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Old April 6th 20, 03:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Optimist[_3_]
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Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from Android to Windows using a wireless
LAN? And is there a way of uploading text messages apart from emailing each one individually?

Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!
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Old April 6th 20, 03:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Optimist wrote:

Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from Android to Windows using a wireless
LAN? And is there a way of uploading text messages apart from emailing each one individually?


Not sure if anyone is offering pre-built versions of this?

https://github.com/google/samba-documents-provider

Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!


Or just let the phone sync your photos half-way round the world to a
google photos account, and then let the PC copy them back again ...

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Old April 6th 20, 07:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
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On 4/6/2020 10:49 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Optimist wrote:

Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from
Android to Windows using a wireless
LAN?Â* And is there a way of uploading text messages apart from
emailing each one individually?


Not sure if anyone is offering pre-built versions of this?

https://github.com/google/samba-documents-provider

Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!


Or just let the phone sync your photos half-way round the world to a
google photos account, and then let the PC copy them back again ...

I'm not 100% sure I understand. I use an app "Airdroid" which allows me
to exchange pics between my windows computer and android phone, in
either direction.
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Old April 6th 20, 07:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Andy Burns[_6_]
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actodesco wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

let the phone sync your photos half-way round the world to a
google photos account, and then let the PC copy them back again ...


I'm not 100% sure I understand.


Tell the phone to upload each new photos to your google account [you can
restrict it to wifi only if you don't have a generous 4G data allowance]

then, a few seconds after each photo has been taken, it is available to
view or download from https://photos.google.com

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Old April 6th 20, 08:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
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On 4/6/20 2:55 PM, this is what Andy Burns wrote:
actodesco wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

let the phone sync your photos half-way round the world to a google
photos account, and then let the PC copy them back again ...


I'm not 100% sure I understand.


Tell the phone to upload each new photos to your google account [you can
restrict it to wifi only if you don't have a generous 4G data allowance]

then, a few seconds after each photo has been taken, it is available to
view or download from https://photos.google.com

For text messages, I have PushBullet add-on in Firefox, and the app in
Android. It allows me to send and receive (and view) text messages on
my computer, I don't have to touch the phone. As a matter of fact, my
wife went for a drive the other day and I still got the text message
that my prescription was ready at the Px.

Windows 10 supposedly has a app to link your phone but I've never gone
there, I run Linux.

Al
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Old April 6th 20, 08:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Big Al wrote:

For text messages, I have PushBullet add-on in Firefox, and the app in
Android.Â*Â* It allows me to send and receive (and view) text messages on
my computer, I don't have to touch the phone.


If you use Android's standard text message app, that functionality is
built-in, simply visit on your PC

https://messages.google.com/web

It shows a QR code on screen, you scan that on your phone, and then you
can send/receive text messages on the computer.
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Old April 6th 20, 08:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
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In response to what Optimist wrote :

Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from Android
to Windows using a wireless LAN? And is there a way of uploading text
messages apart from emailing each one individually?

Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!


Hi Optimist,

Windows can treat Android over WiFi the same as Windows treats Windows...
o Even down to the command line (& certainly at the file manager GUI level).

To that end, here's a summary snippet from a thread referenced below which may help you:
o *From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/vmWWLzPHKt0/dZJGwHt9AwAJ
=== === begin verbatim summary snippet === ===
The best Windows solution is to mount Android as a drive letter over WiFi:
o WebDAV http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg
o DirectNetDrive http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6340420dir012.jpg
o NetDrive v1.3.2.0 http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1383190dir014.jpg
o webdav http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2373390dir019.jpg
o netdrive http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3994244dir020.jpg
=== === end verbatim summary snippet === ===

Diving into more detail on only the first question you asked in this thread today:
o *Android to Windows*, by Optimist
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.telecom.mobile/Wluxln3nP1w
"Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from
Android to Windows using a wireless LAN? And is there a way of
uploading text messages apart from emailing each one individually?"
Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!"

The permanent Usenet record will clearly show there are _many_ ways to
bidirectionally send/receive photos to/from Android/Windows
(over LAN or USB or ad hoc networks) in our permanent public tribal
knowledge archives:
o http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android
o http://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com

For just one example we recently discussed how to do this over an ad-hoc
encrypted Wi-Fi network, using KDEConnect open source freeware.
o *KDE Connect is a keeper for sending & receiving files over your Wi-Fi LAN*
*to/from any desktop to/from any Android phone!*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/4x1rf1JefW8/vAuFR7ltAQAJ
Where KDE Connect does more than just transfer from/to desktops over WiFI:
o End-to-end TLS encryption
o Send/receive files
o Notification on desktop of SMS texts
o Notification on desktop of incoming phone calls
o Syncing of contacts between phone & desktop
o Shared clipboard, e.g., copy and paste URLs between devices.
o Turns the phone screen into a wi-fi wireless mouse
o Android notifications show up on the desktop
o Control desktop video/audio player from Android
o Controls desktop slideshow next slide/previous slide from Android
o Runs commands remotely
etc.

However, given Android essentially 'mounts' (as a drive letter) on Windows
such that it looks the same as any other Windows drive letter over the LAN,
you can even run Windows commands from Windows on Android (like "copy"),
which, of course, work from the file manager GUI level also (of course).

Here's a thread that shows exactly how I tested that capability years ago.
o *From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/vmWWLzPHKt0/bG6EHd8GBQAJ

Bear in mind that thread contains technical value of import to your question,
but, unfortunately, the dozen proven worthless pieces of **** trolls below
grossly infested that thread such that you can ignore anything & everything
they said (and even ignore everything Paul said) and just concentrate on about
10% of what Frank said, and just read my posts for the added value of that thread).

This thread is literally the PERFECT thread to show how these proven worthless
pieces of **** ruin Usenet for everyone trying to add on-topic technical value.
Don't take my word for it - just read the thread - which proves every statement
by me just now to be a fact.

Literally, _every_ post from these posters _proves_ that they can only subtract
value, which is why they're all easily proven worthless pieces of **** you'll
just have to ignore in that otherwise rather useful technical thread.
o *Ken Blake* [From: Ken Blake ]
o *Wolf K* [From: Wolf K ]
o *Danny DeVito* [From: Danny DeVito ]
o *Char Jackson* [From: Char Jackson ]
o *Rudy Wieser* [From: "R.Wieser" ]
o *Sam Hill* [From: Sam Hill ]
o *joe* [From: joe ]
o *Good Guy* [From: �� Good Guy �� ]
o *Mike S.* [From: Mike S. ]
o *Idaho Homo Joe* [From Idaho Homo Joe ]
o *Knarf Gewtools* (also Knarf Gewtools Slootweg)
o *Diesel* [From: Diesel ]
(Not one of which knows _anything_ about either Android or Windows)
Where, of over 100 posts by 15 authors, only _two_ authors added value:
o Frank Slootweg & me (where 90% of Franks posts were childish & worthless)
(But 100% of the posts from the named trolls were even more worthless)
o Where even Paul posted wholly off-topic pure drivel in that thread.
Where, for example, this one post adds more on-topic value than those many
worthless pieces of **** have ever posted to Usenet in their entire lives):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/vmWWLzPHKt0/MRnbOIp5BQAJ

=== === begin verbatim tiny snippet of on-topic value === ===
================================================== ==========
How to mount Android filesystem as a drive letter on Windows
over WiFi using a free WebDav server on Android

Download and install any desired WebDav server on Android:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver
Read basic documentation:
https://www.webdavsystem.com/server/access/windows/

You can run a WebDAV, FTP, HTTP (or even SMB if you're rooted)
server on Android, which you can then mount on Windows as a drive letter.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg

WebDAV:
0. Make sure your Android device is on the local WiFi network
1. Download a WebDav server on Android
2. Start that WebDav Server on Android
3. A message says: "WebDAV server available on http://192.168.1.6:8080"
Home directory: /storage/emulated/0, password disabled
4. Change WebDav Server: Settings Home Directory = Root (/)
5. On Windows, open a r/w network share using the address:
http://192.168.1.6:8080
6. Or, on Windows, right click on "ThisPC" & select "Map Network Drive"
(Y = \\192.168.1.6@8080\DavWWWRoot\
7. Or, on Windows, in the command line, type:
net use X: \\192.168.1.6@8080\DavWWWRoot\

Any of those commands will mount the root of the Android file system
as a drive letter on Windows, over WiFI so that you can run DOS
commands on that Android file system over WiFi.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg
=== === end verbatim tiny snippet of on-topic value === ===

Bear in mind there is more to that thread than just the LAN solution,
since we also solved the USB solution of mounting Android as a Windows drive,
but you only asked for the LAN (WiFi) solution, one of which is shown above.

For example, this post discussed running Windows commands (such as "copy") over
both USB & WiFi so bidirectionally copy files back & forth
(using either the native file manager of Windows, or the command line, or the
Android file managers, i.e., whatever method you prefer to employ):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/vmWWLzPHKt0/YEtLmkmPBgAJ

Where, again, this is just a tiny snippet of the useful information outlined
in that _one_ post below (which, again, itself, is more value added to this
newsgroup than every post combined by the score of named worthless
pieces of **** who infested that very same thread in droves):
=== === begin small verbatim snippet of on-topic technical value === ===
I seem to be able to run DOS commands on both these types of connections:
o USB + "removable drive" (to get a drive letter)
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1853998dir02.jpg
o WiFi + "network location" + "removable drive" (to get a drive letter)
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6340420dir012.jpg
o WiFi + "network location" + "net use" (to get a drive letter)
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg
... ... stuff removed ... ...
Given:
o USB solutions are faster & generally simpler (no Android software)
MTPDrive: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1853998dir02.jpg
Linux: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181360dir01.jpg
o WiFi solutions (which generally require a "server" running on Android).
WebDav: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg
FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg

For USB:
The best solution is a freeware equivalent to the MTPDrive functionality
o LibMTP freeware may work if we can figure out how to make it work, while
https://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp/files/libmtp-win32/
o MTPDrive crippleware works (crippled to 30 files per session), and,
http://www.mtpdrive.com/download.html
o Dual booting to Linux works (which natively uses, apparently, LibMTP).
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181360dir01.jpg

For WiFi:
If a server must be run on Android, Windows probably handles SMB best, but:
o SMB server (on Android) solutions are problematic for two reasons:
(a) No known Play/F-Droid SMB server works on TCP port 445 unrooted
(b) Port forwarding on Windows is required if a nonroot server is found.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icecoldapps.sambaserver

Where these general-use servers don't require rooting or port forwarding,
& where Windows "network location" & "removable drive" features are used:
o WebDav
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver
network location: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg
o FTP
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.ftpserver
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7075400dir07.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4731516dir011.jpg

For WiFi FTP, these are possible universal free drive-mapping solutions:
o FTPuse (freeware which I was not successful with in my recent tests)
https://www.ferrobackup.com/map-ftp-as-disk.html
FTP Server (free): http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg
The Olive Tree: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7355568dir09.jpg
Anonymous: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4223201dir010.jpg
o DirectNet (freeware which I was successful with in my tests today)
http://www.directnet-drive.net/
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4731516dir011.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6340420dir012.jpg
o SFTP Net Drive (free for personal use but I was not successful today)
https://www.nsoftware.com/sftp/netdrive/ (it took a bogus name & email)
o NetDrive (trialware, untested because it's not a general solution)
http://netdrive.net/
o Web Drive (trialware, untested because it's not a general solution)
https://webdrive.com/download/

And where Linux solutions may work under some circumstances:
o Dual-boot to Linux works perfectly (which uses LibMTP natively)
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/oOfdMLmJ-oQ/jh_1DwTOBgAJ
o Termux (contains a mini Linux command environment)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux
... ... stuff removed ... ...
=== === end small verbatim snippet of on-topic technical value === ===

Notice the permanent Usenet record shows that in the referenced thread
Frank and I were able to add unique tested & validated on-topic technical value,
(and Paul added worthless drivel, but he was responding to the drivel),
but that the rather valuable on-topic technical topic value was absolutely
swamped by the dozen worthless pieces of **** listed above who infested
that thread simply because they appear to _hate_ that they, themselves,
have never once in their entire lives added any on-topic technical value
to any thread - and certainly not to that thread.

If ever an adult needs to see how these dozen named worthless pieces of ****
_hate_ that they can't ever add value to any technical topic, this thread
in our permanent archives is all any adult needs to view to realize how these
dozen proven worthless pieces of **** are the type that ruin Usenet for everyone.

Luckily, the answer, if you wade through it, to your first question,
is in that thread, which we posted years ago (in advance of your question).

Hope this helps, where if you detect a sense of disgust in my voice
for the dozen proven worthless pieces of ****, it's because those proven
worthless pieces of **** are who ruin the value of Usenet for everyone.
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Old April 6th 20, 09:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Big Al[_5_]
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On 4/6/20 3:34 PM, this is what Andy Burns wrote:
Big Al wrote:

For text messages, I have PushBullet add-on in Firefox, and the app in
Android.Â*Â* It allows me to send and receive (and view) text messages
on my computer, I don't have to touch the phone.


If you use Android's standard text message app, that functionality is
built-in, simply visit on your PC

https://messages.google.com/web

It shows a QR code on screen, you scan that on your phone, and then you
can send/receive text messages on the computer.


I'll try.

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Old April 7th 20, 12:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
😉 Good Guy 😉
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On 06/04/2020 15:32, Optimist wrote:
Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from Android to Windows using a wireless
LAN? And is there a way of uploading text messages apart from emailing each one individually?

Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!


What's wrong with using "Google Cloud" or "Google Drive" or for that
matter "OneDrive"?

We are in the 21st century and so there are many ways of doing things
but nutters here are so stupid that they won't use anything provided by
Microsoft or Google or Amazon.Â* Why ther are still using their operating
system is beyond anybody's wildest imagination.

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Old April 7th 20, 09:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Arlen Holder[_7_]
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Default Android to Windows

In response to what Andy Burns wrote :

Tell the phone to upload each new photos to your google account [you can
restrict it to wifi only if you don't have a generous 4G data allowance]

then, a few seconds after each photo has been taken, it is available to
view or download from https://photos.google.com


Personally, IMHO, it seems, the less people know, the more they fall prey
to marketing persuading them to use the cloud to put your personal data,
just to copy a file between one room and another in your own house!
o *Do people of reasonable technical ability store their private data on*
*the Internet (if so, for what gain?)*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/mBIZ-8jGdmk/aLDJkSJQAAAJ

To help others avoid having to use the Internet just to copy a personal
file from their Android phone to or from a desktop (Mac, Linux, or
Windows), here's my tutorial where I just now again tested installing KDE
Connect on a brand new Windows 10 Pro (version 1909) installation.
o *KDE Connect is a keeper for sending & receiving files over your Wi-Fi*
*LAN to/from any desktop to/from any Android phone!*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/4x1rf1JefW8

These two installation packages worked fine for me just now in my tests:
o *Windows*: https://download.kde.org/unstable/kdeconnect/1.1/bin/windows/
https://i.postimg.cc/65fLFGVm/kde02.jpg
o *Android*: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdeconnect_tp
https://i.postimg.cc/X7fQ3PWx/kde01.jpg

I re-installed Windows 10 Pro due to crashes explained in this thread:
o *Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?*
https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem

Hence I again tested KDEConnect setup from scratch:
o Where one method worked, and yet, two other tested methods failed.
https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect#What_is_KDE_Connect.3F

What worked on Windows today was...
a. I downloaded KDEConnect to Windows 10 Pro (my version is 1909) from:
https://download.kde.org/unstable/kdeconnect/1.1/bin/windows/
b. This resulted in the following file:
Name: kdeconnect-kde-1.1-x64-setup.exe
Size: 48096793 bytes (45 MiB)
SHA256: 61E6537322F05F52F52B625B8C24F653280BFA664E9F784770 BD6A039AD7C15A
c. I doubleclicked on that file & up popped: "KDE Connect master-937d919"
"Welcome to KDE Connect Setup"
d. It wanted to install into: "C:\Program Files\KDE Connect"
e. I installed to: "C:\app\network\kdeconnect"
f. Where it automatically installed MS Visual C++ as part of the setup.
"Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable (x64) 14.0.24210"
g. It put the KDE Connect shortcut in:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\KDE Connect.lnk
TARGET: C:\app\network\kdeconnect\bin\kdeconnect-indicator.exe
START IN: C:\app\network\kdeconnect
h. This automatically started the KDEConnect server on Windows 10 Pro.

What worked on Android was...
A. I installed the Google Play version of KDE Connect client via Aurora
(because I do not even have a Google Account on my phone)
(and because it was a 50:50 crap shoot of Google Play versus F-Droid)
B. That installed KDE Connect, by KDE Community
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdeconnect_tp
C. Which, after multiple permission requests, showed a "Send files" button
which sent files from Android to the PC users' "Downloads" directory:
C:\Users\{username}\Downloads\file_from_android.jp g

WHAT FAILED.
This KDEConnect failed to work on that same Windows PC:
https://binary-factory.kde.org/view/Windows%2064-bit/job/kdeconnect-kde_Nightly_win64/

This also failed to work on that same Windows machine:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/dnh1wq/test_release_01_kde_connect_for_windows/
o Which pointed to this GitHub location for the KDE Connect desktop:
https://github.com/taskmaster9001/kdeconnect-kde/releases/tag/v0.1.0
o Which specifically pointed to this executable:
https://github.com/taskmaster9001/kdeconnect-kde/releases/download/v0.1.0/KDE.Connect.for.Windows.exe

In summary, this worked on my latest Windows 10 Pro installation:
o *Windows* https://download.kde.org/unstable/kdeconnect/1.1/bin/windows/
https://i.postimg.cc/65fLFGVm/kde02.jpg
o *Android* https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdeconnect_tp
https://i.postimg.cc/X7fQ3PWx/kde01.jpg
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Old April 7th 20, 01:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
AnthonyL
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:32:17 +0100, Optimist
wrote:

Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from Android to Windows using a wireless
LAN? And is there a way of uploading text messages apart from emailing each one individually?

Anyone would think we are not in the 21st century!


My Android connects over the LAN to my Windows and Linux machines
using Total Commander and its SMB/Samba add-on. You do need to know
the IP of each machine when setting the links up. There are Android
tools however to ping every IP on the LAN if you look around.

I did have an Android file manager that automatically saw the LAN,
might have been by AsusTek but I must have ended up preferring
TotalCommander.


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Old April 7th 20, 03:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Arlen Holder[_7_]
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In response to what AnthonyL wrote :

My Android connects over the LAN to my Windows and Linux machines
using Total Commander and its SMB/Samba add-on. You do need to know
the IP of each machine when setting the links up. There are Android
tools however to ping every IP on the LAN if you look around.


One caveat we learned the hard way on SMB between Windows & Android
o About port 445

If you're not rooted, then you can only run the SMB client on Android.
o If you're rooted, then you can run a SMB server on Android.

The reason is that Android requires root to use ports below 1024;
o Windows requires SMB communications using TCP ports below 1024.

See workarounds in http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android archives:
o What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to something higher than 1024 on Windows?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI/p7yqvwHrBQAJ
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Old April 7th 20, 04:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,uk.telecom.mobile
Peter Johnson[_2_]
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:32:17 +0100, Optimist
wrote:

Why is it that Windows does not allow pictures to be upload from Android to Windows using a wireless
LAN? And is there a way of uploading text messages apart from emailing each one individually?

I use a Microsoft App that allows me to copy pictures from my Samsung
Android phone to my PC, which it does by WiFi. I think its use is
limited to certain Samsung models at the moment. It also allows me to
read incoming text messages while the phone is sat on its charger and
without me having to get up from the PC.
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Old April 11th 20, 02:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android
kelown
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*SMB/CIFs*
In summary, Android to Windows has so many solutions, IMHO, it's hard to
choose, where we would "think" (and hope!) SMB/CIFs would be the number one
choice, if it weren't for the Android SMB port & Android SMB client issues.

I'm confident the brains on the Windows newsgroup _can_ overcome those SMB
problems, but, to date, I haven't been apprised of a viable solution.


I don't see where you've explained an issue with SMB. My experience
shows SMBv2 works flawlessly between Android-PC. Of course you should
know that Windows 10 no longer supports SMBv1. Maybe that's what you
were trying to use.
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Old April 11th 20, 03:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android
Arlen Holder[_7_]
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In response to what kelown wrote :

I don't see where you've explained an issue with SMB. My experience
shows SMBv2 works flawlessly between Android-PC. Of course you should
know that Windows 10 no longer supports SMBv1. Maybe that's what you
were trying to use.


Hi kelown,

Yours is a good question, a very good question, where I'm not really the
right technical person to answer your questions in an up-to-date way.

Plus, I create only general-purpose solutions, where, as I noted, the FTP
freeware and SMB freeware differ from the payware; so all my comments are
about the freeware since I strive to form solutions that work for everyone.

I gave up on SMB/CIFs/Samba freeware as a solution when WebDAV worked
better for me, but we can always re-visit the SMB technical solutions,
because, as I said earlier, SMB solutions _should_ work best because...
a. Windows is native SMB
b. Linux handles Samba fantastically well

However, since you asked & since I strive to always be purposefully helpful
(except when unilaterally attacked by worthless pieces of ****), here's my
summary of the problems I personally encountered when I last tested SMB
(servers & clients) on Android with Windows 10 Pro (which has a native SMB
server, AFAIK) years ago when those reference SMB threads were authored.

The caveat with my explanation is that folks like Paul know the Windows
side far better than I do, and folks like Frank Slootweg know the Android
side much better than I do.
o So if they respond to your query, defer to their knowledge; not to mine.

However, since you asked, here's a summary as I understood it years ago:

*Freeware Android SMB servers*:
On non-rooted Android, there seems to be a catch-22 of:
o Windows will only accept SMB TCP connections on port 445
o Android won't allow SMB servers to use ports lower than 1024
REFERENCE:
o *What's the best way to forward SMB TCP port 445 to above 1024 on Windows?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI/p7yqvwHrBQAJ

*Freeware Android SMB clients*:
Again, the catch-22 seems to be the mismatch with Windows, in that, the SMB
freeware clients weren't (apparently) keeping up with security.
o Last we checked (Jan 2019), SMB client freeware wasn't at SMBv2 or SMBv3.
o Windows can enable SMBv1; but we know SMBv1 is fatally compromised.
REFERENCE:
o *Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw/yBV1yLArCAAJ

Note that this is all a matter of the public record which wasn't disputed
at the time it was last posted (to my knowledge) to this ng:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/3QQ8bAZeXNI/T-0FV7spCAAJ

But perhaps things changed (improved?) on the Android freeware SMB clients?
o If so, I'm all ears as I _love_ solutions to technical problems!

Particularly since I haven't touched SMB since I gave up on it in favor of
WebDAV, which works great - but SMB 'should' work even better given that
it's native on Windows.
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