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  #76  
Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
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Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m
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  #77  
Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m
  #78  
Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m
  #79  
Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m
  #80  
Old April 27th 04, 01:40 PM
Al Dykes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine, aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m
  #81  
Old April 30th 04, 12:08 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
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Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #82  
Old April 30th 04, 12:24 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #83  
Old April 30th 04, 03:57 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #84  
Old April 30th 04, 03:57 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #85  
Old April 30th 04, 04:00 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #86  
Old April 30th 04, 04:01 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #87  
Old April 30th 04, 07:43 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



  #88  
Old April 30th 04, 07:43 AM
Greg Hayes/Raxco Software
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Perfectdisk Stops Prefetch - Greg Hayes?

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain:174703 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1074021

"If I set PD to let Windows manage the files, then it skips the prefetch
files, but still the folder does not maintain itself. "

Configuring PD to manage or NOT manage the layout files has no impact on
whether Windows still continues to "manage" the contents of the prefetch
folder or what is contained in layout.ini. Windows will still add/remove
files to this folder and update layout.ini as Windows deems appropriate.

If PD is configured to manage the boot files or all of the layout files, all
that is happening is that PD is telling Windows (via registry key) to NOT
perform the partial defrag approx every 3 days. Other than that, pd is
either reading or not reading the contents of layout.ini and taking action
on those files based on how PD is configured - either placing or marking
them as unmovable and leaving them where they currently reside on the
partition.

- Greg/Raxco Software
Microsoft MVP - Windows File System

Disclaimer: I work for Raxco Software, the maker of PerfectDisk - a
commercial defrag utility, as a systems engineer in the support department.

Want to email me? Delete ntloader.


"Al Dykes" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Richard Urban wrote:
I have been using PerfectDisk for about a year now. My prefetch folder is
maintained as it should be. I know this is not much help, but..........

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

"Bill" wrote in message

news

Ok, this is an annoying problem.

I've been trying for three weeks to get Perfectdisk v6 to work with

XP's
prefetching. I've reinstalled Windows XP three times now, and every
single time, XP stops cleaning up the prefetch folder.

Perfectdisk seems to work fine doing its thing, and XP works fine,

aside
from this issue. But no matter what settings I try, they will not work
together to let Windows manage the prefetch files, regardless of the PD
setting.

XP just stops cleaning up the prefetch folder like it should every

three
days. Instead what happens is obsolete files do not get removed, and

the
folder just continues to grow in size. This happens from the moment I
install PD.

I've Googled for info, and I've checked the Registry settings to

confirm
that they are correct, but it still doesn't work. I noticed that PD

does
change the registry back and forth if I change the settings in PD. If I
set PD to manage the files, they get moved by PD as expected. But then
prefetch does not maintain the folder. If I set PD to let Windows

manage
the files, then it skips the prefetch files, but still the folder does
not maintain itself. Note that I have not changed any of the services
and the Task Scheduler is working fine.

I currently have PD installed...I re-installed XP last Monday and XP
still has NOT cleaned up the prefetch folder. I have dozens of PF files
that are obsolete, dated all the way back to when I installed SP1 on
Monday evening at 17:50 hours. Normally XP would have cleaned up the
folder at least twice now.

I've read numerous posts from a Raxco rep named Greg Hayes, and I hope
he reads this, but unfortunately his suggestions do not work. I can't
imagine I've missed a setting, not three times in a row.

I'd really like to get it to work as I like what PD does with the
pagefile, MFT, etc. And it's faster than the XP defrag'er and is easily
scheduled. But unless the prefetch folder is maintained as it is when I
don't install PD, it's not much use to me.

Thanks for any help provided.





I assume you're talking about \WINDOWS\prefetch.

FWIW I never bothered to look at the cache before. I just looked and
it's 3.5MB. Since then it's been a month since I defraged.)

I've used PD on my XP system for over a year, with the defaults. I do
standalone defrag after major software install/reinstall and
a normal one when I've moved a lot of big files around.

This machine is a not-too-speedy midrange laptop that can use all the
help it can get for disk speed. I run really fat software like
OpenOffice. I run _lots_ of different programs on most days.

BTW; I set swap space to a fixed size (Min=Max in control panel, based
on what I know about the applications I run) and then do a standalone
defrag to get it into one segment. That never has to be done again.

IMHO If a disk has lots of free space then anal defraging becomes
less important to a decent achine and average applications.

I'm not sure that actuall buys me anything in practical terms. I open
lots of applications and leave them open, for days. The cache should
only help when starting a program for the first time.




--
Al Dykes
-----------
adykes at p a n i x . c o m



 




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