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Old March 8th 18, 06:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
HB[_3_]
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I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7.
Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to
add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but files
stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was still
there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem of not
saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I can
reinstall it fresh?


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Old March 8th 18, 07:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
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HB wrote:

I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7.
Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to
add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but files
stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was still
there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem of not
saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I can
reinstall it fresh?


Passwords are saved in an encrypted registry entry. If corrupted, the
result is not entering the correct login credentials at the server so
Outlook Express prompts for a new password. However, entering and
remembering the new login credentials won't repair the corrupted
registry entry.

https://www.google.com/search?q=outl...ber%20password

found:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...utlook-express

Use method 3.
  #3  
Old March 8th 18, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
HB wrote:

I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on
W-7.
Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to
add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but
files
stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was
still
there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem of
not
saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I
can
reinstall it fresh?


Passwords are saved in an encrypted registry entry. If corrupted, the
result is not entering the correct login credentials at the server so
Outlook Express prompts for a new password. However, entering and
remembering the new login credentials won't repair the corrupted
registry entry.

https://www.google.com/search?q=outl...ber%20password

found:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...utlook-express

Use method 3.



1. To create a new profile/identity I have to get new email accounts at
Gmail or somewhere. It wont let me use the account names I already have.
So that wont work. It doesn't explain how to use the old account's names
and passwords with a new profile in OE, even AFTER I deleted one account to
see if that would work. It didn't. Also, the info on the Tabs in EO are not
the same as in the article. There is no "Info", then "account settings"
under the File tab in OE.

2. As for the Key. I found it OK in the registry, but even following the
simple directions, I get a "Unable to save permissions. Access is denied."
I saw only 1 subkey key there though I have 4 accounts on this PC. So that
will not work either. Moot since access is denied.

The other info there was not for OE.

The "save password" is grayed out. I have the same OE software on 4
different computers and this is the only one that is grayed out and will not
save them. Googling brings up a lot of info that often doesn't work. That's
why I ask on the NGs, hoping to find someone with first hand knowledge who
tried something that worked for them.

How can everything be removed from OE so I can install a fresh uncorrupt
copy? Have any idea? That is short of doing a System Recovery.






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Old March 9th 18, 01:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Wont save passwords

HB wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
HB wrote:

I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on
W-7.
Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to
add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but
files
stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was
still
there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem of
not
saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so I
can
reinstall it fresh?


Passwords are saved in an encrypted registry entry. If corrupted, the
result is not entering the correct login credentials at the server so
Outlook Express prompts for a new password. However, entering and
remembering the new login credentials won't repair the corrupted
registry entry.

https://www.google.com/search?q=outl...ber%20password

found:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...utlook-express

Use method 3.


1. To create a new profile/identity I have to get new email accounts at
Gmail or somewhere. It wont let me use the account names I already have.
So that wont work. It doesn't explain how to use the old account's names
and passwords with a new profile in OE, even AFTER I deleted one account to
see if that would work. It didn't. Also, the info on the Tabs in EO are not
the same as in the article. There is no "Info", then "account settings"
under the File tab in OE.

2. As for the Key. I found it OK in the registry, but even following the
simple directions, I get a "Unable to save permissions. Access is denied."
I saw only 1 subkey key there though I have 4 accounts on this PC. So that
will not work either. Moot since access is denied.

The other info there was not for OE.

The "save password" is grayed out. I have the same OE software on 4
different computers and this is the only one that is grayed out and will not
save them. Googling brings up a lot of info that often doesn't work. That's
why I ask on the NGs, hoping to find someone with first hand knowledge who
tried something that worked for them.

How can everything be removed from OE so I can install a fresh uncorrupt
copy? Have any idea? That is short of doing a System Recovery.


Outlook Express profiles have nothing to do with separate e-mail
accounts. You can have many OE profiles and each could point to the
same e-mail servers doing the same logins. You have to define what
e-mail account to use within a profile. It can be the same or different
e-mail account than specified in another profile.

Besides, method 3 is about deleting the registry entry that recorded the
encrypted login credentials, not about creating new OE profiles. The MS
article mentions having to change permissions on the registry key. You
must be logged in under an admin-level account to use the registry and
change permissions on the registry keys.
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Old March 9th 18, 02:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Wont save passwords

In message , HB writes:
I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7.


Sorry, can't help with your problem, but the above interests me: I have
a friend who is fond of OE, but is under the impression (as was I) that
it won't work under 7. (There is that "OE Classic", of which the free
version is rather limited and people here thought the paid version was
flawed too, but I get the impression you aren't talking about that
anyway.) One of the reasons my friend is staying on XP (though not the
only one).

Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32
or 7-64?
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Old March 9th 18, 05:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Wont save passwords

HB wrote:
I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on
W-7. Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA
to have to add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but
files stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the
info was still there including deleted old email. And of course the
same old problem of not saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop
so I can reinstall it fresh?


Don't know, sorry.
But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on
Windows 7.


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Old March 9th 18, 05:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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On 9/3/2018 02:06, HB wrote:
I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7.
Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have to
add them every day when I check my email.


Not responding to your problem: I always type my passwords from my
brain. Maybe you have too many websites.

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Old March 9th 18, 05:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Wont save passwords

On 10/3/2018 01:07, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Don't know, sorry.
But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on
Windows 7.


Just google "outlook express windows 7"!
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=outlook+express+windows+7

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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
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不借貸! 不詐騙! 不*錢! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 不求神! 請考慮綜援
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Old March 9th 18, 05:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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On 9/3/2018 10:26, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32
or 7-64?


One simple method is to use a VM to run your license copy of WinXP.

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Old March 9th 18, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Mr. Man-wai
Chang writes:
On 10/3/2018 01:07, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Don't know, sorry.
But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on
Windows 7.


Just google "outlook express windows 7"!
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=outlook+express+windows+7

Before telling people to Google, please do it yourself, and actually
follow the links. Of the first ten hits, that search yields one or two
that point to runasxp's product, about seven that point to the "OE
Classic" product, and two or three that just tell us OE doesn't work
under 7 (which we know).

The poster to whom I was responding - and which Mr. P. is writing about
too - wrote as if he had an original version of OE (not a substitute,
replacement, or whatever), that had worked under 7 (no mention of VM
[virtual Machine] running XP, either), for some time (and was continuing
to, for that matter, just had started to prompt for password
frequently).

Our interest is in where/when he got it, or, if it's just the original
(msimn.exe?) copied from XP or earlier, whether there's something odd
about his W7 (such as maybe being 32 bit, or a pre-release candidate, or
something).

But I fear the original poster is probably no longer reading this thread
)-:.
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  #11  
Old March 9th 18, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Default Wont save passwords

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 10/3/2018 01:07, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Don't know, sorry.
But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works
on Windows 7.


Just google "outlook express windows 7"!
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=outlook+express+windows+7


Been there.
But thanks anyway.


  #12  
Old March 10th 18, 05:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
HB[_3_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
HB wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
HB wrote:

I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on
W-7.
Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA to have
to
add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but
files
stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the info was
still
there including deleted old email. And of course the same old problem
of
not
saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop so
I
can
reinstall it fresh?

Passwords are saved in an encrypted registry entry. If corrupted, the
result is not entering the correct login credentials at the server so
Outlook Express prompts for a new password. However, entering and
remembering the new login credentials won't repair the corrupted
registry entry.

https://www.google.com/search?q=outl...ber%20password

found:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...utlook-express

Use method 3.


1. To create a new profile/identity I have to get new email accounts at
Gmail or somewhere. It wont let me use the account names I already have.
So that wont work. It doesn't explain how to use the old account's names
and passwords with a new profile in OE, even AFTER I deleted one account
to
see if that would work. It didn't. Also, the info on the Tabs in EO are
not
the same as in the article. There is no "Info", then "account settings"
under the File tab in OE.

2. As for the Key. I found it OK in the registry, but even following the
simple directions, I get a "Unable to save permissions. Access is
denied."
I saw only 1 subkey key there though I have 4 accounts on this PC. So
that
will not work either. Moot since access is denied.

The other info there was not for OE.

The "save password" is grayed out. I have the same OE software on 4
different computers and this is the only one that is grayed out and will
not
save them. Googling brings up a lot of info that often doesn't work.
That's
why I ask on the NGs, hoping to find someone with first hand knowledge
who
tried something that worked for them.

How can everything be removed from OE so I can install a fresh uncorrupt
copy? Have any idea? That is short of doing a System Recovery.


Outlook Express profiles have nothing to do with separate e-mail
accounts. You can have many OE profiles and each could point to the
same e-mail servers doing the same logins. You have to define what
e-mail account to use within a profile. It can be the same or different
e-mail account than specified in another profile.


I couldn't believe what happened this morning. As mentioned I deleted one
of the email accounts because I wanted to use the same name profile. I
didn't know there was a way to direct a new one to an existing account since
I saw no way to do that. I had no idea how to switch back when it asked me
if I wanted to switch. When I opened OE not only was the deleted account
THERE, but the passwords were as well. All mail downloaded without asking
for the passwords for each one. I did nothing to make this happen. WTF?
I've been online since 1995 and something like this never happened before.
Not unless a program was uninstalled and reinstalled.


Besides, method 3 is about deleting the registry entry that recorded the
encrypted login credentials, not about creating new OE profiles. The MS
article mentions having to change permissions on the registry key. You
must be logged in under an admin-level account to use the registry and
change permissions on the registry keys.


As mention, I did that but I got an "Unable to save permissions. Access is
denied." So apparently somthing happened to make it work again, no credit to
myself.



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Old March 10th 18, 05:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
HB[_3_]
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , HB writes:
I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on W-7.


Sorry, can't help with your problem, but the above interests me: I have a
friend who is fond of OE, but is under the impression (as was I) that it
won't work under 7. (There is that "OE Classic", of which the free version
is rather limited and people here thought the paid version was flawed too,
but I get the impression you aren't talking about that anyway.) One of the
reasons my friend is staying on XP (though not the only one).

Can you tell us any more about your OE-that-works-on-7? And is it 7-32 or
7-64?


It's 7-64. It works on W-10 also. I have the free copy that a website was
giving away a few years ago. Now he charges for it. I have had no problems
with the free version. The url is https://runasxp.com/




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Old March 10th 18, 05:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
HB[_3_]
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"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
news
HB wrote:
I have a copy of Outlook Express for several years now that worked on
W-7. Then,suddenly, it would not save my passwords. It's a real PIA
to have to add them every day when I check my email.

Also, I uninstalled OE and thought that would remove the problem but
files stay hidden somwhere because when I reinstalled OE, all the
info was still there including deleted old email. And of course the
same old problem of not saving passwords.

Anyone know how I can completely remove it from my W-7 Home desktop
so I can reinstall it fresh?


Don't know, sorry.
But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on
Windows 7.


It was free at one time. Now I think it's donationware. Go he

https://runasxp.com/


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Old March 10th 18, 05:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general,alt.windows7.general
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Mr. Man-wai Chang
writes:
On 10/3/2018 01:07, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Don't know, sorry.
But I would be very interested where you got a copy of OE that works on
Windows 7.


Just google "outlook express windows 7"!
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=outlook+express+windows+7

Before telling people to Google, please do it yourself, and actually
follow the links. Of the first ten hits, that search yields one or two
that point to runasxp's product, about seven that point to the "OE
Classic" product, and two or three that just tell us OE doesn't work under
7 (which we know).

The poster to whom I was responding - and which Mr. P. is writing about
too - wrote as if he had an original version of OE (not a substitute,
replacement, or whatever), that had worked under 7 (no mention of VM
[virtual Machine] running XP, either), for some time (and was continuing
to, for that matter, just had started to prompt for password frequently).

Our interest is in where/when he got it, or, if it's just the original
(msimn.exe?) copied from XP or earlier, whether there's something odd
about his W7 (such as maybe being 32 bit, or a pre-release candidate, or
something).


Wasn't the original somehow connected to IE? There was no way as I
underatand it, that it could be moved to another computer.


But I fear the original poster is probably no longer reading this
thread )-:.
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