Windows XP still has more users than Window 8.0/8.1

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare’s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 06:48:56 -0500, Kirk Bubul wrote:

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users that
8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...ows-xp-almost-
ago-still-014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and 8.1
had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market share of
48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One year later,
NetMarketShareÂ’s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and 8.1 now have a
combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a market share of 58% and XP
has a market share of 16.9%.

The vast majority of users do not upgrade their operating system, I
wouldn't upgrade from windows 7 and only switched to that because I bought
a new machine with it pre-installed. So the numbers shown probably simply
reflect purchasing patterns.

On 02/04/2015 15:42, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-04-02 7:48 AM, Kirk Bubul wrote:
An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html


And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare’s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.

Global figures like this aren't much use. Promote speculation, eg, I
infer that many people switching XP---Win8, likely one major reason
is no XP drivers for new hardware. A more nuanced analysis would be,
um, instructive.


i just switched from xp to 8.1 weeks ago

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 06:48:56 -0500, Kirk Bubul
wrote:

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare?s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.


?? Market share and number of users are two different things.

JiiPee wrote in :

Wolf K wrote:
Kirk Bubul wrote:

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare’s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.

Global figures like this aren't much use. Promote speculation, eg, I
infer that many people switching XP---Win8, likely one major reason
is no XP drivers for new hardware. A more nuanced analysis would be,
um, instructive.

i just switched from xp to 8.1 weeks ago

Obviously tipping the balance.

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:26:45 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:54:12 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 06:48:56 -0500, Kirk Bubul
wrote:

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare?s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.


?? Market share and number of users are two different things.

Ken, I do not understand the point you are trying to make, would you please
elaborate?


"Market share" has to do with the number sold, not with the number
being used.

So, for example, if 3,000 Fords are sold and 1,000 Chevrolets are
sold, Ford has 75% of the market share. But if there are another 2,000
Fords being driven (a total of 5,000) and another 14,000 Chevrolets
are being driven (a total of 15,000) Chevrolet has 75% of the number
of users.

On 02/04/2015 18:55, John Doe wrote:
JiiPee wrote in :

Wolf K wrote:
uctive.
i just switched from xp to 8.1 weeks ago
Obviously tipping the balance.

heh

"Stormin' Norman" escreveu na mensagem
...

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:57:43 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:26:45 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:54:12 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 06:48:56 -0500, Kirk Bubul
wrote:

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare?s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.


?? Market share and number of users are two different things.

Ken, I do not understand the point you are trying to make, would you
please
elaborate?


"Market share" has to do with the number sold, not with the number
being used.

So, for example, if 3,000 Fords are sold and 1,000 Chevrolets are
sold, Ford has 75% of the market share. But if there are another 2,000
Fords being driven (a total of 5,000) and another 14,000 Chevrolets
are being driven (a total of 15,000) Chevrolet has 75% of the number
of users.

In this case, your assertion might not apply.

If you read the collection methodology employed by NetMarketShare, it would
appear they are basing the reported statistics on actual usage as collected
from
visits to numerous websites. See:

http://www.netmarketshare.com/faq.aspx#Methodology

Admittedly, this does not account for machines which are not used on the
web or
that do not access any of the 40,000 web sites they poll for data.

Here local stores don't sell Windows XP anymore.

On 02/04/2015 12:48, Kirk Bubul wrote:
An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:



And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare's numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.
People still using Windows XP are simply not interested in increasing
the productivity of their staff. For example, Office 2013 has some
really good new functions that can simplify and speed-up the
calculations but people still using XP can't use Office 2013 so their
only option is to continue using Office 2010, 2007 or Office 2003.
These people are simply not interested in progress.

I use Windows 8.1 and Office 2013 and my entire staff in my department
have been given the the new OS and new office product. They are really
excited about new products and the attendance have improved; the quality
of their print jobs have also improved. That is progress IMHO.

Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:57:43 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 17:26:45 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:54:12 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 06:48:56 -0500, Kirk Bubul
wrote:

An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:


https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare?s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.


?? Market share and number of users are two different things.

Ken, I do not understand the point you are trying to make, would
you please elaborate?


"Market share" has to do with the number sold, not with the number
being used.

So, for example, if 3,000 Fords are sold and 1,000 Chevrolets are
sold, Ford has 75% of the market share. But if there are another
2,000 Fords being driven (a total of 5,000) and another 14,000
Chevrolets are being driven (a total of 15,000) Chevrolet has 75% of
the number of users.

In this case, your assertion might not apply.

If you read the collection methodology employed by NetMarketShare, it
would appear they are basing the reported statistics on actual usage
as collected from visits to numerous websites. See:

http://www.netmarketshare.com/faq.aspx#Methodology

Admittedly, this does not account for machines which are not used on
the web or that do not access any of the 40,000 web sites they poll
for data.

Thanks for posting the link. There are so many flaws in their approach that
I'd think their "market share data" is pretty much useless. One of the first
prerequisites for any statistical sampling model intended to reflect trends
in a general population is that the sample has to be a valid subset of the
general population. Since they fail to establish any basis for that in their
model, there is no need to go further. But, it gets worse if one does read
further.

--
best regards,

Neil

On 4/2/2015 4:56 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:

IMHO, Windows 8/8.1 is a turd in the punchbowl. As a business user I will be
curious to see if Windows 10 is more appealing.

IMHO, Windows 8.x is similar to the popularity of Win 3.1, Win95, and
Vista. Each of those altered the way that one worked previously, and
also were precursors to the next generations of Windows. In other words,
I don't expect any big operational changes between 8.x and 10.

--
best regards,

Neil

Kirk Bubul wrote:
An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare’s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.

Read between the lines...where do you think the XP primary usage is and
has been for the last two years ?
- China and the Pacific Rim (coincidentally similar to where the
majority of pirated XP versions are in use)

XP hasn't been sold for quite some time in the retail or OEM market thus
new XP sales wouldn't be part of the data study. Where did they come
from...see above.
--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Stormin' Norman wrote:


Mark Twain said: "There are three kinds of lies; lies, damned lies and
statistics."

I agreed with Mark when he said it to my face and I still agree with him.



Mark Twain died in 1910...If you were one year old at the time he said
it to you, you'd be 104-105 today. It's amazing you can still remember
what he said to your face.

But then again, Mark might be right about lies. g

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

"Kirk Bubul" escreveu na mensagem
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An interesting article about how Windows XP still has more users
that 8.0/8.1:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/microso...014540792.html

And excerpt:

According to NetMarketShare, at this time last year Windows 8 and
8.1 had a combined market share of 11.3%, Windows 7 had a market
share of 48.8% and Windows XP had a market share of 27.5%. One
year later, NetMarketShare’s numbers inform us that Windows 8 and
8.1 now have a combined market share of 14%, Windows 7 has a
market share of 58% and XP has a market share of 16.9%.


The following is the worldwide device shipments (referring to wholesale) by
operating system, which includes smartphones, tablets, laptops and PCs
together.

Year/Android/iOS.OSX/Windows/Others
2014/48.61%/11.04%/14.00%/26.34%
2013/38.51%/10.12%/13.98%/37.41%
2012/22.80%/ 9.60%/15.62%/51.98%

Tablet computers, or simply tablets, became a significant OS market share
category starting with Apple's iOS-based iPad. There have been 200 million
iPads sold as of June 2014, compared to 174 million Android and 5 million
Microsoft based tablets, with others systems under half a million as of
March 2014.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_s...rating_systems

Maybe 10% of world population has a tablet.

"...winston?" expressed precisely :
Stormin' Norman wrote:


Mark Twain said: "There are three kinds of lies; lies, damned lies and
statistics."

I agreed with Mark when he said it to my face and I still agree with him.



Mark Twain died in 1910...If you were one year old at the time he said it to
you, you'd be 104-105 today. It's amazing you can still remember what he
said to your face.

But then again, Mark might be right about lies. g

No one can get the puck past you Winnie......... geez.

I suspect Stormin' Norman was being facetious, his comment made me
chuckle.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/facetious