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Old December 8th 05, 03:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Mark Smith wrote:

Why do you assume I don't? There you go again displaying your personality
problems. Try www.psychology.com. Click on the self-help link.



done it and its all b/s.
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  #32  
Old December 8th 05, 03:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message i am simply
highlighting the flaws in the
story. It is incredible! Have you had an instance of plugging anything
to a USB port that triggered a re-activation?


No, you are misrepresenting my story to convince any one who will listen to
your ramblings that I am a liar. Actually, right after the sentence about
the USB connection, I stated "Before that I switched HDD's around and put in
a new cd drive."

And nowhere did I say the camera caused the activation.I said that is why I
rebooted. Get it straight. But the pop up had said "hardware change" so I
sent out another post asking if anyone else had this happen when they
plugged in a USB device. This was the first time in years of using USB
devices this has ever happened to me. I am sure it was specific to this
camera.


We always advice people to disconnect everything from the system when
installing an OS. This includes cameras, printers, scanners etc. The
only thing that is attached is a keyboard and a mouse.


Oh I see, so you admit that there could be a problem with these devices and
the OS when installing. Now you are speaking out of both sides of your
mouth. You say my story sounded incredible, but right here you say you tell
people not to have the devices plugged in.

And you are wrong anyway. You most certainly should have the devices plugged
up so XP can go ahead and install them. It is easier and faster. And what
the hell do you think happens when you plug in the device? The OS tries to
install it anyway.

Man, I am not wasting anymore time on you. I think people can see you for
what you are. A fruit loop.


  #33  
Old December 8th 05, 03:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

I never said the camera caused the activation!!!!!!! What is wrong with you
people? I said that is why I rebooted!! I also said right after that that I
switched around two HDD's and put in a new cdrom. What post were you guys
reading?

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of different
computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to either reboot or
reactivate a computer, will be the first time that I have seen this
phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with it and
get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was
fast and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't
know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw
it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes.
When she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She
explained that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so
I had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to
go through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to
enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says
found new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I
do the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you
that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if
you are going to build your own computer.








  #34  
Old December 8th 05, 03:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Mark Smith wrote:

"kurttrail" wrote in message
...

Mark Smith wrote:

Many people use the "Corp Edition" to bypass PA problems, even though they
own a legit copy.



Wait a minute. You telling me if I have XP Pro I don't have to fool with
this activation?



Using a "volume license" may avert some of the issues related
to activation but it also opens the door to other ones. Use of
volume licenses should be limited to sites where they belong,
such as the business with an IT staff to roll out the updates
and patches. For the average home user to attempt updates whilst
using Windows XP on a volume license would not work well without
the person having the knowledge of an IT to maintain it or access
to an IT who is supporting the machine under the license. YMMV on
this idea.
  #35  
Old December 8th 05, 03:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message i am simply
highlighting the flaws in the
story. It is incredible! Have you had an instance of plugging anything
to a USB port that triggered a re-activation?


No, you are misrepresenting my story to convince any one who will listen to
your ramblings that I am a liar. Actually, right after the sentence about
the USB connection, I stated "Before that I switched HDD's around and put in
a new cd drive."

And nowhere did I say the camera caused the activation.I said that is why I
rebooted. Get it straight. But the pop up had said "hardware change" so I
sent out another post asking if anyone else had this happen when they
plugged in a USB device. This was the first time in years of using USB
devices this has ever happened to me. I am sure it was specific to this
camera.


We always advice people to disconnect everything from the system when
installing an OS. This includes cameras, printers, scanners etc. The
only thing that is attached is a keyboard and a mouse.


Oh I see, so you admit that there could be a problem with these devices and
the OS when installing. Now you are speaking out of both sides of your
mouth. You say my story sounded incredible, but right here you say you tell
people not to have the devices plugged in.

And you are wrong anyway. You most certainly should have the devices plugged
up so XP can go ahead and install them. It is easier and faster. And what
the hell do you think happens when you plug in the device? The OS tries to
install it anyway.

Man, I am not wasting anymore time on you. I think people can see you for
what you are. A fruit loop.



  #36  
Old December 8th 05, 03:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message

I am retired now after 40 years service with a top university in

London. I am an emeritus professor of Computing and Artificial
Intelligence.


LMAO!!! Now who has nothing better to do?

Ok, if you say so, I guess that makes it true. Bye bye.


  #37  
Old December 8th 05, 03:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message
...


I am retired now after 40 years service with a top university in
London. I am an emeritus professor of Computing and Artificial
Intelligence.

I immediately followed up my post with the correct information. Why would I
do that if I were lying? Why would I correct myself? You would not even have
known this if I had not told you. Think about it Professor.

BTW, my wife has the cybershots connected to the laptop computer right now
as we speak. But I am probably lying about this because I have nothing
better to do.

The game is on. Good night.


  #38  
Old December 8th 05, 03:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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ANONYMOUS wrote:


Alias wrote:

According to your links, the OP shouldn't have had to activate. Can you
explain why he had to?




You don't know whether he has a genuine OS. Just because he said so
does not prove anything!.


Oh, and if he had a cracked OS, not a genuine one, he would never have
had to activate. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Cody
  #39  
Old December 8th 05, 03:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Your very first post.

I am just telling you that plugging in a USB camera should NOT be the cause
of a reboot or a reactivation. If you know this, the information you posted
was extraneous and not pertinent to what occurred with your system, and
should not even have been included with the description of your experience.
By the end of your first post you turned to ranting.

BTW, the time you took with only your first post would have been well spent
by just reactivating your operating system. You have spent well over ten
times that amount of time now!

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
I never said the camera caused the activation!!!!!!! What is wrong with you
people? I said that is why I rebooted!! I also said right after that that I
switched around two HDD's and put in a new cdrom. What post were you guys
reading?

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of different
computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to either reboot or
reactivate a computer, will be the first time that I have seen this
phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with it and
get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was
fast and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before
the effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't
know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw
it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes.
When she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She
explained that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so
I had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have
to go through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to
enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says
found new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go
through this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn
sure I do the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you
that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if
you are going to build your own computer.










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Old December 8th 05, 03:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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"Alias" wrote in message
...
Alias wrote:


Oh, and if he had a cracked OS, not a genuine one, he would never have had
to activate. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


Man you're good. I never thought of that one.

Got to go watch the game. CU.


  #41  
Old December 8th 05, 03:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Mark Smith wrote:



Oh I see, so you admit that there could be a problem with these devices and
the OS when installing. Now you are speaking out of both sides of your
mouth. You say my story sounded incredible, but right here you say you tell
people not to have the devices plugged in.


When you are installing an OS, it is wise to disconnect most external
devices to speed up installation; otherwise, installation will try
finding the right drivers and sometimes fails if the device is new.
BELKIN is a classic example whose devices have not passed MS
compatibility tests but we still install them AFTER the OS is up and
running.

And you are wrong anyway. You most certainly should have the devices plugged
up so XP can go ahead and install them. It is easier and faster. And what
the hell do you think happens when you plug in the device? The OS tries to
install it anyway.


It is not easier and faster as you say. I currently support about 300
PCs for the university and take it from me that it is faster and easier
to connect after the OS is running.


Man, I am not wasting anymore time on you. I think people can see you for
what you are. A fruit loop.


As you wish. Just for interest sake what does a fruit loop means? WE
don't have that word in the UK. Is it something bad to be labelled?
  #42  
Old December 8th 05, 03:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Mark Smith wrote:

"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message i am simply
highlighting the flaws in the

story. It is incredible! Have you had an instance of plugging anything
to a USB port that triggered a re-activation?



No, you are misrepresenting my story to convince any one who will listen to
your ramblings that I am a liar. Actually, right after the sentence about
the USB connection, I stated "Before that I switched HDD's around and put in
a new cd drive."

And nowhere did I say the camera caused the activation.I said that is why I
rebooted. Get it straight. But the pop up had said "hardware change" so I
sent out another post asking if anyone else had this happen when they
plugged in a USB device. This was the first time in years of using USB
devices this has ever happened to me. I am sure it was specific to this
camera.



We always advice people to disconnect everything from the system when
installing an OS. This includes cameras, printers, scanners etc. The
only thing that is attached is a keyboard and a mouse.



Oh I see, so you admit that there could be a problem with these devices and
the OS when installing. Now you are speaking out of both sides of your
mouth. You say my story sounded incredible, but right here you say you tell
people not to have the devices plugged in.

And you are wrong anyway. You most certainly should have the devices plugged
up so XP can go ahead and install them. It is easier and faster. And what
the hell do you think happens when you plug in the device? The OS tries to
install it anyway.

Man, I am not wasting anymore time on you. I think people can see you for
what you are. A fruit loop.



Actually, if you clean install XP SP1, followed by SP 2, then updates,
then motherboard drivers, video card, audio card drivers, then programs,
and *then* devices like printers, cameras, etc., you're much better off.
Works for me every time anyway. What you did, however, was different and
the sum total of what you changed probably triggered it. What I am
surprised at is you couldn't activate online without having to put any
numbers in. Every time I have had to activate due to hardware change, I
click on the bubble, it does its thing, and I'm activated, no numbers
involved.

Alias
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Old December 8th 05, 03:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Alias wrote:


Oh, and if he had a cracked OS, not a genuine one, he would never have
had to activate. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.



Done it. Cracked OS would probably not work on his system considering
he has PnP requiring re-activation! This says it all!
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Old December 8th 05, 03:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Mark Smith wrote:

I immediately followed up my post with the correct information. Why would I
do that if I were lying? Why would I correct myself? You would not even have
known this if I had not told you. Think about it Professor.


You are not lying. You are just economic with the truth! I don't blame
you.

BTW, my wife has the cybershots connected to the laptop computer right now
as we speak. But I am probably lying about this because I have nothing
better to do.


Right now you are quite busy arguing with me so you do have something
to do. Again, I don't think you are lying about what your wife is doing
right now. Perhaps it is her hobby and she must be better at it! Why
are you introducing her in our arguments? She is a completely innocent
person and I don't want her to get involved.

Now you are back with cybershot then? What happened to that Mercury
S-550v?



The game is on. Good night.



good night and have sweet dreams (not nightmares!).
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Old December 8th 05, 03:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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ANONYMOUS wrote:


Alias wrote:


Oh, and if he had a cracked OS, not a genuine one, he would never have
had to activate. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.




Done it. Cracked OS would probably not work on his system considering
he has PnP requiring re-activation! This says it all!


Horsepucky.

Alias
 




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