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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:05:18 +0100, Bob Henson
wrote: Equally interesting (to me, anyway) is the letter "thorn" in old English. The old runic letter came to be written as "Y" - so "ye old inn" was actually pronounced "the old inn" at the time, and eventually came to be written as the digraph that we know now. Yes, I always pronounce that "ye" as "the." Probably 99% of those who name their stores like that think I'm wrong and it should be "ye." They don't realize it's a thorn, not a "y." Come to think of it, most of them probably don't realize there ever was a thorn. |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:59:39 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
It's strange that there are cases when more than one person can hear the noise supposedly comming from a sufferer's inside brain. Sound waves have long ranges, as we can listen to radio music comming from long distances. Nobody but me has ever heard my tinnitus. What you are talking about is external noise...which is just *not* the same thing. Yesterday I was sitting around listening to my tinnitus (no excuse!) and had the idle thought that what I wrote above is kind of insufficient. I should have pointed out that tinnitus is *not* actual sound, it's a perception in the subject's mind caused by nerves that are firing without outside input, i.e., sending spurious signals. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:12:01 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:11 +0100, Bob Henson wrote: On 24/10/2014 9:13 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: But if you include "y" as a semi-vowel, you should also include "w." So it should be "facetiouslwy," but as far as I know. there's no such word. g There probably is in Welsh - it's a strange language produced largely by taking the vowels out of English words and replacing them with "Y"s. :-) My favourite place name in Wales is Ynysybyl - where all four "y"s are pronounced differentlwy. Something like "Unissable. As I said earlier, the word "vowel" really refers to a sound, not a letter. And as I said a bit after that, my dictionary disagrees with you. As do I. So Welsh doesn't take out vowels, it just sometimes uses different letters to represent them. Yes, "y" is common, but so is "w." My favorite word is "crwth," pronounced "crooth." And by the way, our name for that letter--double-you--more accurately describes its sound in Welsh than in English. Of course many languages use glyphs other than English letters to represent them; a few examples are Russian, Greek, Arabic, and Hebrew. So Welsh really isn't strange or unusual in that regard. As far as I'm concerned, what's strange about Welsh is that it uses the same letters we do, but some of them are pronounced very differently. Many languages use the same alphabet (or at least the same letters) we do to represent different sounds than we do. At least some letters, sometimes many, represent different sounds than the English letters, including sounds not found in English (even ignoring the added diacritics)... Just a few examples: junta or zarzuela in (Castilian) Spanish, peur in French, Somogy and csardas in Hungarian (both a's have long marks, which look like French acute accents). The Spanish 'j', the French 'eu', and the Hungarian 'gy' represent non-English sounds. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:29:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:12:01 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:11 +0100, Bob Henson wrote: On 24/10/2014 9:13 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: But if you include "y" as a semi-vowel, you should also include "w." So it should be "facetiouslwy," but as far as I know. there's no such word. g There probably is in Welsh - it's a strange language produced largely by taking the vowels out of English words and replacing them with "Y"s. :-) My favourite place name in Wales is Ynysybyl - where all four "y"s are pronounced differentlwy. Something like "Unissable. As I said earlier, the word "vowel" really refers to a sound, not a letter. And as I said a bit after that, my dictionary disagrees with you. As do I. Sorry, I missed that. But I knew someone would disagree. However that's my view, and I'm sticking with it! g |
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Bob Henson wrote:
On 23/10/2014 8:05 AM, ...winston‫ wrote: Unfortunately, now when ever I see a g-string my ears ring and stand to attention! g It's not usually the ears that stand to attention when most men see a g-string. Still - whatever floats your boat :-))) I went out earlier today. Saw and played with a dozen different g-strings. The painted lady employee was very helpful eventually providing me, from her perspective, some well-heeled advice - blow up my tv and throw away my pc. Nothing I saw or touched was worth parting with a few George Washington's. Apparently I'll have to visit a few other guitar shops before something stands out worthy of my standards. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:58:16 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 14:29:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 08:12:01 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:11 +0100, Bob Henson wrote: On 24/10/2014 9:13 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: But if you include "y" as a semi-vowel, you should also include "w." So it should be "facetiouslwy," but as far as I know. there's no such word. g There probably is in Welsh - it's a strange language produced largely by taking the vowels out of English words and replacing them with "Y"s. :-) My favourite place name in Wales is Ynysybyl - where all four "y"s are pronounced differentlwy. Something like "Unissable. As I said earlier, the word "vowel" really refers to a sound, not a letter. And as I said a bit after that, my dictionary disagrees with you. As do I. Sorry, I missed that. But I knew someone would disagree. However that's my view, and I'm sticking with it! g Put up your dukes! Obviously we're both right :-) Later I looked in three other dictionaries. All said exactly what I quoted from mine, except that one of them added 'w' to the list, right next to 'y'. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 01:01:27 +0100, John wrote:
A couple of years ago, a niece turned up at my front door. She was taller than me and quite woman-shaped. I gave her the blank-but-friendly stare of a man wishing to know her purpose. She gave me her name. More blank looks. Then she offered her relationship to me. That worked. My problem was that the last time I had ever seen her was when she weighed about a kilo and was about the size of a fist. She had changed somewhat in the intervening years. Not so long ago (I thought), I also saw a young lady of my acquaintance when she massed about a kilo. Next year she'll be going to college. I have the advantage over you that her parents are part of my social circle, so the changes have been too gradual to notice except on those occasions when one stops to reflect. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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