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Old September 17th 15, 02:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Snuffy \Hub Cap\ McKinney
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run

Thanks buddies!

Snuffy
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Old September 17th 15, 02:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Rene Lamontagne
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On 9/17/2015 8:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run

Thanks buddies!

Snuffy


You might find Start 8 or Classic shell useful to set these things to
your liking, Classic shell is free, Start 8 is about 5 dollars.

Regards, Rene

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Old September 17th 15, 05:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8



"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message
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On 9/17/2015 8:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on
the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the
computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format ---
panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search,
run

Thanks buddies!

Snuffy


You might find Start 8 or Classic shell useful to set these things to your
liking, Classic shell is free, Start 8 is about 5 dollars.


I can certainly recommend Classic Shell for the second one.

For the first, what I do is to create a shortcut to explorer with the
following command line in the "target" field:

%windir%\explorer.exe /e,c:\

The /e gives the expanded view and makes c:\ the default folder which is
displayed in the right hand pane.

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Old September 17th 15, 05:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
knuttle
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On 9/17/2015 9:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run

Thanks buddies!

Snuffy

First upgrade Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 There is a world of difference
between Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Windows 8 is hardly useable, Windows
8.1 is a evolutionary change from Windows XP and 7 and I find very
useable.

Next in the task bar of the Windows 8.1 desktop, right click the
taskbar, Properties, and Navigation. Make sure that The first item in
Start Screen are checked. "When I sign in or closeall
apps.................."

Windows Explorer: Go to the Windows function and search for File
Explorer. Right click on File Explorer in the list of items found, and
pin to the Start Menu and to the Taskbar. Search is an entry found when
you right click the MS Icon on the left end of the Desktop taskbar.
(The standard shutdown options are also there) Now you can access all
files on your computer from the taskbar or start menu, as you could on
previous versions of Windows.

From the Windows 8.1 Start screen or Apps (Down arrow Start Screen) pin
all of the programs you normally use to the Desktop Taskbar. Those you
use occassionally to the start menu.

Lastly. You can access all of the Computer functions by right clicking
on the MS logo on the left side of the Desktop taskbar.

Finally while it is not like Windows 7, I find that with all of the
programs I use pinned to the taskbar, and the Start menu I am quite
comfortable using Windows 8.1. The nice thing about the Windows 8.1
start Screen is that I can see it without my glasses, and I do not have
to fight the horrible collapsing menus that has been a trade mark of
Windows since the beginning.


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Old September 17th 15, 07:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:32:41 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 9:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run


First upgrade Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 There is a world of difference
between Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Windows 8 is hardly useable, Windows
8.1 is a evolutionary change from Windows XP and 7 and I find very
useable.


I find nearly zero difference between 8.0 and 8.1.

Finally while it is not like Windows 7, I find that with all of the
programs I use pinned to the taskbar, and the Start menu I am quite
comfortable using Windows 8.1. The nice thing about the Windows 8.1
start Screen is that I can see it without my glasses, and I do not have
to fight the horrible collapsing menus that has been a trade mark of
Windows since the beginning.


I never had a problem with the "horrible collapsing menus" and haven't heard
reports from others regarding that aspect. That issue could be (mostly)
limited to your setup.

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Old September 17th 15, 07:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:36:12 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 8:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run

Thanks buddies!

Snuffy


You might find Start 8 or Classic shell useful to set these things to
your liking, Classic shell is free, Start 8 is about 5 dollars.



And they are both good, although I like Start8 better.
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Old September 17th 15, 08:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:50:02 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2015-09-17 14:18, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:32:41 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 9:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run


First upgrade Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 There is a world of difference
between Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Windows 8 is hardly useable, Windows
8.1 is a evolutionary change from Windows XP and 7 and I find very
useable.


I find nearly zero difference between 8.0 and 8.1.

Finally while it is not like Windows 7, I find that with all of the
programs I use pinned to the taskbar, and the Start menu I am quite
comfortable using Windows 8.1. The nice thing about the Windows 8.1
start Screen is that I can see it without my glasses, and I do not have
to fight the horrible collapsing menus that has been a trade mark of
Windows since the beginning.


I never had a problem with the "horrible collapsing menus" and haven't heard
reports from others regarding that aspect. That issue could be (mostly)
limited to your setup.


When you mouse to expand a menu but don't click, moving the pointer to a
menu item will often collapse the menu.


I've never seen that unless you accidentally move the mouse pointer to an
adjacent menu branch, even temporarily. Then, yes, of course the menu
collapses, as it should.

Otherwise, I've never seen the menu collapse on its own and haven't heard
anyone else mention it. Are you seeing different behavior?

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Old September 17th 15, 08:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On 9/17/2015 3:36 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-09-17 15:28, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:50:02 -0400, Wolf K wrote:


Otherwise, I've never seen the menu collapse on its own and haven't heard
anyone else mention it. Are you seeing different behavior?


Since I made it a habit to click on each menu/submenu item, there have
been nor more collapses. But it could also a bug fix (Win 8.1.)

Collapsing menus has been my biggest complaint against Windows Starting
with Windows ME ( Before that I was running IBM OS/2 on all of my
computers.) I am currently running Windows 8.1 after trying to use
Windows 10.

The problem has not disappeared over the years and revisions. I spent
about 3 minutes today trying to drag an item to a submenu. You drag to
the first level, then the second, and when you try the third the whole
thing collapses and you start over.

The only way that I could see a person not realizing this, is if they
have become so use to this behavior, they do not realize the problem.


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Old September 17th 15, 09:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On 9/17/2015 2:18 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:32:41 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 9:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run


First upgrade Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 There is a world of difference
between Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Windows 8 is hardly useable, Windows
8.1 is a evolutionary change from Windows XP and 7 and I find very
useable.


I find nearly zero difference between 8.0 and 8.1.


Yeah, the only difference I found after "upgrading" is it now takes my
computer 4 times as long to boot and reboot. Sometimes on reboot it sits
on a black screen for about 2 minutes, and then the desktop icons
refresh twice. And yes, I have the latest video driver.

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Old September 17th 15, 10:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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Default Adding Win 2000 features to Win 8

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:58:44 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 3:36 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-09-17 15:28, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:50:02 -0400, Wolf K wrote:


Otherwise, I've never seen the menu collapse on its own and haven't heard
anyone else mention it. Are you seeing different behavior?


Since I made it a habit to click on each menu/submenu item, there have
been nor more collapses. But it could also a bug fix (Win 8.1.)

Collapsing menus has been my biggest complaint against Windows Starting
with Windows ME ( Before that I was running IBM OS/2 on all of my
computers.) I am currently running Windows 8.1 after trying to use
Windows 10.

The problem has not disappeared over the years and revisions. I spent
about 3 minutes today trying to drag an item to a submenu. You drag to
the first level, then the second, and when you try the third the whole
thing collapses and you start over.

The only way that I could see a person not realizing this, is if they
have become so use to this behavior, they do not realize the problem.


Maybe we should take a poll.

I've *never* seen the cascading menu collapse all on its own, going all the
way back to Win 95 or at least going back as far as I can remember. The only
way I can duplicate what you're reporting is to move the mouse pointer off
of that branch.

I think I suggested this before, but I'm guessing that you're
unintentionally moving the mouse pointer up or down so that it touches an
adjacent menu branch. You may not realize that you're doing it. In other
words, user error and not a design flaw.

By the way, did you know that you can increase the delay (via Registry edit)
so that you can temporarily move off of the current branch without causing a
collapse? That might be a tweak that would help you.

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Old September 17th 15, 10:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:36:26 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2015-09-17 15:28, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:50:02 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2015-09-17 14:18, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:32:41 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 9/17/2015 9:21 AM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote:
Can anyone recommend a way to put the following Win 2000 style links on the Win 8 desktop? I'm having a heck of time finding anything on the computer with Win 8 interface.

1. Win2000 style Windows Explorer that opens in the "old" format --- panel listing drives on the left with folders/files on the right.

2. Win2000 style Start Menu -- with links to programs, settings, search, run


First upgrade Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 There is a world of difference
between Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Windows 8 is hardly useable, Windows
8.1 is a evolutionary change from Windows XP and 7 and I find very
useable.

I find nearly zero difference between 8.0 and 8.1.

Finally while it is not like Windows 7, I find that with all of the
programs I use pinned to the taskbar, and the Start menu I am quite
comfortable using Windows 8.1. The nice thing about the Windows 8.1
start Screen is that I can see it without my glasses, and I do not have
to fight the horrible collapsing menus that has been a trade mark of
Windows since the beginning.

I never had a problem with the "horrible collapsing menus" and haven't heard
reports from others regarding that aspect. That issue could be (mostly)
limited to your setup.

When you mouse to expand a menu but don't click, moving the pointer to a
menu item will often collapse the menu.


I've never seen that unless you accidentally move the mouse pointer to an
adjacent menu branch, even temporarily. Then, yes, of course the menu
collapses, as it should.

Otherwise, I've never seen the menu collapse on its own and haven't heard
anyone else mention it. Are you seeing different behavior?


Since I made it a habit to click on each menu/submenu item, there have
been nor more collapses. But it could also a bug fix (Win 8.1.)


Interstitial clicking (is that a thing?) might help Keith, as well, since it
would force him to stay on the current menu branch, at least during the
click event. In between those intermediate clicks, though, he could still
let the mouse pointer wander away, causing the menu to collapse again.

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Old September 18th 15, 06:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Am 17.09.2015 um 23:08 schrieb Char Jackson:

By the way, did you know that you can increase the delay (via Registry edit)
so that you can temporarily move off of the current branch without causing a
collapse? That might be a tweak that would help you.



Could you please elaborate on this point?
TIA
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Old September 29th 15, 02:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 07:33:44 +0200, Jonas Klein
wrote:

Am 17.09.2015 um 23:08 schrieb Char Jackson:

By the way, did you know that you can increase the delay (via Registry edit)
so that you can temporarily move off of the current branch without causing a
collapse? That might be a tweak that would help you.



Could you please elaborate on this point?
TIA


I was hoping no one would ask. :-) I *think* it's the process described
here, but it's been many years (early XP days) since I did it.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...elay-time.html


 




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