display at my end.

My reamrk was a bit too terse :-)

Sometimes, the appearance of a person's posting,
is a function of the header directive.

This is from Diane's header.

Format=Flowed; Response

I have no idea what "Response" means. Never seen it before.

The Format Flowed thing, controls automatic formatting.
Perhaps there's an interaction between what she typed,
the header declaration, and what your news client
does in response to Format Flowed.

http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html

To see what she typed, we could do this...

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%40fx30.iad%3E

and you could compare that to how her message looks in
your news client.

It's too complicated for me to figure out. I'll
let the BlochComputeEngine work on it :-)

Perhaps you could post a tinypic.com or imageshack.us
picture of that portion of the screen ?
Does your response mean that you didn't see what Gene (and I) saw?

Actually, mine looks like the howardknight.net one. Verbatim.


Mine too, but I see that the howardknight link actually points to the wrong
post. Fortunately, A) the right post is fully quoted there, and B) her
follow-up post also exhibits the "too many CR's" attribute. So we have two
examples we can examine, with the first being worse than the second.

And the funny part is, my about:config in Thunderbird 2.0.0.24
is set to the default "false", which means my news client
should automatically format the read items. As the FAQ page
mentioned, I think the news client still has to honor
a hard return. So my client can't flow the text, because
the returns are stopping it.

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support false

I can tell there are hard returns in there. If you look
at the howardknight page, I can tell from the formatting
there, that there are hard returns. I just doesn't
bother me all that much.


Same here. It's notable, but not a big deal.

If you guys post a pic, maybe I can see what is
upsetting you :-) Maybe each return is making a
separate paragraph or something ? Like one return
is converted into two returns, and making a paragraph
break of some sort ?


You can see it in the howardknight link above, although I wouldn't say it's
upsetting me. I suspect it's not upsetting Gene, either. It's just a small
thing that makes reading a bit more difficult, that's all.


What could be happening there, is her "wrap" setting
could be at the default 72. The news client window is
opened to a value greater than 72. And then it's tempting
to hit carriage return in such a case. However, when
the message is sent, it's being wrapped on transmission
at 72. It means both a human and a machine, are
modifying the appearance of the message.

Personally, I'm a fan of using hard returns. How I do this,
is set the wrap value to 1000 (meaning, don't wrap it for me).
And I insert carriage return where ever I want to.

In Thunderbird, in Advanced:Config Editor, that would be...

mailnews.wraplength user set integer 1000

That quite possibly is self-defeating of the
"format=flowed" in my message header. Oops!

Paul
  #66  
Old January 20th 14, 11:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/19/2014, Char Jackson posted:
Perhaps you could post a tinypic.com or imageshack.us
picture of that portion of the screen ?


Does your response mean that you didn't see what Gene (and I) saw?


I arbitrarily decided to reply here because I didn't where to break
into this subthread :-)

In the original post, each line of each paragraph stated on a new line.
Also some lines were broken in the middle and the second part started
on a new line.

The reply where I said "too many returns" showed the way Diane's
original post it looked when it was quoted here[1]. The quoted text has
a blank line after each line of a paragraph, which the original text
didn't have.

[1] Maybe not - I don't know how it looked on your computers.

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  #67  
Old January 21st 14, 12:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/19/2014, Char Jackson posted:
Perhaps you could post a tinypic.com or imageshack.us
picture of that portion of the screen ?


Does your response mean that you didn't see what Gene (and I) saw?


I arbitrarily decided to reply here because I didn't where to break into
this subthread :-)

In the original post, each line of each paragraph stated on a new line.
Also some lines were broken in the middle and the second part started on
a new line.

The reply where I said "too many returns" showed the way Diane's
original post it looked when it was quoted here[1]. The quoted text has
a blank line after each line of a paragraph, which the original text
didn't have.

[1] Maybe not - I don't know how it looked on your computers.


Sure you do. I told you it looks like this. It looks
just like this in my browser.

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%40fx30.iad%3E

This is the message text from Diane, as it comes into
my computer and is captured by a packet sniffer. In
other words, my news client has not had a chance to
interpret it.

Not even their' fix it' fix the problems. Couldn't remove it either off my \r\n
computer.\r\n
I believe it started with one of their updates so I'm afraid using it again \r\n
with this new one.\r\n
Hubby got fed up with me cursing at my pc he bought me a new computer. lol\r\n
Has that made me stop cursing, yelling at this one..heck no!\r\n
Windows 8 is a whole different learning curve & don't like it!!\r\n
Now with the problems I'm having now, this homepage issue, & don't know how\r\n
to fix it or where to go for help (but here) I'm just about to throw this \r\n
machine out the window!!\r\n
\r\n
On top of this, of all things, this new email program OEClassic, it's \r\n
newsgroup capability is\r\n
only a reader, can't post to it!! Said, maybe down the road it will be! Oh \r\n
heck!\r\n
I really don't want to use Window Live but if I'm going to want to continue \r\n
having the\r\n
newsgroups I'll have to. Unless there is another way, is there?!\r\n
Is there a way to have these newsgroups without it being attach to a email \r\n
program?\r\n
I'll be very upset if I'm told no!\r\n
I can live without my homepage but not the NGS!\r\n
\r\n
Again thanks you guys!!\r\n
\r\n
Diane\r\n

Let's take this line...

I believe it started with one of their updates so I'm afraid using it again \r\n
with this new one.\r\n

The first \r\n is added by the line wrap function. The second one is
added by Diane.

When Diane typed it, it was probably like this.

I believe it started with one of their updates so I'm afraid using it again with this new one.\r\n

On a client honoring the format=flowed header value, that
last line would render like this (flow to width of screen)

I believe it started with one of their updates so I'm
afraid using it again with this new one.

On an old news client (no flowed support), it would be one long line.
if it came from Google Groups, it would be one long line.

With the stupid combination of settings I use, a
recipient has to widen their news client window,
until it's as wide as my message was as sent. Otherwise,
the lines will be all broken up.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wqh742.gif

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support False
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed True

I should probably be setting the second one to False.
I don't remember the reason for having the settings as they are.
Maybe it had something to do with quoted text from
other messages. Not sure.

And this is my wrap length

mailnews.wraplength 1000

The default would be 72.

HTH,
Paul
  #68  
Old January 21st 14, 01:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/20/2014, Paul posted:
[1] Maybe not - I don't know how it looked on your computers.


Sure you do. I told you it looks like this. It looks
just like this in my browser.


That was you but not Char, and I should have distinguished.

But really, I was doubly careless, in that I should have added that
your screen shots looked familiar, i.e., like what I saw.

At least it was easy to remind myself of what your screen looked like:
your page was (and is) still open in a tab on my browser.

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  #69  
Old January 21st 14, 06:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:07:00 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:10:13 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:50:53 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/18/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Gene I don't understand what you mean by too many carriage returns.
I meant there were carriage returns at the end of each line of your text
instead of only at the end of each paragraph, so it made for a messy
display at my end.

My reamrk was a bit too terse :-)

Sometimes, the appearance of a person's posting,
is a function of the header directive.

This is from Diane's header.

Format=Flowed; Response

I have no idea what "Response" means. Never seen it before.

The Format Flowed thing, controls automatic formatting.
Perhaps there's an interaction between what she typed,
the header declaration, and what your news client
does in response to Format Flowed.

http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html

To see what she typed, we could do this...

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%40fx30.iad%3E

and you could compare that to how her message looks in
your news client.

It's too complicated for me to figure out. I'll
let the BlochComputeEngine work on it :-)

Perhaps you could post a tinypic.com or imageshack.us
picture of that portion of the screen ?
Does your response mean that you didn't see what Gene (and I) saw?

Actually, mine looks like the howardknight.net one. Verbatim.


Mine too, but I see that the howardknight link actually points to the wrong
post. Fortunately, A) the right post is fully quoted there, and B) her
follow-up post also exhibits the "too many CR's" attribute. So we have two
examples we can examine, with the first being worse than the second.

And the funny part is, my about:config in Thunderbird 2.0.0.24
is set to the default "false", which means my news client
should automatically format the read items. As the FAQ page
mentioned, I think the news client still has to honor
a hard return. So my client can't flow the text, because
the returns are stopping it.

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support false

I can tell there are hard returns in there. If you look
at the howardknight page, I can tell from the formatting
there, that there are hard returns. I just doesn't
bother me all that much.


Same here. It's notable, but not a big deal.

If you guys post a pic, maybe I can see what is
upsetting you :-) Maybe each return is making a
separate paragraph or something ? Like one return
is converted into two returns, and making a paragraph
break of some sort ?


You can see it in the howardknight link above, although I wouldn't say it's
upsetting me. I suspect it's not upsetting Gene, either. It's just a small
thing that makes reading a bit more difficult, that's all.


What could be happening there, is her "wrap" setting
could be at the default 72. The news client window is
opened to a value greater than 72. And then it's tempting
to hit carriage return in such a case. However, when
the message is sent, it's being wrapped on transmission
at 72. It means both a human and a machine, are
modifying the appearance of the message.


I agree that that could be happening. The OP would be able to tell us, if
he/she wanted to. What I don't understand, however, is why you think it
might be tempting to hit CR at all, given the circumstances you described
above. It wouldn't be the least bit tempting for me.

Personally, I'm a fan of using hard returns. How I do this,
is set the wrap value to 1000 (meaning, don't wrap it for me).
And I insert carriage return where ever I want to.


Thanks for that! I've sometimes wondered why your posts wrap at noticeably
fewer columns than almost everyone else's, and now I know.

  #70  
Old January 22nd 14, 04:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"DianeLeMasson" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thank you for your help.
Gene I don't understand what you mean by too many carriage returns.

As for Firefox I would like to stay away from it. I have it now on my old
Wins XP machine that has given me much grief.
No matter what I've done/tried I can not get it to work properly.
Not even their' fix it' fix the problems. Couldn't remove it either off my
computer.
I believe it started with one of their updates so I'm afraid using it
again with this new one.
Hubby got fed up with me cursing at my pc he bought me a new computer. lol
Has that made me stop cursing, yelling at this one..heck no!
Windows 8 is a whole different learning curve & don't like it!!
Now with the problems I'm having now, this homepage issue, & don't know
how
to fix it or where to go for help (but here) I'm just about to throw this
machine out the window!!

On top of this, of all things, this new email program OEClassic, it's
newsgroup capability is
only a reader, can't post to it!! Said, maybe down the road it will be!
Oh heck!
I really don't want to use Window Live but if I'm going to want to
continue having the
newsgroups I'll have to. Unless there is another way, is there?!
Is there a way to have these newsgroups without it being attach to a email
program?
I'll be very upset if I'm told no!
I can live without my homepage but not the NGS!

Again thanks you guys!!

Diane





"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...
On 1/18/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Hello Everyone


Still not much better so I haven't been on my computer much, let alone
reading those complicated computer books to learn Wins 8.


Reading through the many pages of infor I printed from all your help
with my issue I found (thanks Big Al) where those .dbx files


for OEClassic are stored. Plus other things I was curious to find.


Big Al your explanation where and how to use 'search' was extremely
helpful, though it didn't show the exact 'path' of where those .dbx
files (for oeclassic) were but it gave me a direction to do so. So doing
a happy dance right now!!


Still digesting the other information you all have provided me, when I
feel better I'm sure I'll have other questions.


As for the Import/Export I see now how I confused/mixed them up. I
should know better, to think before I write.


And thanks for pointing that out to me!


Okay got another problem or least think I do. Don't know if it has
anything to do with this but happened after it was done.


I had Windows 8, hubby updated to 8.1. My browser is IE 11. My homepage
is My Yahoo.


Since this update my homepage will not load completely, only some of it.
I've refresh it many times still won't complete.


I wouldn't care so much but I've personalized it to the way I want it.
Don't have the foggiest idea why going to Wins 8.1


would effect just my homepage. Any ideas? However IE does load
completely.


(Too many carriage returns!)

What I would do is to look at that page in a different browser, as a
debugging technique. I.e., see how it acts there. It could just be that
your homepage site is temporarily messed up, which a second browser would
tend to verify - or not.

That *does* require installing another browser, which might not be your
idea of fun :-)

The extra ones I have are
Firefox http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
Chrome https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
Safari (see remark)

Actually, IE is an extra, since I use Firefox.

Safari remark: the other browsers make it easy (well, possible) to find
their websites; Safari doesn't, and Apple's web site doesn't either. I
gave up.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)



Hi
Once more thank you for your help.
Gene I see by what you mean about the carriage returns by my post on 1/18.
As far as I can recall I didn't hit 'enter' to make those spaces for every
sentence so I have no idea why it did.
Then with post dated 1/19 my paragraphs appear normal, to me anyway. I also
have no idea how or why my messages appear as you all see them. I do at
times hit (CR) to begin a new sentence on a new line if I'm talking about
something different. As you will see I'm trying not to hit (CR) as I type
now. We see how that'll look like on a return post. How my messages appear
to everyone is there something wrong, something I need to look into and fix?
And how?

Still haven't been able to fix my, My Yahoo homepage that won't completely
load as it should in Wins 8.1. And I can't find their email to contact them.
So darn frustrating!!

Now for the biggy! Determining which email program to use, one that has
full NG capability. NOT just a reader!! So disappointed to find out
OEClassic NG is just that, a reader. They say they will make it so people
can post in it but that'll be down the road, sorry don't want to wait for
whatever. Silver Slimer mentioned 2 programs, TB and Opera Mail. However,
said TB is a resource hog like FF. And do I know that!! I know people who
use TB & love it, never any problems. At least I was able to see what it
looks like & how it function. But if anything like how FF behaved I'm not to
sure about it, if I want to deal with that nightmare again. I have no idea
about Opera Mail, don't know anyone who has it. I did some checking saw some
pictures of it, looks okay. Couldn't find much details though. If I were to
go towards Opera Mail I would have to download their browser also right? Can
someone please give me their opinion on that? On both if you don't mind. I
need to make a decision soon for I am suppose to give my old pc to my grand
daughter, she's about to hand me my head if I don't fairly soon.
Another question if you don't mind. Lets say I chose one don't like it &
want to try the other how difficult would it be to delete it? Is there a
chance it could mess up my new computer if I do that?
I also like to say since this doesn't pertain to this NG topic, don't want
to get anyone mad, to contact me through email instead.
Thanks everyone!

Diane



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Old January 22nd 14, 06:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:35:55 -0500, DianeLeMasson
wrote:

Now for the biggy! Determining which email program to use, one that has
full NG capability. NOT just a reader!! So disappointed to find out
OEClassic NG is just that, a reader. They say they will make it so people
can post in it but that'll be down the road, sorry don't want to wait for
whatever. Silver Slimer mentioned 2 programs, TB and Opera Mail. However,
said TB is a resource hog like FF. And do I know that!! I know people who
use TB & love it, never any problems. At least I was able to see what it
looks like & how it function. But if anything like how FF behaved I'm
not to
sure about it, if I want to deal with that nightmare again. I have no
idea
about Opera Mail, don't know anyone who has it. I did some checking saw
some
pictures of it, looks okay. Couldn't find much details though. If I were
to
go towards Opera Mail I would have to download their browser also right?
Can
someone please give me their opinion on that? On both if you don't
mind. I
need to make a decision soon for I am suppose to give my old pc to my
grand
daughter, she's about to hand me my head if I don't fairly soon.
Another question if you don't mind. Lets say I chose one don't like it &
want to try the other how difficult would it be to delete it? Is there a
chance it could mess up my new computer if I do that?
I also like to say since this doesn't pertain to this NG topic, don't
want
to get anyone mad, to contact me through email instead.
Thanks everyone!


I'm using Opera Mail myself and have gotten used to it since migrating
from Thunderbird. It loads fast, uses a modest amount of resources and the
filters work correctly (unlike Thunderbird). In fact, it gives you a
larger amount of default filtering options than Thunderbird does which I
believe is essential if you want to remove cross-posted articles from your
favourite newsgroup. The only problem I found with it is a complete lack
of plugins. This is necessary for me as I would love to have the option of
using Enigmail + GnuPG to encrypt my email but it's not a must-have
feature considering that absolutely no one I communicate with bothers to
encrypt their communications.
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"However powerful and reliable Linux is, when it comes to user interaction
(Such as the desktop) it's like having a washing machine with 100's of
different wash cycles, the manual printed in Arabic and the sequence to
set the thing going has to be entered manually in precisely the right
order." - Desk Rabbit
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Old January 22nd 14, 08:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/22/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Hi
Once more thank you for your help.
Gene I see by what you mean about the carriage returns by my post on
1/18.
As far as I can recall I didn't hit 'enter' to make those spaces for
every sentence so I have no idea why it did.


As far as I can tell, my remarks might be bogus :-)

It seems that I've complained and others have complained about similar
things before, but it seems to end up being software related, not user
related.

So I hereby apologize for starting a tempest in a teapot.

My current thought (and I wish I had remembered it before remarking in
the first place) is that various newsreaders deal with wordwrap in
different ways, often inserting newlines (returns, whatever) to
implement wordwrap, sometimes producing a display that's hard to read
or, on a good day, just ugly.

Then another newsreader with its own approach converts that to a
display that's even harder to read.

The above is my current understanding based on various comments in this
subthread, on what I see in various posts, and some vague memories of
mine. I'm probably wrong there too :-)

So I'm going to slink back to my cave to ponder a few universal truths
or something :-)

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Old January 22nd 14, 08:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/22/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Then with post dated 1/19 my paragraphs appear normal, to me anyway.
I also have no idea how or why my messages appear as you all see
them. I do at times hit (CR) to begin a new sentence on a new line if
I'm talking about something different.


My personal convention is to hit two CRs, so that there's a blank line
between paragraphs.

That makes it look like this, which I think is easier to read.
Of course, a single return would make it look like this :-)

Let's hope that the various newsreaders don't mess the above up too
much :-)

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Old January 22nd 14, 08:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/22/2014, DianeLeMasson posted:
Now for the biggy! Determining which email program to use, one that
has full NG capability. NOT just a reader!!


As you can see, I'm on a roll :-)

I decided separate replies were more appropriate...

Newsreaders are rather personal, so advice that is often given here is
to try several and see what you like.

I like separate programs, because I haven't much liked the newsreader
part of combined programs, including TB, which I use for e-mail.

For a separate newsreader, I seem to alternate between MesNews (this
one) and 40Tude Dialog. This is not an hourly or daily alternation:
after a year or two I get tired on one and revert to the other.

I must say that I'm not sure why the resource use of TB is a problem.
Does it really affect what your computer is doing?

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Old January 22nd 14, 08:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:38:50 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


My personal convention is to hit two CRs, so that there's a blank line
between paragraphs.



As almost all of us do.

 




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