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Reserving space on hard drive for later XP install
I bought a new two-terabyte hard drive. I want to use it as a data
drive for now. In a few weeks, I intend to upgrade to a new motherboard with a triple core CPU. At that time, I want to do a clean install of XP on the new drive. How should I partition my new drive so that I can put XP on it and boot from it later? Thank you in advance for all replies. -- Whenever I hear or think of the song "Great green gobs of greasy grimey gopher guts" I imagine my cat saying; "That sounds REALLY, REALLY good. I'll have some of that!" |
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Reserving space on hard drive for later XP install
Just partition it into 3 part: one part for the DATA you wish to put on it,
another part for the XP installation and the 3rd part for all the programs that you will be installing. When you install XP just be sure you pick the right partition. peter -- If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate or disruptive,please ignore it. If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-) "Daniel Prince" wrote in message ... I bought a new two-terabyte hard drive. I want to use it as a data drive for now. In a few weeks, I intend to upgrade to a new motherboard with a triple core CPU. At that time, I want to do a clean install of XP on the new drive. How should I partition my new drive so that I can put XP on it and boot from it later? Thank you in advance for all replies. -- Whenever I hear or think of the song "Great green gobs of greasy grimey gopher guts" I imagine my cat saying; "That sounds REALLY, REALLY good. I'll have some of that!" |
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"peter" wrote:
Just partition it into 3 part: one part for the DATA you wish to put on it, another part for the XP installation Should this part be a primary partition? How big should I make it? and the 3rd part for all the programs that you will be installing. Should the DATA and programs parts be logical volumes in an extended partition? When you install XP just be sure you pick the right partition. peter -- I don't understand why they make gourmet cat foods. I have known many cats in my life and none of them were gourmets. They were all gourmands! |
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"Daniel Prince" wrote in message
... "peter" wrote: Just partition it into 3 part: one part for the DATA you wish to put on it, another part for the XP installation Should this part be a primary partition? How big should I make it? and the 3rd part for all the programs that you will be installing. Should the DATA and programs parts be logical volumes in an extended partition? When you install XP just be sure you pick the right partition. Primary partition for OS Extended partition with logical drives for the data and apps, if desired. This is old but still useful (like me): Planning Your Partitions http://aumha.org/a/parts.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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peter wrote:
Just partition it into 3 part: one part for the DATA you wish to put on it, another part for the XP installation and the 3rd part for all the programs that you will be installing. I strongly disagree. While a separate partition for data is certainly a sound strategy, a separate partition for applications is counterproductive since anytime you install a program, countless changes will *also* be made to the OS files. Therefore, one should install programs to the C: (i.e., system) partition to keep everything together (also keep in mind that many programs are written expecting they will be installed to C. And there is the bonus that you may now easily regularly image C: (which will contain the OS plus the programs plus all the proper preferences, settings, associated registry entries, etc.) with a progam such as Acronis True Image as a means to avert disaster. |
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"Daniel Prince" wrote in message ... I bought a new two-terabyte hard drive. I want to use it as a data drive for now. In a few weeks, I intend to upgrade to a new motherboard with a triple core CPU. At that time, I want to do a clean install of XP on the new drive. How should I partition my new drive so that I can put XP on it and boot from it later? Thank you in advance for all replies. -- Whenever I hear or think of the song "Great green gobs of greasy grimey gopher guts" I imagine my cat saying; "That sounds REALLY, REALLY good. I'll have some of that!" Daniel... Loathe as I am to involve myself in one of these "how do I partition my hard drive" commentaries (since all things considered it's more often than not a sterile exercise), I feel a bit adventuresome today so here goes... In my opinion, for the overwhelming number of PC users, there's really nothing wrong or particularly limiting with living with a single-partitioned HDD. One can effectively organize his/her HDD by using folders to segregate this or that major program or division of work. One need not multi-partition one's HDD unless the user has some very special need for doing so such as installing two operating systems on one physical HDD (although let me be quick to add that except where there is no other recourse left open to the user, i.e., he or she is unable or unwilling to use separate hard drives, I'm not particularly enthusiastic about installing multiple operating systems on a single HDD.) The great advantage of having a single partition per physical HDD is its simplicity. You never encounter the situation where the free space is in the "wrong" partition nor is there ever a need to adjust partition size because one's later need for more (or less) disk space has changed. Many advocates of multi-partitioning schemes invoke the presumed advantage of separating the operating system from one's programs/data in that by doing so a significant level of security is thereby introduced so that should the operating system become corrupted and is thus dysfunctional, only the OS will need be (re)installed and all of one's programs & data will be salvaged and brought back to life. It's an illusion. In "real-life" it never seems to work out that way (especially in an XP OS environment). And time & time again we run into that common situation where the user finds this or that "partition" needs to be expanded, or shrunk, or merged, but there's no way to accomplish this without third-party disk partitioning tools and the inherent danger of data corruption/loss that can occur through the partition-manipulation process. Additionally, it's a virtual "given" that in day-to-day operations the user will invariably find it more awkward & time-consuming to access/manipulate data & programs on a multi-partitioned drive as compared with a single-partitioned HDD. Another presumed advantage of multi-partitioning one's day-to-day working HDD (again, in terms of separating the OS from programs & data) is that thereby performance is enhanced. The usual "evidence" offered by proponents of that view is that consequently "the (hard drive) heads don't need to move as much to seek data" (or some such physical "advantage" involving the hard drive's performance) and that saves time in reducing the system's need to access data/programs. While there may have been a shred of truth to that view many, many years ago during the early stages of hard drive development, it hasn't been true for modern hard drives for at least a dozen years or so. Simply stated, multi-partitioning will not result in any meaningful performance enhancement of a PC. By & large, the *real* answer to securing one's system is creating & maintaining a comprehensive backup system that the user employs on a routine & systematic basis. So that when one's day-to-day HDD fails or the system becomes unbootable and/or dysfunctional, one can effectively recover from that disaster with a minimum of time & effort. My own preference is to use a disk-cloning program such as the Casper 6 program, but there are other disk-cloning & disk-imaging programs such as Acronis True Image or Symantec's Norton Ghost program (as well as others) that will also do the job. And, of course, there are other backup strategies one can employ based on the user's needs. But establishing & maintaining a backup system is the *crucial* point for security - not multi-partitioning one's HDD either for security or thinking such will provide enhanced performance of one's system. You can, of course, organize your HDD any way you want, but you could just as easily have a single place called a "folder" as have a single place called a "partition" in which to store or segregate your programs & data. When all is said & done these multi-partitioning schemes have as their basic objective a kind of assumed safety net. For the most part there's the notion that separating the OS from programs & applications as well as user-created data affords a significantly greater degree of security in the event of some catastrophic event affecting the PC. In most cases it's a false sense of security. Anyway, one should think hard & long before multi-partitioning their HDD. And should one conclude that in their particular circumstances multi-partitioning their HDD is the most desirable course of action in their particular circumstances, then they should go ahead and partition away. But even if *you* do - I trust you will establish and use on a routine basis a backup system that meets your particular needs.That, in my opinion, should be *your* crucial objective. Just one final note... Should you finally decide to multi-partition your new HDD, take Daave's advice re installing your programs/applications in the boot/system partition (presumably the partition that will bear the C: drive letter assignment). Do not create a separate partition solely to house your programs/applications. Anna |
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Reserving space on hard drive for later XP install
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:26:58 -0400, "Anna" wrote:
"Daniel Prince" wrote in message ... I bought a new two-terabyte hard drive. I want to use it as a data drive for now. In a few weeks, I intend to upgrade to a new motherboard with a triple core CPU. At that time, I want to do a clean install of XP on the new drive. How should I partition my new drive so that I can put XP on it and boot from it later? Thank you in advance for all replies. -- Whenever I hear or think of the song "Great green gobs of greasy grimey gopher guts" I imagine my cat saying; "That sounds REALLY, REALLY good. I'll have some of that!" Daniel... Loathe as I am to involve myself in one of these "how do I partition my hard drive" commentaries (since all things considered it's more often than not a sterile exercise), I feel a bit adventuresome today so here goes... Anna, you are much more wordy than I am, but I agree almost completely with what you say below. Thank you for taking away the need for me reply and say much the same thing. I'll just add one thing. For anyone who wants to read it, here's an article I wrote on the subject of partitioning (saying many of the same things): "Understanding Disk Partitioning" at http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326 In my opinion, for the overwhelming number of PC users, there's really nothing wrong or particularly limiting with living with a single-partitioned HDD. One can effectively organize his/her HDD by using folders to segregate this or that major program or division of work. One need not multi-partition one's HDD unless the user has some very special need for doing so such as installing two operating systems on one physical HDD (although let me be quick to add that except where there is no other recourse left open to the user, i.e., he or she is unable or unwilling to use separate hard drives, I'm not particularly enthusiastic about installing multiple operating systems on a single HDD.) The great advantage of having a single partition per physical HDD is its simplicity. You never encounter the situation where the free space is in the "wrong" partition nor is there ever a need to adjust partition size because one's later need for more (or less) disk space has changed. Many advocates of multi-partitioning schemes invoke the presumed advantage of separating the operating system from one's programs/data in that by doing so a significant level of security is thereby introduced so that should the operating system become corrupted and is thus dysfunctional, only the OS will need be (re)installed and all of one's programs & data will be salvaged and brought back to life. It's an illusion. In "real-life" it never seems to work out that way (especially in an XP OS environment). And time & time again we run into that common situation where the user finds this or that "partition" needs to be expanded, or shrunk, or merged, but there's no way to accomplish this without third-party disk partitioning tools and the inherent danger of data corruption/loss that can occur through the partition-manipulation process. Additionally, it's a virtual "given" that in day-to-day operations the user will invariably find it more awkward & time-consuming to access/manipulate data & programs on a multi-partitioned drive as compared with a single-partitioned HDD. Another presumed advantage of multi-partitioning one's day-to-day working HDD (again, in terms of separating the OS from programs & data) is that thereby performance is enhanced. The usual "evidence" offered by proponents of that view is that consequently "the (hard drive) heads don't need to move as much to seek data" (or some such physical "advantage" involving the hard drive's performance) and that saves time in reducing the system's need to access data/programs. While there may have been a shred of truth to that view many, many years ago during the early stages of hard drive development, it hasn't been true for modern hard drives for at least a dozen years or so. Simply stated, multi-partitioning will not result in any meaningful performance enhancement of a PC. By & large, the *real* answer to securing one's system is creating & maintaining a comprehensive backup system that the user employs on a routine & systematic basis. So that when one's day-to-day HDD fails or the system becomes unbootable and/or dysfunctional, one can effectively recover from that disaster with a minimum of time & effort. My own preference is to use a disk-cloning program such as the Casper 6 program, but there are other disk-cloning & disk-imaging programs such as Acronis True Image or Symantec's Norton Ghost program (as well as others) that will also do the job. And, of course, there are other backup strategies one can employ based on the user's needs. But establishing & maintaining a backup system is the *crucial* point for security - not multi-partitioning one's HDD either for security or thinking such will provide enhanced performance of one's system. You can, of course, organize your HDD any way you want, but you could just as easily have a single place called a "folder" as have a single place called a "partition" in which to store or segregate your programs & data. When all is said & done these multi-partitioning schemes have as their basic objective a kind of assumed safety net. For the most part there's the notion that separating the OS from programs & applications as well as user-created data affords a significantly greater degree of security in the event of some catastrophic event affecting the PC. In most cases it's a false sense of security. Anyway, one should think hard & long before multi-partitioning their HDD. And should one conclude that in their particular circumstances multi-partitioning their HDD is the most desirable course of action in their particular circumstances, then they should go ahead and partition away. But even if *you* do - I trust you will establish and use on a routine basis a backup system that meets your particular needs.That, in my opinion, should be *your* crucial objective. Just one final note... Should you finally decide to multi-partition your new HDD, take Daave's advice re installing your programs/applications in the boot/system partition (presumably the partition that will bear the C: drive letter assignment). Do not create a separate partition solely to house your programs/applications. Anna -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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