Saving the Recycle Bin!!

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" on Sun, 5 Nov 2017
01:35:43 +0000 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
Daniel60 on Sat, 4 Nov 2017 22:34:08
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
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(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

I doubt it. I adopted this nom-du-net back when I was right out of
university and Russian language studies.
As near as I'm able to sus out, the last time any of "my people"
were in Russia, it wasn't Russia yet. Nor Kevian. Heck the Rus
hadn't yet the Norsk country.
[]
Even if that wasn't the case, sharing -vich wouldn't imply common
ancestry (other than just having ancestors from Russian-speaking areas);
like the Scandinavian -ssen, the English -son, the Irish O', the
Scottish Mc-/Mac-, the German -ssohn, and so on, it just means "son of".

Yep - that's me - Peter the son of Philip.

When I lived in Spain I was Pedro, when I took French "Pierre",
etc, und so weiter.

tschus (Which is German)
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On 6/11/2017 2:24 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/5/2017 3:17 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
On 5/11/2017 2:05 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/4/2017 4:23 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
On 4/11/2017 2:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Snip

If you have more hard drives or partitions beyond C, you will find a
Recycle Bin for each. You will have to change the folder options to see
them. On each, select [Tools Folder Options]. Select the View tab on
the Folder Options window. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide protected
operating system files (Recommended)", confirm that choice, and select
the OK button.

When you open, for example, C:\$RECYCLE.BIN, you may see several folders
all named (again, for example) "Recycle Bin". They all have the same
contents. However, when you open each of them, the complete path and
file shown in the address area of Windows Explorer are different.

David, as I typed in reply to Paul, in Windows Explorer I see only one
"Recycle Bin" at the bottom left of that screen. Clicking it shows icons
for all 205 Files and Folders in the Recycle Bin. I cannot see how to
differentiate which files/folders are on which of my three partitions,
C:\, G:\ and H:\

If I right Click on (several of the) icons, I have the option to select
either "Restore", "Cut", "Delete" or "Properties".

See my first paragraph that you quoted.

Noted first time around, David .... but, as I don't see any "Tools"
clickable, either on the Win Explorer screen itself or by Right Clicking
after having selected one of the partitions, I cannot select the "View
tab" on the "Folder Options" screen.

Just see the Recycle Bin at the bottom of the Win Explorer screen.

On the Windows Explorer (NOT Internet Explorer)

Don't believe I've had MSIE on any personal computer since about MS DOS 5.

window for any folder
and for any drive or drive's partition, the top line is the Title Bar.
Below that is a bar with arrows and the Address Area (which shows the
path to the folder). Next are the Menu Bar and then the Tool Bar. The
Menu Bar has File, Edit, View, Tools, and Help. The Tool Bar has
buttons that can be customized.

Title Bat *Tick*
a bar with arrows and the Address Area *Tick*
Menu Bar *???*
Tool Bar *Tick*

You want the Tools menu on the Menu Bar, not anything on the Tool Bar.
The Menu Bar has "Map network drive", "Disconnect network drive", "Open
Sync Center", and "Folder options". You want "Folder options".

O.K., so under "Organize", on the "Tool Bar", I checked out "Layout" and
turned on the "Menu Bar".

Thank you, David.

Hmm!! That "Folder Options" screen looks very, very, similar to the
"Folder and Search Options" screen from the "Organize" drop down!!

Daniel

On 6/11/2017 12:11 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
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I normally "cd.." several times to get to the root directory, then "cd
C:\A", "cd C:\A\B", etc. Just so I know where I am!!

cd \

will usually get you there in one go (-: [Actually, it works even
without the space -

cd\
.]

And you don't need the C: if you're staying on the same drive
(partition): if you _want_ to go back down one level at a time (and I do
that too, quite often), you can get from C:\ to C:\A\B by just

c:\ cd A
C:\A cd B
C:\A\B

So there's my thing for the day. Thank you.

Daniel

In message , Daniel60
writes:
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Don't believe I've had MSIE on any personal computer since about MS DOS 5.
[]
Up to 98SE (and possibly Me), it was possible to completely remove IE:
the people who produced 98lite (of which the main advantage was the
ability to use the '95 shell in '98, which was less demanding [thus
quicker] and more reliable [the '98 desktop, by default, was more or
less a web page]) offered that as an option in their setup; they also
provided IEradicator for those who _only_ wanted to remove IE.

(IIRR, you had to leave a couple of DLLs if you had prog.s whose help
files/function used a certain format, if you wanted their help to work.)

From XP on, it's been virtually impossible to _remove_ IE - though you
may never have _used_ it as a browser, and may have removed all traces
of it from the desktop, start menu, and so on. (I say "as a browser"
because you will have used it, since various system functions - not
least update - used parts of it. I think even Windows Explorer uses some
of it sometimes.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive, and to do so with
some passion, some compassion, some humour, and some style. - Maya Angelou,
quoted by Annabel Nnochiri, in RT 2017/5/13-19

Daniel60 wrote:
On 6/11/2017 12:11 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
[]
I normally "cd.." several times to get to the root directory, then "cd
C:\A", "cd C:\A\B", etc. Just so I know where I am!!

cd \

will usually get you there in one go (-: [Actually, it works even
without the space -

cd\
.]

And you don't need the C: if you're staying on the same drive
(partition): if you _want_ to go back down one level at a time (and I do
that too, quite often), you can get from C:\ to C:\A\B by just

c:\ cd A
C:\A cd B
C:\A\B

So there's my thing for the day. Thank you.

Daniel

To get more help on CD, try

cd /?

For example, I discover

cd /d F:\path\to\my\stuff

allows changing away from being pointed at C: , as
well as moving to F: , all in the same command.
That method is a "stateless" way of changing directories,
as it doesn't matter where the Command Prompt was
pointing previously. Maybe that would be handy in
a script too.

To "stack" working directories, you can try

pushd /?

The converse is

popd /?

That allows you to "step away" from one area you're
working, temporarily, then come back to it later by
popping off the temporary working directory.

In Linux, all those things work too. The difference
is, Linux allows you to "juggle them like balls".
Linux allows "pushd +2" to select the second path
on the stack (the stack rotates, like the cylinders
in a revolver). "Dirs" prints out all the stacked
paths. And so on. But at least the Windows one does
enough, so you don't have to lose where you're working.
Even if it isn't a full implementation of "juggling"
like Linux.

Windows is more devious on some stuff. For example,
Linux has "grep" for finding text strings in files.
Well, as it turns out, Windows has their own version,
with different capabilities, called "findstr". For
*years* I didn't know such a thing existed. These
are the perils of mimicry.

On Unix, it was bad enough, that somebody made a
nice cheat-sheet, with five columns, showing the
equivalent operation in each shell environment. So
in case you were thinking life was simple, no,
everybody has to do something different, and
translation tables like that can be really valuable
at times. Such tables (when you can find one),
are like gold. Our fine search engines, don't make
finding such things, all that easy.

And you can see how things evolved with time. There's
no /d on the CD here. And there's also no pushd and
popd either. Apparently that came later.

http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/

Paul

On 7/11/2017 12:14 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
[]
Don't believe I've had MSIE on any personal computer since about MS
DOS 5.
[]
Up to 98SE (and possibly Me), it was possible to completely remove IE:
the people who produced 98lite

Yeap, I did run 98lite!

(of which the main advantage was the
ability to use the '95 shell in '98, which was less demanding [thus
quicker] and more reliable [the '98 desktop, by default, was more or
less a web page]) offered that as an option in their setup; they also
provided IEradicator for those who _only_ wanted to remove IE.

(IIRR, you had to leave a couple of DLLs if you had prog.s whose help
files/function used a certain format, if you wanted their help to work.)

From XP on, it's been virtually impossible to _remove_ IE - though you
may never have _used_ it as a browser, and may have removed all traces
of it from the desktop, start menu, and so on. (I say "as a browser"
because you will have used it, since various system functions - not
least update - used parts of it. I think even Windows Explorer uses some
of it sometimes.)

I am aware that the IE desktop was also used for Windows Explorer
desktop. On this Win7Pro, I don;t think I've ever had MSIE, or MSWord
for that matter!

Daniel

In message , Daniel60
writes:
On 7/11/2017 12:14 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
[]
Don't believe I've had MSIE on any personal computer since about MS
DOS 5.
[]
Up to 98SE (and possibly Me), it was possible to completely remove IE:
the people who produced 98lite

Yeap, I did run 98lite!

(of which the main
advantage was the
ability to use the '95 shell in '98, which was less demanding [thus
quicker] and more reliable [the '98 desktop, by default, was more or
less a web page]) offered that as an option in their setup; they also
provided IEradicator for those who _only_ wanted to remove IE.

(IIRR, you had to leave a couple of DLLs if you had prog.s whose help
files/function used a certain format, if you wanted their help to work.)

From XP on, it's been virtually impossible to _remove_ IE - though you
may never have _used_ it as a browser, and may have removed all traces
of it from the desktop, start menu, and so on. (I say "as a browser"
because you will have used it, since various system functions - not
least update - used parts of it. I think even Windows Explorer uses some
of it sometimes.)

I am aware that the IE desktop was also used for Windows Explorer
desktop. On this Win7Pro, I don;t think I've ever had MSIE, or MSWord
for that matter!

Daniel

I think you'll find you mean you've never _run IE as a browser_. You
will _have_ it, unless you've taken steps to remove it (and I don't just
mean shortcuts) - and you will have used it, even if you don't know.

(Come on guys - help me tell Dan what uses IE [doesn't the update
system, for example?]; 7 is not my main OS.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

They are public servants, so we will threat them rather as Flashman treats
servants. - Stephen Fry on some people's attitudo to the BBC, in Radio Times,
3-9 July 2010

Just open the recycle bin, then use the select all under edit,
then click on move to folder or move to, and then when that small window
opens, choose the folder on your cd dvd player. And then hit move.

Boom, done. You can then delete and empty all the recycle bin.
Of course yes, there is a way to put it back in the recycle bin also.
If you would want to....

On 11/2/2017 10:35 PM, Daniel60 scribbled:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel