Windows Update Assistant

Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
...." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

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Not a professional opinion unless specified.

On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803. It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install Major
OR Minor updates.

On 5/4/2018 8:02 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803.Â* It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install Major
OR Minor updates.

Thanks, I still have a complaint ...

There was a 2018-04 Cumulative Update in settings but not in assistant
.... is 2018-04 the same as 1803? There wasn't a 2018-03 in settings

--
dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/
Not a professional opinion unless specified.

On 5/4/2018 8:02 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803.Â* It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install Major
OR Minor updates.

Version is still 1709 after both settings and assistant

another computer's version, updated from a MS link, is 1803

--
dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/
Not a professional opinion unless specified.

On 5/4/2018 8:26 PM, dale wrote:
On 5/4/2018 8:02 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803.Â* It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install
Major OR Minor updates.

Version is still 1709 after both settings and assistant

another computer's version, updated from a MS link, is 1803


went to

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

like I did on other computer

now if I go to "about" in settings it reflects Version 1803

got the link on this group
Message-ID:

now I have to monitor this groups for my updates instead of the
assistant or going to update settings, am I the only one?


--
dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/
Not a professional opinion unless specified.

dale wrote:
On 5/4/2018 8:02 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803. It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install
Major OR Minor updates.

Thanks, I still have a complaint ...

There was a 2018-04 Cumulative Update in settings but not in assistant
... is 2018-04 the same as 1803? There wasn't a 2018-03 in settings


2018-04 would be the Patch Tuesday cumulative update. Those
are monthly numbers.

An Upgrade assistant is changing the release of the OS
(from 16299 to 17134). Once the release changes, Windows
Update re-examines the pending updates and finds there
are none for 17134. The first one for 17134 will show up
on May 8, 2018 and be the first Patch Tuesday opportunity
for the 17134 OS. Usually what happens, is bugs detected
too late after RTM, or perhaps driver files or the like,
a slug of them come out after the Upgrade is released.
So my wild guess would be, if you managed to install 17134
("1803") now, it'll be getting its first patch next week.
And then it will become 17134.xxx and have a higher number
on the end than previously.

*******

I installed the Upgrade on my Win10RLS disk from the ISO9660
file. It's a file type you can feed to a DVD burning program
like Imgburn, and make a bootable media. To do the Upgrade Install
on an existing installation of Windows 10, you *don't* need
a bootable DVD, and you don't even need to burn the DVD.
The ISO9660 file, once downloaded, you can right-click and
select "Mount" and you will see a virtual DVD drive appear
in My Computer storage window. Executing "setup.exe" off the
virtual DVD disc, starts the Upgrade install process.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...-iso-file.html

So that article shows how to use MediaCreationTool to make
media for another machine. And that gives the materials
for an upgrade install from a DVD version.

The DVD discs come as two items. There is a disc for 32-bit
OSes. There is a disc for 64-bit OSes. There are many
SKUs on the same DVD, so both Home and Pro would be
on the same 64-bit DVD for example. What should not
be on the disc, is an Enterprise or Server edition
(as they come from a different department at Microsoft).

You can check the System control panel, and if it says the
OS is 64-bit, that's how you know. A 32-bit OS, the System
control panel probably doesn't have a notation. And unfortunately,
I don't think the "winver" command includes a field to indicate
"bitness". So you still have to use the legacy System control
panel. In Cortana, you could type "control" to cause the legacy
control panel interface to appear, and you can get to the
System control panel there after switching to "small icons".
But I only need to include this info, if you didn't install
the previous OS yourself, and somebody neglected to tell
you what they did to the machine. 64-bit OSes are generally
more common than 32-bit.

These would be the US English version of the DVD images (ISO9660 files).
I used the first one, to install my Upgrade on the Win10RLS machine.
The second disc will be used to upgrade a Virtual Machine setup
when the time comes.

Win10_1803_English_x64.iso
4,692,365,312 bytes
SHA1: 08FBB24627FA768F869C09F44C5D6C1E53A57A6F

Win10_1803_English_x32.iso
3,389,732,864 bytes
SHA1: 3F2063B7419675E98C8DF82BC0607BBB1CE298BB


Paul

On Sat, 05 May 2018 00:03:21 -0400, Paul
wrote:


You can check the System control panel, and if it says the
OS is 64-bit, that's how you know. A 32-bit OS, the System
control panel probably doesn't have a notation.

Control Panel System will indicate 64-bit or 32-bit.

And if you have Speccy installed the first line of delail under
"Operating System" will display either 64-bit or 32-bit.


And unfortunately,
I don't think the "winver" command includes a field to indicate
"bitness".

Sadly, that is correct.

On 5/5/2018 1:02 AM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803.Â* It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install Major
OR Minor updates.

I recently upgraded to 1709, but it has not offered any more so far.

Martin Edwards wrote:

I recently upgraded to 1709, but it has not offered any more so far.

I think you need a newer version of the update assistant in order to get
1803. When I downloaded the assistant very soon after 1803 was let
loose, I got given a second copy of

Windows10Upgrade9252.exe

which I had already downloaded last autumn for 1709, and which said I
was already up to date.

A few minutes later I downloaded again and got given

Windows10Upgrade28084.exe

Which did upgrade me from 1709 to 1803.

Andy Burns wrote in news:fl5e2dFhq9iU1
@mid.individual.net:

Martin Edwards wrote:

I recently upgraded to 1709, but it has not offered any more so far.

I think you need a newer version of the update assistant in order to get
1803. When I downloaded the assistant very soon after 1803 was let
loose, I got given a second copy of

Windows10Upgrade9252.exe

which I had already downloaded last autumn for 1709, and which said I
was already up to date.

A few minutes later I downloaded again and got given

Windows10Upgrade28084.exe

Which did upgrade me from 1709 to 1803.



So, let me 'test my understanding'.

I'm sitting here with Version 1709, build 16299.371, per winver. I have
been at 1709 for quite a while. View installed update history shows that
the last Cumulative Update I got was

2018-04 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64-based Systems
(KB4093112), Successfully installed on 4/12/2018

I've had other Security Updates for Office, Excel, and Adobe, all also
installed on 4/12/2018.

I check SettingsUpdate & SecurityWindows Update everytime I start my
machine. It has always reported "Your device is up to date. Last checked:
Today, xx:xx AM/PM"

I don't click "Check for updates"; I've always let them come to me. I
don't like to ask for trouble.

Now, it sounds like from what you've experienced, some of us may have
manually update our Update Assistant?

Or, maybe I should just click "Check for updates".

Martin Edwards wrote:
On 5/5/2018 1:02 AM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 5/4/2018 6:54 PM, dale wrote:
Just installed this app. When I run it it says "Thank you 'something'
..." and there is only an EXIT button

if I go to update in settings I found many updates available.

just complainin'

Unless I'm mistaken the Update Assistant is used to migrate to the
latest main version, like 1803. It ignores minor updates that are
available.

Like you have seen the settings/update menu is designed to install
Major OR Minor updates.

I recently upgraded to 1709, but it has not offered any more so far.

If you're in a big hurry, first check the top level of C: .

Do you have C:\Windows.old folder ?

If so, that prevents 1803 from coming in. The system automatically
deletes C:\Windows.old after ten days. The folder is kept that long,
in case the user wants to "revert" to the previous OS.

You can use cleanmgr.exe to "remove the previous OS", which
deletes the contents of C:\Windows.old, leaving just
the 1709 C:\Windows. Then, when 1803 comes in, 1709 will
end up in C:\Windows.old while 1803 will be in C:\Windows.

When I installed 1803 on my machine using the DVD image,
I cleaned out C:\Windows.old about ten minutes after the
desktop came out. It's just one of my little "ceremonies"
for this stuff. I can do that, because I had a *backup* of
C: from before the upgrade started, and if there was
any sort of problem with the 1803 Upgrade, I'd just
restore from backup.

*******

There are registry settings that can block Upgrades.
(There's probably a GPEdit policy on Pro to block it.)

You can also cause a problem if you Revert an installed
OS, and then the installer logic will refuse (temporarily)
to install a later OS.

And at least some of the registry entries related to
this, are a smoke screen. Don't expect simple single
entries for control.

Paul

Boris wrote:

I check SettingsUpdate & SecurityWindows Update everytime I start my
machine. It has always reported "Your device is up to date. Last checked:
Today, xx:xx AM/PM"

I don't click "Check for updates"; I've always let them come to me. I
don't like to ask for trouble.

Now, it sounds like from what you've experienced, some of us may have
manually update our Update Assistant?

Sorry, I thought you were wanting 1803 'early'? If so you won't get it
the way you're checking for updates inside settings, you'll need the
newer assistant, if you're happy to wait until it trickles out to you
(might take days, might take months) then you can stay as you are.

On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:55:20 -0400, Paul wrote:

If you're in a big hurry, first check the top level of C: .

Do you have C:\Windows.old folder ?

If so, that prevents 1803 from coming in.

Hmm, if only a person could simply create a folder called Windows.old in
order to delay or prevent unwanted updates, but it's probably not that
easy. :-)

On 5/5/2018 5:33 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:55:20 -0400, Paul wrote:

If you're in a big hurry, first check the top level of C: .

Do you have C:\Windows.old folder ?

If so, that prevents 1803 from coming in.

Hmm, if only a person could simply create a folder called Windows.old in
order to delay or prevent unwanted updates, but it's probably not that
easy. :-)


Thanks to all, but why does it have to be so damned complicated?

Martin Edwards wrote:
On 5/5/2018 5:33 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2018 11:55:20 -0400, Paul wrote:

If you're in a big hurry, first check the top level of C: .

Do you have C:\Windows.old folder ?

If so, that prevents 1803 from coming in.

Hmm, if only a person could simply create a folder called Windows.old in
order to delay or prevent unwanted updates, but it's probably not that
easy. :-)


Thanks to all, but why does it have to be so damned complicated?

There are 7000 software designers working on this at Microsoft.

What could go wrong ? :-)

Paul