Windows Update to IE11

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my
preferred choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other
popular ones to test my website.

--
mick

"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

"NY" wrote in message
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"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

I just installed it in my Win7HP 64 bit system and my fonts are fine in my
Live Mail.
They were fine with IE ver 10 also. Perhaps you could try reinstalling
Windows Live Mail.
Haven't checked it for speed, etc, but so far it is working fine.
--
Buffalo

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:13:08 -0700, "Buffalo" wrote:

"NY" wrote in message
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"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

I just installed it in my Win7HP 64 bit system and my fonts are fine in my
Live Mail.
They were fine with IE ver 10 also. Perhaps you could try reinstalling
Windows Live Mail.
Haven't checked it for speed, etc, but so far it is working fine.

I did the regular updates today and IEv11 was not offered as an
update? Where did you update it from? Any problem with
Favorities/Cookies or anything like that after updating? Best
reason(s) to update?

On 12/11/2013 21:38:57, wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:13:08 -0700, "Buffalo"
wrote:

"NY" wrote in message
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"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

I just installed it in my Win7HP 64 bit system and my fonts are fine in my
Live Mail.
They were fine with IE ver 10 also. Perhaps you could try reinstalling
Windows Live Mail.
Haven't checked it for speed, etc, but so far it is working fine.

I did the regular updates today and IEv11 was not offered as an
update? Where did you update it from? Any problem with
Favorities/Cookies or anything like that after updating? Best
reason(s) to update?

I have not had any regular updates today, only IE11 is listed.

--
mick

NY wrote:
"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my
preferred choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other
popular ones to test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in
the email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been
offered an upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get
installed accidentally if I install everything that is offered.
Uninstalling newer versions of IE (if I accidentally install one)
restores the non-blurry fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

No issue with font visibility here with IE9, 10, 11 in Windows Live Mail
on Win7 Pro 32 or 64 bit. WLM default fonts are Segoe UI for
Proportional and Courier New for Fixed-width. Visibility issues when
others are not experiencing them could be system related (Windows or
video driver) or corruption in either WLM or Windows.

One can hide IE11 when offered via Windows Updates.

Note:
For Win7 IE11 is being pushed as an Important Update. The current
deployment is being throttled at MSFT's end - throttling is the reason
why it is unchecked when viewed in Windows Updates. Throttling at
MSFT's end at this time does not mean throttled forever. At some point
in time in the future it **will** become a pre-checked item....and at
that time if Windows Updates is configured to 'Automatically download
and install' then IE11 will be automatically installed.

Even if IE11 is currently hid it will continue to appear again in
Windows Update with each future Internet Explorer update (Security,
Cumulative). As long as throttling is the current state on MSFT's end,
it will remain unchecked....as noted above if Windows Update is
configured to automatically install then at some point in time in the
future IE11 will be installed and automatically updated with whatever
security or cumulative update is pushed down.

If a more robust approach is necesssary to prevent IE11 from being
offered/installed - MSFT provides a toolkit to block automatic delivery
of IE11.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=40722

IE11 is applicable and only available) for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1

IE11 Blocker Toolkit is only applicable to Win7 SP1.


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:19:59 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

If a more robust approach is necesssary to prevent IE11 from being
offered/installed - MSFT provides a toolkit to block automatic delivery
of IE11.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=40722

Thanks for the link.

Myself, I use IE9.

--
-gufus
Thou Shalt NOT excessively annoy others or
allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed

John wrote:
Thank you for all of that. Useful stuff.
J.


You're welcome.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 12/11/2013 18:08:27, NY wrote:
"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry fonts,
but it is a pain to have to do it.

Windows Live Mail is not allowed anywhere near my computer and IMO
should not be used on anyone else's either :-)

--
mick

"mick" wrote in message ...

On 12/11/2013 18:08:27, NY wrote:
"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my
preferred choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other
popular ones to test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

Windows Live Mail is not allowed anywhere near my computer and IMO should
not be used on anyone else's either :-)


Why is that? I am using it and Thunderbird. What are your reasons?

--
Buffalo

On 12/11/2013 22:24:47, Buffalo wrote:
"mick" wrote in message ...

On 12/11/2013 18:08:27, NY wrote:
"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

Windows Live Mail is not allowed anywhere near my computer and IMO should
not be used on anyone else's either :-)


Why is that? I am using it and Thunderbird. What are your reasons?

Because so many people use it on newsgroups but do set it properly to
do quoting. I get fed up with replies appearing in peoples signatures.
Then there are times that personal email gets posted to newsgroups.
Much better to have a dedicated email client and a separate dedicated
news group reader.

--
mick

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:48:05 +0000, John wrote:

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:08:27 -0000, "NY" wrote:

"mick" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 15:47:37, pjp wrote:
Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?

Thanks for asking the question, I'm waiting too. FireFox is my preferred
choice of browser anyway but I do like to have the other popular ones to
test my website.

My experience is that anything newer than IE 8 causes blurry fonts in the
email-reading pane of Windows Live Mail. Each time I have been offered an
upgrade to IE, I have set it to "Hide" so it doesn't get installed
accidentally if I install everything that is offered. Uninstalling newer
versions of IE (if I accidentally install one) restores the non-blurry
fonts, but it is a pain to have to do it.

Can't you just change the font so you have a non-blurry one? Or does
IE-eleven do it with *every* font?
I wouldn't know as I've never even seen "WLM" but I'm curious.
Thanks.
J.

It just occurred to me that it might be a problem with ClearType, a
software technique to use strategic blurring to make type clearer (yeah,
I know!).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 12/11/2013 3:47 PM, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


The test version was badly broken - but they may have fixed it for the
release. I'm waiting for more comments before it goes on here.

--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

There are two theories about arguing with women. Neither one works!

"Bob Henson" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013 3:47 PM, pjp wrote:

Is it wise to allow this update or should one skip it and stick with
IE10?


The test version was badly broken - but they may have fixed it for the
release. I'm waiting for more comments before it goes on here.


I tried it a few days ago. A couple of my financial sites balked. Told me my
browser wasn't supported, or words to that effect. Removed IE 11. I'll wait
until
the world catches up!

Chris