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  #121  
Old March 17th 12, 12:27 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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In ,
Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:34:27 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In news Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:26:42 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

The last one was from Paragon (I like Paragon generally and I have
bought a lot from them). But the latest one restores a XP machine
that I had a dualboot XP and Windows 7 on it once. Now it only has
XP on it and I removed all traces of Windows 7 that I know of. But
it restores a previously working XP system and sets it up to boot
Windows 7 instead.

1. Do a restore from that image.
2. Fix the odd booting issue.
3. Create a new image that incorporates the fix from #2.
4. Delete the problematic image.

That way you can stop telling us this same story over and over.


That doesn't work Char.


No wonder you need CTRL-H. Two weeks is a long time in this group.


ROTFL... Indeed CTRL-H does come in handy. ;-)

Paragon Drive Copy v11 thinks the boot is broken
on restore (when there is nothing wrong with it) and does what it
thinks is fixing it.


If your tools don't work for you, get new (different) tools. It's not
that complicated.


Yes I do use different tools. But I bought Paragon Drive Copy v11 with a
money back guarantee. I requested a refund and I never heard back from
them. This happens a lot with me. Acronis is another backup utility that
I paid for and it never worked right either. As Acronis fails on restore
with some USB chipsets (every single version). I don't know about you,
but it gets old paying for software that you can't use. So what's the
word for the opposite of piracy? You know, one when developers sell you
something that you can't use and then run away after they got your
money?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3


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  #122  
Old March 17th 12, 01:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:27:33 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:34:27 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

Paragon Drive Copy v11 thinks the boot is broken
on restore (when there is nothing wrong with it) and does what it
thinks is fixing it.


If your tools don't work for you, get new (different) tools. It's not
that complicated.


Yes I do use different tools. But I bought Paragon Drive Copy v11 with a
money back guarantee. I requested a refund and I never heard back from
them. This happens a lot with me. Acronis is another backup utility that
I paid for and it never worked right either. As Acronis fails on restore
with some USB chipsets (every single version). I don't know about you,
but it gets old paying for software that you can't use.


I'm sure you're not alone in buying software that doesn't do what you
expected it to do, but at some point the public complaining gets old.
Just because you bought something doesn't mean you have to continue to
use it when you already know it doesn't do what you want it to do. If
you can't make it work, move on to something else. Get opinions from
other people, read reviews, take advantage of free trials, etc.

Bottom line: Be a better informed consumer.

So what's the
word for the opposite of piracy? You know, one when developers sell you
something that you can't use and then run away after they got your
money?


2%'er? You seem to have more than your share of problems.

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  #123  
Old March 17th 12, 02:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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In ,
Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:27:33 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:34:27 -0500, "BillW50"
wrote:

Paragon Drive Copy v11 thinks the boot is broken
on restore (when there is nothing wrong with it) and does what it
thinks is fixing it.

If your tools don't work for you, get new (different) tools. It's
not that complicated.


Yes I do use different tools. But I bought Paragon Drive Copy v11
with a money back guarantee. I requested a refund and I never heard
back from them. This happens a lot with me. Acronis is another
backup utility that I paid for and it never worked right either. As
Acronis fails on restore with some USB chipsets (every single
version). I don't know about you, but it gets old paying for
software that you can't use.


I'm sure you're not alone in buying software that doesn't do what you
expected it to do, but at some point the public complaining gets old.
Just because you bought something doesn't mean you have to continue to
use it when you already know it doesn't do what you want it to do. If
you can't make it work, move on to something else. Get opinions from
other people, read reviews, take advantage of free trials, etc.

Bottom line: Be a better informed consumer.


Char, I have like 12 of Paragon other products and I have been happy
with all of them until this big change. And I have been a big supporter
of them until they started this thing about they know better than you
crap. And then they totally screwed up.

Don't worry. Microsoft is in the same boat. It used to be that the
administrator was in control. Not anymore with Vista, 7, and I haven't
run 8 yet (although I downloaded it). Now Microsoft is in control and if
you don't like it, tough!

So what's the word for the opposite of piracy? You know, one when
developers sell you something that you can't use and then run away
after they got your money?


2%'er? You seem to have more than your share of problems.


We few percent push stuff to the limits. As we have too. As it is the
best way to find the limits (plus it is very productive IMHO as you know
what the limits are). Test pilots does the very same thing. I personally
believe everybody should as well. But in my experience, most people just
don't have what it takes. As some were lucky if they can stop their VCRs
time from flashing (when people had VCRs anyway ;-) ).

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3


  #124  
Old March 17th 12, 09:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:27:33 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

[]
Yes I do use different tools. But I bought Paragon Drive Copy v11 with a
money back guarantee. I requested a refund and I never heard back from

[]
I'm sure you're not alone in buying software that doesn't do what you
expected it to do, but at some point the public complaining gets old.


No, but if he bought it with some sort of guarantee they're not
honouring, that is bad and worth mentioning: that's a separate matter
from mentioning the actual fault.
[]
So what's the
word for the opposite of piracy? You know, one when developers sell you
something that you can't use and then run away after they got your
money?


2%'er? You seem to have more than your share of problems.

I rather like his concept of reverse piracy though! (My suggestion of a
name for it.) And his reply (next post) that pushing to the limits finds
them has a point he doesn't explicitly state: doing so benefits all of
us indirectly as (hopefully!) at least some of the limits/bugs they
discover are addressed in the next version.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  #125  
Old April 1st 12, 01:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Allen Drake
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:27:33 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:34:27 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In news Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:26:42 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

The last one was from Paragon (I like Paragon generally and I have
bought a lot from them). But the latest one restores a XP machine
that I had a dualboot XP and Windows 7 on it once. Now it only has
XP on it and I removed all traces of Windows 7 that I know of. But
it restores a previously working XP system and sets it up to boot
Windows 7 instead.

1. Do a restore from that image.
2. Fix the odd booting issue.
3. Create a new image that incorporates the fix from #2.
4. Delete the problematic image.

That way you can stop telling us this same story over and over.

That doesn't work Char.


No wonder you need CTRL-H. Two weeks is a long time in this group.


ROTFL... Indeed CTRL-H does come in handy. ;-)

Paragon Drive Copy v11 thinks the boot is broken
on restore (when there is nothing wrong with it) and does what it
thinks is fixing it.


If your tools don't work for you, get new (different) tools. It's not
that complicated.


Yes I do use different tools. But I bought Paragon Drive Copy v11 with a
money back guarantee. I requested a refund and I never heard back from
them. This happens a lot with me. Acronis is another backup utility that
I paid for and it never worked right either. As Acronis fails on restore
with some USB chipsets (every single version). I don't know about you,
but it gets old paying for software that you can't use. So what's the
word for the opposite of piracy? You know, one when developers sell you
something that you can't use and then run away after they got your
money?


It's called Ripacy.
 




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