How to Save Videos from TV News Websites

I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks

wrote:
I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks

I think those sites are notoriously hard to save, but programs such as
Jaksta Media Recorder or Windows Media Recorder could possibly do it, but
neither one is free (we're talking maybe $50 or so here). I seriously
doubt you will find a freebie for such sites as these. (Too much
protection against this)

As for where the file is stored, I believe the incoming stream on these
sites is only stored in partial file segments in the cache, which you can't
use anyways. (Not as one continuous mp4 file or whatever). If you had IE,
you could probably check for that more easily, as I think it's easier to
identify the file if its in the IE cache than the way (and file extensions)
its stored in the FF cache (at least as I recall).

Bill in Co wrote:

wrote:

I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks


I think those sites are notoriously hard to save, but programs such as
Jaksta Media Recorder or Windows Media Recorder could possibly do it, but
neither one is free (we're talking maybe $50 or so here). I seriously
doubt you will find a freebie for such sites as these. (Too much
protection against this)

As for where the file is stored, I believe the incoming stream on these
sites is only stored in partial file segments in the cache, which you can't
use anyways. (Not as one continuous mp4 file or whatever). If you had IE,
you could probably check for that more easily, as I think it's easier to
identify the file if its in the IE cache than the way (and file extensions)
its stored in the FF cache (at least as I recall).


CamStudio will capture just about anything.

Henry wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:

wrote:

I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks


I think those sites are notoriously hard to save, but programs such as
Jaksta Media Recorder or Windows Media Recorder could possibly do it,
but neither one is free (we're talking maybe $50 or so here). I
seriously doubt you will find a freebie for such sites as these.
(Too much protection against this)

As for where the file is stored, I believe the incoming stream on
these sites is only stored in partial file segments in the cache,
which you can't use anyways. (Not as one continuous mp4 file or
whatever). If you had IE, you could probably check for that more
easily, as I think it's easier to identify the file if its in the IE
cache than the way (and file extensions) its stored in the FF cache
(at least as I recall).

CamStudio will capture just about anything.

When I tested CamStudio, I got an effective frame rate of
7FPS. It may collect "keyframes" at 200Hz, but frames of
data are identical for approximately 30 frames in a row.
Dissection of the video into individual frames, allows
you to determine how it cheats.

And 7FPS isn't good enough for copying an onscreen video.
You'd need to do a lot better than that, for the method
to work worry free.

Paul

Henry wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:

wrote:

I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks


I think those sites are notoriously hard to save, but programs such as
Jaksta Media Recorder or Windows Media Recorder could possibly do it,
but neither one is free (we're talking maybe $50 or so here). I
seriously
doubt you will find a freebie for such sites as these. (Too much
protection against this)

As for where the file is stored, I believe the incoming stream on these
sites is only stored in partial file segments in the cache, which you
can't
use anyways. (Not as one continuous mp4 file or whatever). If you had
IE, you could probably check for that more easily, as I think it's easier
to
identify the file if its in the IE cache than the way (and file
extensions)
its stored in the FF cache (at least as I recall).


CamStudio will capture just about anything.

Well, maybe it might work on those sites as a real time recorder, or maybe
not so well, as Paul suggested.

But I think the other two also have the possibility of recording the video
rapidly (i.e. not in a slow real time playback mode), and in a better file
format, like mp4, but I haven't used or checked into this for quite awhile
now. Still, one could give the other two mentioned a trial (they have
trials) and find out.

BTW, I think Jaksta Media Recorder is similar to Replay Media Catcher, but
adding that last one in makes 3 suggestions (all payware), all of which have
some reviews on the net, and apparently are pretty popular.

Bill in Co wrote:
Henry wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:

wrote:

I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks

I think those sites are notoriously hard to save, but programs such as
Jaksta Media Recorder or Windows Media Recorder could possibly do it,
but neither one is free (we're talking maybe $50 or so here). I
seriously
doubt you will find a freebie for such sites as these. (Too much
protection against this)

As for where the file is stored, I believe the incoming stream on these
sites is only stored in partial file segments in the cache, which you
can't
use anyways. (Not as one continuous mp4 file or whatever). If you had
IE, you could probably check for that more easily, as I think it's easier
to
identify the file if its in the IE cache than the way (and file
extensions)
its stored in the FF cache (at least as I recall).


CamStudio will capture just about anything.

Well, maybe it might work on those sites as a real time recorder, or maybe
not so well, as Paul suggested.

But I think the other two also have the possibility of recording the video
rapidly (i.e. not in a slow real time playback mode), and in a better file
format, like mp4, but I haven't used or checked into this for quite awhile
now. Still, one could give the other two mentioned a trial (they have
trials) and find out.

BTW, I think Jaksta Media Recorder is similar to Replay Media Catcher, but
adding that last one in makes 3 suggestions (all payware), all of which have
some reviews on the net, and apparently are pretty popular.

There is FRAPS (as a screen recorder), but that is commercial.
The trial version is supposed to allow screen capture
for 30 seconds, so you can see how it works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRAPS

Notice that program has a problem with Windows 8 desktop.

"On Windows Vista and Windows 7, the desktop can be captured if
Windows Aero is enabled. Windows 8 game capture works, but not
desktop capture as of version 3.5.99."

Basically, just use an old OS :-)

Paul

On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 21:38:47 -0500, wrote:

I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks

You don't mention Real Player. I had stopped using that, but when I
dl'd a new version a year or two ago, it would record anything I played.
Even video that a local funeral home provided online, but no way to
record.

It shows the Real logo right next to the window in which the video is
playing, iirc. But wherever it is, you click on it, or right click,
and it will record. I had no trouble finding the file. I probably set
where it should be in Real's settings, and it stores them one at a time,
no hunting through a cache. .

wrote in message
...
I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

Youtube it a live
No Cache
It's not on save to drive
You Have to Recorder


More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

I have use RealPlayer on IE 8 to
Recorder TV News Websites

Thanks

You're Welcome

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Henry wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
wrote: I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV
station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.
Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????
More importantly, is there some program I can install which will
capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).
Thanks
I think those sites are notoriously hard to save, but programs such as
Jaksta Media Recorder or Windows Media Recorder could possibly do it,
but neither one is free (we're talking maybe $50 or so here). I
seriously doubt you will find a freebie for such sites as these. (Too
much protection against this)
As for where the file is stored, I believe the incoming stream on these
sites is only stored in partial file segments in the cache, which you
can't use anyways. (Not as one continuous mp4 file or whatever). If
you had IE, you could probably check for that more easily, as I think
it's easier to identify the file if its in the IE cache than the way
(and file extensions) its stored in the FF cache (at least as I recall).
CamStudio will capture just about anything.

When I tested CamStudio, I got an effective frame rate of
7FPS. It may collect "keyframes" at 200Hz, but frames of
data are identical for approximately 30 frames in a row.
Dissection of the video into individual frames, allows
you to determine how it cheats.
And 7FPS isn't good enough for copying an onscreen video.
You'd need to do a lot better than that, for the method
to work worry free.

Paul
Uncheck
Auto Adjust

Then setup

Compressor
CamStudio Lossless Codec v1.0
Quality 100
Set Key Frames Every 200 frames

Framerates
Capture Frame Every 5 millisecond
Playback Rate 200 frames/second

Check ok

"micky" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 21:38:47 -0500, wrote:
I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.
Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????
More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).
Thanks

You don't mention Real Player. I had stopped using that, but when I
dl'd a new version a year or two ago, it would record anything I played.
Even video that a local funeral home provided online, but no way to
record.

It shows the Real logo right next to the window in which the video is
playing, iirc. But wherever it is, you click on it, or right click,
and it will record. I had no trouble finding the file. I probably set
where it should be in Real's settings, and it stores them one at a time,
no hunting through a cache. .

You a 100% micky

In message , Bill in Co
writes:
wrote:
I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these

It'd be useful to know which ones; I find DownloadHelper good for many
sites (though not even all of You Tube).
[]
Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

(As others have said, they may not be, not as complete files anyway.)

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

I've sometimes had _some_ luck with StreamTransport; unfortunately I got
it some years ago, and it isn't obvious where. (I think it may actually
be a much-modified version of an old version of IE, with extras.)
[]
you could probably check for that more easily, as I think it's easier to
identify the file if its in the IE cache than the way (and file extensions)
its stored in the FF cache (at least as I recall).

Indeed - FF doesn't store extensions at all, I think! The "Cacheviewer
Continued" extension helps _somewhat_.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
- Penny Mayes, UMRA, 2014-August

In message , Hot-Text
writes:


"Paul" wrote in message
...
Henry wrote:
[]
CamStudio will capture just about anything.

When I tested CamStudio, I got an effective frame rate of
7FPS. It may collect "keyframes" at 200Hz, but frames of
[]
Paul
Uncheck
Auto Adjust

Then setup

Compressor
CamStudio Lossless Codec v1.0
Quality 100
Set Key Frames Every 200 frames

Framerates
Capture Frame Every 5 millisecond
Playback Rate 200 frames/second

Check ok


200 FPS - what are you doing, ballistics analysis or something? Doesn't
that produce huge files (even if a lot of the frames _are_ identical)?
Certainly, for news "footage", I doubt it will be more than 25 frames/50
fields (or 30/60): these days of Skype, 'phones, and general
compression, possibly a lot less. I doubt there's much material
_anywhere_ that uses over 100 FPS, even at HD/UHD/whatever'snext;
certainly for news, it's likely to be a lot less than that.

(Or is it that 200 is the only rate CamStudio does?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Enjoy life now - it has an expiration date

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:52:29 -0400, micky
wrote:

P&M

You don't mention Real Player.

For that matter, you can listen to muic or whatever with Real Player and
keep it running, and whenever there is a video window in a webbrowser,
at least Firefox, the Real logo will be there already. Just click or
right click and it starts recording. It couldnt' be better.

Well, Real could be better because it has no drop down menus and I can
never find anything, but the part where it record from off the web
couldn't be. Oh, I found it. I have version 16.0.1.18,

To check it out again, I went to the trusty funeral home page, first
time in years, and they've made the video screen full screen, about 10
times as large as it was (although the camera is so far away ou still
can't see the speaker's face) , and it may have forced off the real
logo, although I don't know how.

OKAY I WENT TO YOUTUBE AND DIDN'T SEE IT THERE EITHER.

ANY CHANCE THEY GOT RID OF THE FEATURE AND UPDATED ME WHEN I WASN'T
LOOKING?

Maybe I was supposed to start Real before starting FF? I haven't got
time to check on all the possibiities. But I would do that.

I would ask more people about this, and if necessary go to
www.oldverion.com and download every old version in the last 2 or 5
years to find the one which did this. I'd also read Real's descrition
of what enhancmeents each version brought.

I can see why some other people din't like Real's ability to record, but
in this environment, I don't see Real caring much.

It was, and probably is still, perfect.

I had stopped using that, but when I
dl'd a new version a year or two ago, it would record anything I played.
Even video that a local funeral home provided online, but no way to
record.

It shows the Real logo right next to the window in which the video is
playing, iirc. But wherever it is, you click on it, or right click,
and it will record. I had no trouble finding the file. I probably set
where it should be in Real's settings, and it stores them one at a time,
no hunting through a cache. .

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , Hot-Text
writes:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
Henry wrote:
CamStudio will capture just about anything.
When I tested CamStudio, I got an effective frame rate of
7FPS. It may collect "keyframes" at 200Hz, but frames of
Paul
Uncheck
Auto Adjust
Then setup
Compressor
CamStudio Lossless Codec v1.0
Quality 100
Set Key Frames Every 200 frames
Framerates
Capture Frame Every 5 millisecond
Playback Rate 200 frames/second
Check ok

200 FPS - what are you doing, ballistics analysis or something? Doesn't
that produce huge files (even if a lot of the frames _are_ identical)?
Certainly, for news "footage", I doubt it will be more than 25 frames/50
fields (or 30/60): these days of Skype, 'phones, and general compression,
possibly a lot less. I doubt there's much material _anywhere_ that uses
over 100 FPS, even at HD/UHD/whatever'snext; certainly for news, it's
likely to be a lot less than that.

Setup Cam To:
Region

Recode say video side it 360 px x 360 px



(Or is it that 200 is the only rate CamStudio does?)

No
but I gave you to best
rate for CamStudio
using the Region to Recode the video side

But you can set it to 1 FPS
If you like

wrote:
I'm trying to save a few videos from a TV station's website. Using XP
and Firefox (older version, 17). I have several video download
extensions installed, which work fine on Youtube, but not on these
videos. I also tried to use IE and K-Meleon. I then installed the FF
extension "Cache Viewer". Using that, I could not find the videos in
cache. I also saved the entire cache, and went thru all 200+ folders
within it, manually. The videos simply do not exist.

Where are they saved on my drive when I view them???????

More importantly, is there some program I can install which will capture
and save ANY video, regardless of it's source on the web?
(Must run on XP, and preferably be free).

Thanks


I found another toy in the screen capture side
of things (rather than doing it right and just
snagging the video file itself)...

http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/25/cap...i-afterburner/

It's MSI Afterburner, and the reviewer in that article,
claims it is almost as good as FRAPS. The only negative
it got, is not supporting a whole pile of CODECS. And
really, what I want in a capture facility, is just to
get the damn thing to capture the video. Fancy CODECS
can wait for later, in post-processing.

I expect it's going to take a good long while
to get a test environment set up. The funny part,
is the manual doesn't show the screen capture option.
Like it exists in an older version or something.

Paul