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Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/18/15 6:01 PM, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Sadly, I don't believe most people want quality, in software or anything else. It's free they are interested in. I completely lost my Mint installation yesterday. The foreseeable future will *not* be Linux... Five years will pass, and nothing will have changed. ******* When you can put your effort into SystemD and PulseAudio, when you could be working on user centric things, that's a sign of doom. PulseAudio broke packages that never got fixed, and ruined music listening for a generation of users (I read the complaints). And SystemD is just wasting man-hours that could have been put into something else. Linux has done some good things, like improving some aspects of web cams, such that now the odds are higher of getting them working. That's an example of user centric. But lots of other stuff is just developer egos, the output of which needs to be cleaned up and made usable again by an army of distro people. So much effort, just ****ed away. Still waiting for someone to fix my TVTime application, so I can watch TV with as much ease as I can in Windows. In Windows, I use DScaler, which works a treat and uses very little CPU. And the sound works. And the sound works without me blowing a gasket trying to get it working. TVTime no longer works because of PulseAudio. Paul |
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On 5/19/2015 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote:
Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? MS software is not the issue... it's software that runs on Windows OS. When it comes to quality software, the only practical choices for most serious users is either Windows or Mac. The market percentages tell the story. -- best regards, Neil |
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On 5/19/15 9:37 AM, Paul wrote:
But lots of other stuff is just developer egos, I'd have to agree, even with my limited exposure to open source software. That exposure is limited to cross platform offerings, such as Libre Office. I liked that suite, until I was told my bug submissions were not important. That was the end, although I do keep a current copy on my Mac. But for the occasional Windows systems I rebuild and donate, I currently install WPS Office, formerly Kingsoft Office. When I was using LO, I followed their mailing list. There was a big push by some to really push LO as a direct replacement for MS Office. I posted they needed to fix the bugs first, and then offer a product that was superior to MS Office, not just equal to. That didn't go over well. There's a lot of good people involved with open source software, of that I'm positive. It's those with the egos and wanting "my way or no way" that stops the projects. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote:
On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. -- Slimer Encrypt. |
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On 2015-05-19 11:43 AM, Neil wrote:
On 5/19/2015 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? MS software is not the issue... it's software that runs on Windows OS. When it comes to quality software, the only practical choices for most serious users is either Windows or Mac. The market percentages tell the story. Wake me up when decent software appears on Linux. I don't expect to be up before my 60th birthday (I'm 36). -- Slimer Encrypt. |
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On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) |
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On 5/19/2015 12:27 PM, Disguised wrote:
On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) Oats are expensive, but after going through the horse they are quite cheap..... Rene |
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On 19-May-2015 13:53, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 5/19/2015 12:27 PM, Disguised wrote: On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) Oats are expensive, but after going through the horse they are quite cheap..... Rene Useless statement but if LibreOffice is such a piece of **** then why is it so popular. |
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On 5/19/2015 1:18 PM, Disguised wrote:
On 19-May-2015 13:53, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 5/19/2015 12:27 PM, Disguised wrote: On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) Snip Oats are expensive, but after going through the horse they are quite cheap..... Rene Useless statement but if LibreOffice is such a piece of **** then why is it so popular. Because it is cheap. Rene |
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On 5/19/2015 1:27 PM, Disguised wrote:
On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) You may have heard the old saying... "If you're lucky, you get what you paid for, but you can be certain that you won't get what you don't pay for." -- best regards, Neil |
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On 2015-05-19 1:27 PM, Disguised wrote:
On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) One capable, the other worthless. Can you tell which is which? -- Slimer Encrypt. |
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On 2015-05-19 2:18 PM, Disguised wrote:
On 19-May-2015 13:53, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 5/19/2015 12:27 PM, Disguised wrote: On 19-May-2015 13:16, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-19 11:07 AM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 20:01, Slimer wrote: On 2015-05-18 3:05 PM, Disguised wrote: On 18-May-2015 15:00, . . .winston wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: I have avoided the Microsoft Store, but do accept updates of Windows 8.1. I don't knowingly save any thing online at Microsoft or other online sites. I recently bought a new Windows 8.1 computer, and set it up as required by Microsoft. I discovered that the wallpaper from my only other Windows 8.1, appeared on my new computer. Also Solitaire and Mahjong which I got from the Microsoft store appeared on my new computer. So far this was troubling but not a significant problem. I went to the church for a meeting and discovered that I did not have to put the security code for the Church LAN into the new computer. This was troubling, as, if Microsoft has all of the LAN security codes/passwords of the LANs I have accessed, what else have they downloaded from my computer with out my knowledge. How can I remove these security codes/passwords from the Microsoft sites. What other passwords and such have they taken from my computer. I transferred the profile form Thunderbird and Firefox so it was expected they were on the new computer, But would I have had to transfer it or does Microsoft take this information also. If this is happening with all Windows 8.1 computers and above it is no wonder that companies are refusing to update to Windows 8/8.1 It's not as collective as some other's have presented. The Desktop settings are due to having configured or accepted Win 8.1's user settings Sync. The password entry is do to your browser (IE or 3rd party) having been configured to remember passwords. Both can be disabled. Solitaire on Windows 8.1 **is** a Microsoft Store app. It requires a MSFT account. The presence and/or use of a Microsoft account does not preclude one's ability to disabled the Sync for user Settings. When user Settings are configured to Sync, the data is stored on that same MSFT Account OneDrive, thus when synced, use of that same MSFT account on other devices will sync the same settings. See this article on how to enable/disable Sync for User Settings. It has two sections - one to choose which settings sync and the other to stop syncing all settings. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-settings-pcs If you stop syncing user settings and desire to remove content, then logon to OneDrive (onedrive.com) and delete any appropriate, if still present' folders. I wouldn't be too hasty deleting that MSFT account as other's have recommended. It's entirely likely in the foreseeable future, especially if you upgrade to Windows 10 that a MSFT account will be necessary to upgrade and in the foreseeable future receive updates via Windows Update. ...and in the foreseeable future maybe use Linux. :-) People want quality software. Linux doesn't offer such a thing. Do you really call Msft Windows quality software??? You must be living in another world. Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice. Enough said. One very expensive and the other free. Enough said. :-) Oats are expensive, but after going through the horse they are quite cheap..... Rene Useless statement but if LibreOffice is such a piece of **** then why is it so popular. Because it's free and not everyone wants to pay 130$ to produce texts in a word processor. -- Slimer Encrypt. |
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On 5/19/2015 7:02 PM, Slimer wrote:
One capable, the other worthless. Can you tell which is which? I was setting up my new Windows 8.1 tablet, and did not have WordPerfect installed yet, and need a word processor. To my surprise the DOS? wordprocessor MS Wordpad is include in the basic program provided with Windows 8/8.1. I only used it a little but seems a useful and up to date word processor. So you don't have to go with MS Word, or Libre, but can use WordPerfect or Wordpad. |
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On 5/19/2015 7:17 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/19/2015 7:02 PM, Slimer wrote: One capable, the other worthless. Can you tell which is which? I was setting up my new Windows 8.1 tablet, and did not have WordPerfect installed yet, and need a word processor. To my surprise the DOS? wordprocessor MS Wordpad is include in the basic program provided with Windows 8/8.1. I only used it a little but seems a useful and up to date word processor. So you don't have to go with MS Word, or Libre, but can use WordPerfect or Wordpad. ? Wordpad is a pretty basic app. If what one needs to write is within the capabilities of WordPad, any real word processor would be serious overkill. -- best regards, Neil |
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On Tue, 19 May 2015 19:17:53 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 5/19/2015 7:02 PM, Slimer wrote: One capable, the other worthless. Can you tell which is which? I was setting up my new Windows 8.1 tablet, and did not have WordPerfect installed yet, and need a word processor. To my surprise the DOS? wordprocessor MS Wordpad is include in the basic program provided with Windows 8/8.1. I only used it a little but seems a useful and up to date word processor. So you don't have to go with MS Word, or Libre, but can use WordPerfect or Wordpad. We have *very* different opinions on this. As far as I'm concerned, WordPad is not a real word processor, but is little more than a text editor. But WordPerfect is far and away the best word processor available, much better than Microsoft Office. |
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